CL Final

[blues2win]

Anyone see how Julian Ryerson played? Supposed to be a really solid right back who can go forward too.

[stupot]

^^^,

Well Mase , if it is a throwaway comment , why make it ? Throw it away Ayrshireblue made a good point . That had no relevance to city.why bring us into it all.

A game that in all fairness would be just another mid table PL game.
Shocking ball control throughout and one team gets lucky.

The record books will show we conceded 4 goals to that shower of shite. You can spin it however you like, we lost because we weren't good enough over the two legs, being the better team doesn't mean jack if you can't get the job done. Pep and the players have to take full responsibility for their shortcomings.

We lost because we couldn't score 4 more penalties when we were 1 up.
The record books will show we scored 4 goals against the CL Winners, 4 good goals not a couple of freak deflections.
Never mind, only 1 more year of the bald fraud then we can get somebody decent in

[Mase]

^^^,

Well Mase , if it is a throwaway comment , why make it ? Throw it away Ayrshireblue made a good point . That had no relevance to city.why bring us into it all.

A game that in all fairness would be just another mid table PL game.
Shocking ball control throughout and one team gets lucky.

The record books will show we conceded 4 goals to that shower of shite. You can spin it however you like, we lost because we weren't good enough over the two legs, being the better team doesn't mean jack if you can't get the job done. Pep and the players have to take full responsibility for their shortcomings.

We lost because we couldn't score 4 more penalties when we were 1 up.
The record books will show we scored 4 goals against the CL Winners, 4 good goals not a couple of freak deflections.
Never mind, only 1 more year of the bald fraud then we can get somebody decent in

You forgot the “maybe we’ll get Fat Sam” bit.

[PeterParker]

I will say it again.
I want them next year in two legs again. There is only one team in the world they are afraid at the moment and that team is us.

Really? I think (?) out of the past four CL knockout games against them, we've lost three. They were piss-poor at our this season and they still beat us

Lost 3, won 2.

[Outcast]

^^^,

Well Mase , if it is a throwaway comment , why make it ? Throw it away Ayrshireblue made a good point . That had no relevance to city.why bring us into it all.

A game that in all fairness would be just another mid table PL game.
Shocking ball control throughout and one team gets lucky.

The record books will show we conceded 4 goals to that shower of shite. You can spin it however you like, we lost because we weren't good enough over the two legs, being the better team doesn't mean jack if you can't get the job done. Pep and the players have to take full responsibility for their shortcomings.

We lost because we couldn't score 4 more penalties when we were 1 up.
The record books will show we scored 4 goals against the CL Winners, 4 good goals not a couple of freak deflections.
Never mind, only 1 more year of the bald fraud then we can get somebody decent in

Arsenal will argue they played better football than us, defensively and going forward (I dont agree). The record books will show we're the champions, we did what we had to get it over the line. In 20 years time no one will care what they did, all it matters we're the champions. Real got the job done, whether it's deflections, penalties, fluke, they found a way and got it over the line. Same with the rags, they found a way to get it over the line when clearly we're the superior team. There are issues require addressing over the summer.
Why the likes of you and others get so defensive when this is highlighted?
Even Pep admitted he fucked up against the rags, yet weirdly some posters refuse to acknowledge it and get all defensive.

P.s I hope Pep extends another 5 years.

[stupot]

Arsenal can argue they were better defensively as the conceded 5 less. They can't argue they were better going forward as we scored 5 more.
Pep always takes responsibility when we lose but the only thing he changed at Wembley were the centre backs and everyone on this board has been screaming for Akanji to be swapped for Stones for months.
The getting it over the line in the league involved going unbeaten from December. The league is the only tournament where the best team wins every year. You can go out of any cup competition with an element of bad luck. Unfortunately that's happened a few times in the CL.
Fully agree with you on the Pep extension, don't think it will happen though

[Mase]

Arsenal can argue they were better defensively as the conceded 5 less. They can't argue they were better going forward as we scored 5 more.
Pep always takes responsibility when we lose but the only thing he changed at Wembley were the centre backs and everyone on this board has been screaming for Akanji to be swapped for Stones for months.
The getting it over the line in the league involved going unbeaten from December. The league is the only tournament where the best team wins every year. You can go out of any cup competition with an element of bad luck. Unfortunately that's happened a few times in the CL.
Fully agree with you on the Pep extension, don't think it will happen though

He forced Kovacic in as well, who didn’t start the final game of the season. That totally changed our style of play.

He played two CB together that had been injured.

We could all argue about it but it’s irrelevant, Pep’s already admitted it was his fault.

Get Fat Sam in quick before someone snaps him up.

[stupot]

Arsenal can argue they were better defensively as the conceded 5 less. They can't argue they were better going forward as we scored 5 more.
Pep always takes responsibility when we lose but the only thing he changed at Wembley were the centre backs and everyone on this board has been screaming for Akanji to be swapped for Stones for months.
The getting it over the line in the league involved going unbeaten from December. The league is the only tournament where the best team wins every year. You can go out of any cup competition with an element of bad luck. Unfortunately that's happened a few times in the CL.
Fully agree with you on the Pep extension, don't think it will happen though

He forced Kovacic in as well, who didn’t start the final game of the season. That totally changed our style of play.

He played two CB together that had been injured.

We could all argue about it but it’s irrelevant, Pep’s already admitted it was his fault.

Get Fat Sam in quick before someone snaps him up.

Kovacic had played the game before at Tottenham- it was hardly like he put him in for the 1st time in months. Was it Pep's fault Gvardiol headed it over Ortega or Walker was caught out of position or a load of top players all had stinkers. He blames himself as he doesn't throw players under the bus.

[Mase]

Arsenal can argue they were better defensively as the conceded 5 less. They can't argue they were better going forward as we scored 5 more.
Pep always takes responsibility when we lose but the only thing he changed at Wembley were the centre backs and everyone on this board has been screaming for Akanji to be swapped for Stones for months.
The getting it over the line in the league involved going unbeaten from December. The league is the only tournament where the best team wins every year. You can go out of any cup competition with an element of bad luck. Unfortunately that's happened a few times in the CL.
Fully agree with you on the Pep extension, don't think it will happen though

He forced Kovacic in as well, who didn’t start the final game of the season. That totally changed our style of play.

He played two CB together that had been injured.

We could all argue about it but it’s irrelevant, Pep’s already admitted it was his fault.

Get Fat Sam in quick before someone snaps him up.

Kovacic had played the game before at Tottenham- it was hardly like he put him in for the 1st time in months. Was it Pep's fault Gvardiol headed it over Ortega or Walker was caught out of position or a load of top players all had stinkers. He blames himself as he doesn't throw players under the bus.

We shouldn’t have been loading the midfield against a team that parked the bus. Doku, Grealish or Bobb should have been playing. Attack them and they wouldn’t have been able to cope. Or just pass it around the midfield and go nowhere - like we did. So yes, playing Kovacic was a mistake, as he’s already said.

If you’re saying we can’t believe Pep when he admits it’s his fault, when can we believe what he says? He gets all the plaudits when we win, other fans say - “you’d have won nothing without Pep”. Our fans, rightly, agree that without Pep we wouldn’t have won half of what we have won. But when we lose, especially when it’s a change of tactics and forcing players in that have been injured, it’s on Pep. He’s allowed to make the odd mistake.

And I’ll definitely take the odd mistake if it means we win the Treble, 4 in a row, 100 points, etc.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Arsenal can argue they were better defensively as the conceded 5 less. They can't argue they were better going forward as we scored 5 more.
Pep always takes responsibility when we lose but the only thing he changed at Wembley were the centre backs and everyone on this board has been screaming for Akanji to be swapped for Stones for months.
The getting it over the line in the league involved going unbeaten from December. The league is the only tournament where the best team wins every year. You can go out of any cup competition with an element of bad luck. Unfortunately that's happened a few times in the CL.
Fully agree with you on the Pep extension, don't think it will happen though

He forced Kovacic in as well, who didn’t start the final game of the season. That totally changed our style of play.

He played two CB together that had been injured.

We could all argue about it but it’s irrelevant, Pep’s already admitted it was his fault.

Get Fat Sam in quick before someone snaps him up.

Kovacic had played the game before at Tottenham- it was hardly like he put him in for the 1st time in months. Was it Pep's fault Gvardiol headed it over Ortega or Walker was caught out of position or a load of top players all had stinkers. He blames himself as he doesn't throw players under the bus.

We shouldn’t have been loading the midfield against a team that parked the bus. Doku, Grealish or Bobb should have been playing. Attack them and they wouldn’t have been able to cope. Or just pass it around the midfield and go nowhere - like we did. So yes, playing Kovacic was a mistake, as he’s already said.

If you’re saying we can’t believe Pep when he admits it’s his fault, when can we believe what he says? He gets all the plaudits when we win, other fans say - “you’d have won nothing without Pep”. Our fans, rightly, agree that without Pep we wouldn’t have won half of what we have won. But when we lose, especially when it’s a change of tactics and forcing players in that have been injured, it’s on Pep. He’s allowed to make the odd mistake.

And I’ll definitely take the odd mistake if it means we win the Treble, 4 in a row, 100 points, etc.

It’s pointless pointing out stuff like this to some fans - don’t waste your time .

[blues2win]

Typical Pep is winning four PL titles in a row, winning the treble, chalking up 100 points. My god well miss him. Whingeing about the odd match where he gets it wrong is pretty strange. Anyone who replaces him will almost certainly make many more mistakes

[Mase]

Typical Pep is winning four PL titles in a row, winning the treble, chalking up 100 points. My god well miss him. Whingeing about the odd match where he gets it wrong is pretty strange. Anyone who replaces him will almost certainly make many more mistakes

Whinging about people “whinging”. Definitely off season

[zuricity]

They still talk about the Arse unbeaten season ,TWENTY years on. The rags busby babes, the goldgen generation , class of 92, or whatever.

all of which is totally irrelevant to Ayreshireblues point about the substitutions last night.

[blues2win]

Yes and I’m whingeing about you whingeing about my whingeing.

[Nick]

I'm in the love pep but I always want to do the best we can and feel we can criticise him where valid.

I don't see why he needs to "overthink" against "lesser" teams - like united, Monaco, lyon, Chelsea etc.

Is that ego? Or nerves?

I get over thinking with scouse and can let him off there as they have been a good team against us at Enfield. We always get screwed over and the players shit their pants. But fucking with a winning team against bums like united is just stupid.

[zuricity]

So is Mbappe the new Kane ?

[Nigels Tackle]

cl is boring
same team seems to win it most years

[CTID Hants]

So is Mbappe the new Kane ?

Score hat loads and both win nowt? Don't mind if he is

[zuricity]

So is Mbappe the new Kane ?

Score hat loads and both win nowt? Don't mind if he is

Would be nice eh ?

[Beefymcfc]

^^^,

Well Mase , if it is a throwaway comment , why make it ? Throw it away Ayrshireblue made a good point . That had no relevance to city.why bring us into it all.

A game that in all fairness would be just another mid table PL game.
Shocking ball control throughout and one team gets lucky.

The record books will show we conceded 4 goals to that shower of shite. You can spin it however you like, we lost because we weren't good enough over the two legs, being the better team doesn't mean jack if you can't get the job done. Pep and the players have to take full responsibility for their shortcomings.

The most sensible post of the thread. Perhaps if we had beaten them we wouldn't have won the Prem, because Pep would have overthought it. We certainly couldn't manage a second trophy against Utd a few days later. Perhaps motivation of the players and manager is just not like it was

I do despair sometimes, blaming Pep for winning the fourth PL title on a trot.

Motivation, eh, coming off the back of a Treble, Treble Treble, Double, 100 points … do I need to go on?

Winning the league, against all odds early on, is tremendous. Everything else is just gravy.