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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby nottsblue » Thu Dec 19, 2024 7:38 pm

Mase wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Mase wrote:
stupot wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
One of many.

One of a few but the question still remains why you'd give him money if he comes 4th but not the Jan after 4 in a row when the squad is depleted.


To be fair, there’s been some terrible signings.

Mendy
Nolito
Gomez
Phillips
Nunes
Torres
Angeliño
Bravo
Steffan

Thankfully we’ve got it right more often than not.

Torres?
We made somewhere in the region of £30/35m profit


If you’re including profit then every single one of our kids we’ve sold has been brilliant, even selling Palmer.

As a signing he did nothing for us. I get what you’re saying though

As I recall he wasn’t a mug. Not gonna be a star for us but he scored his fair share. The others on the list though were and have been poor value
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby PeterParker » Thu Dec 19, 2024 7:54 pm

I think the critics on Gomez were a bit harsh. The kid was a playmaker and was forced to train and somewhat play as a left back.
Had zero chances to prove himself here.
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby PeterParker » Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:03 pm

And ffs, please, for the love of God, NOT POGBA!
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:03 pm

Pep likes a small squad and that's very understandable IF you are lucky with Injuries. The last few years we have had a few key players with long layoffs but not multiple key players at the same time.

I think the fact that he likes a small squad is the problem that has come home to roost. We have been the most successful club, which means we are playing more games that any other team. The small squad means more minutes on the pitch for key players and very little respite.

This in itself will cause injuries (like Rodri's whinge), so we need to expand the squad. Get rid of nobody in January, get 3 decent levels players in, and look to replace in the summer

We need to help the existing players rest this season, and we need additional bodies to help us achieve that. If we don't bring anyone in then it's going to be a Chelsea or Rag season of finishing 8th and likely going into that god awful uefa conference debacle. I would rather finish 10th to make sure we missed it if that was the case.
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:48 pm

Wonderwall wrote:Pep likes a small squad and that's very understandable IF you are lucky with Injuries. The last few years we have had a few key players with long layoffs but not multiple key players at the same time.

I think the fact that he likes a small squad is the problem that has come home to roost. We have been the most successful club, which means we are playing more games that any other team. The small squad means more minutes on the pitch for key players and very little respite.

This in itself will cause injuries (like Rodri's whinge), so we need to expand the squad. Get rid of nobody in January, get 3 decent levels players in, and look to replace in the summer

We need to help the existing players rest this season, and we need additional bodies to help us achieve that. If we don't bring anyone in then it's going to be a Chelsea or Rag season of finishing 8th and likely going into that god awful uefa conference debacle. I would rather finish 10th to make sure we missed it if that was the case.


We are taking a huge risk giving pep 10s of millions in the worst month of the year.
It’s a huge risk given the fact that if it doesn’t work out he’s off in the summer for the new manager to come in and pick up the pieces that pep might leave behind - it will be a huge task to get rid of half the garbage we are now lumbered with.

That in itself will be a mission .

I’d rather we work with what we have as it’s STILL good enough for a top 4 spot - no matter what the pep apologists say and if it doesn’t work out then give the new manager a war chest to do what needs doing.
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:52 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:Pep likes a small squad and that's very understandable IF you are lucky with Injuries. The last few years we have had a few key players with long layoffs but not multiple key players at the same time.

I think the fact that he likes a small squad is the problem that has come home to roost. We have been the most successful club, which means we are playing more games that any other team. The small squad means more minutes on the pitch for key players and very little respite.

This in itself will cause injuries (like Rodri's whinge), so we need to expand the squad. Get rid of nobody in January, get 3 decent levels players in, and look to replace in the summer

We need to help the existing players rest this season, and we need additional bodies to help us achieve that. If we don't bring anyone in then it's going to be a Chelsea or Rag season of finishing 8th and likely going into that god awful uefa conference debacle. I would rather finish 10th to make sure we missed it if that was the case.


We are taking a huge risk giving pep 10s of millions in the worst month of the year.
It’s a huge risk given the fact that if it doesn’t work out he’s off in the summer for the new manager to come in and pick up the pieces that pep might leave behind - it will be q huge take to get rid of half the garbage we are now lumbered with.

That in itself will be a mission .

I’d rather we work with what we have as it’s STILL good enough for a top 4 spot - no matter what the pep apologists say.


I disagree, we need a rodri replacement/helper and his Spanish mate proves they can play together in the same team. That will really help us.

If we stand still I January, we will go backwards in the second half of the season. We can still do well and win things but the league is gone. Doing nothing is stupidity, the team is crying out for additions, never mind replacements
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby zuricity » Thu Dec 19, 2024 10:09 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:Pep likes a small squad and that's very understandable IF you are lucky with Injuries. The last few years we have had a few key players with long layoffs but not multiple key players at the same time.

I think the fact that he likes a small squad is the problem that has come home to roost. We have been the most successful club, which means we are playing more games that any other team. The small squad means more minutes on the pitch for key players and very little respite.

This in itself will cause injuries (like Rodri's whinge), so we need to expand the squad. Get rid of nobody in January, get 3 decent levels players in, and look to replace in the summer

We need to help the existing players rest this season, and we need additional bodies to help us achieve that. If we don't bring anyone in then it's going to be a Chelsea or Rag season of finishing 8th and likely going into that god awful uefa conference debacle. I would rather finish 10th to make sure we missed it if that was the case.


We are taking a huge risk giving pep 10s of millions in the worst month of the year.
It’s a huge risk given the fact that if it doesn’t work out he’s off in the summer for the new manager to come in and pick up the pieces that pep might leave behind - it will be a huge task to get rid of half the garbage we are now lumbered with.

That in itself will be a mission .

I’d rather we work with what we have as it’s STILL good enough for a top 4 spot - no matter what the pep apologists say and if it doesn’t work out then give the new manager a war chest to do what needs doing.


Carl, there is not going to be a new manager in the summer.
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu Dec 19, 2024 11:42 pm

zuricity wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:Pep likes a small squad and that's very understandable IF you are lucky with Injuries. The last few years we have had a few key players with long layoffs but not multiple key players at the same time.

I think the fact that he likes a small squad is the problem that has come home to roost. We have been the most successful club, which means we are playing more games that any other team. The small squad means more minutes on the pitch for key players and very little respite.

This in itself will cause injuries (like Rodri's whinge), so we need to expand the squad. Get rid of nobody in January, get 3 decent levels players in, and look to replace in the summer

We need to help the existing players rest this season, and we need additional bodies to help us achieve that. If we don't bring anyone in then it's going to be a Chelsea or Rag season of finishing 8th and likely going into that god awful uefa conference debacle. I would rather finish 10th to make sure we missed it if that was the case.


We are taking a huge risk giving pep 10s of millions in the worst month of the year.
It’s a huge risk given the fact that if it doesn’t work out he’s off in the summer for the new manager to come in and pick up the pieces that pep might leave behind - it will be a huge task to get rid of half the garbage we are now lumbered with.

That in itself will be a mission .

I’d rather we work with what we have as it’s STILL good enough for a top 4 spot - no matter what the pep apologists say and if it doesn’t work out then give the new manager a war chest to do what needs doing.


Carl, there is not going to be a new manager in the summer.


Hopefully not Zuri but if this shit continues I'm sure he will walk away.
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu Dec 19, 2024 11:43 pm

Wonderwall wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:Pep likes a small squad and that's very understandable IF you are lucky with Injuries. The last few years we have had a few key players with long layoffs but not multiple key players at the same time.

I think the fact that he likes a small squad is the problem that has come home to roost. We have been the most successful club, which means we are playing more games that any other team. The small squad means more minutes on the pitch for key players and very little respite.

This in itself will cause injuries (like Rodri's whinge), so we need to expand the squad. Get rid of nobody in January, get 3 decent levels players in, and look to replace in the summer

We need to help the existing players rest this season, and we need additional bodies to help us achieve that. If we don't bring anyone in then it's going to be a Chelsea or Rag season of finishing 8th and likely going into that god awful uefa conference debacle. I would rather finish 10th to make sure we missed it if that was the case.


We are taking a huge risk giving pep 10s of millions in the worst month of the year.
It’s a huge risk given the fact that if it doesn’t work out he’s off in the summer for the new manager to come in and pick up the pieces that pep might leave behind - it will be q huge take to get rid of half the garbage we are now lumbered with.

That in itself will be a mission .

I’d rather we work with what we have as it’s STILL good enough for a top 4 spot - no matter what the pep apologists say.


I disagree, we need a rodri replacement/helper and his Spanish mate proves they can play together in the same team. That will really help us.

If we stand still I January, we will go backwards in the second half of the season. We can still do well and win things but the league is gone. Doing nothing is stupidity, the team is crying out for additions, never mind replacements


Go on then ...name the realistic purchases that he should make next month as I just don't see any available.
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby Wonderwall » Fri Dec 20, 2024 1:01 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:Pep likes a small squad and that's very understandable IF you are lucky with Injuries. The last few years we have had a few key players with long layoffs but not multiple key players at the same time.

I think the fact that he likes a small squad is the problem that has come home to roost. We have been the most successful club, which means we are playing more games that any other team. The small squad means more minutes on the pitch for key players and very little respite.

This in itself will cause injuries (like Rodri's whinge), so we need to expand the squad. Get rid of nobody in January, get 3 decent levels players in, and look to replace in the summer

We need to help the existing players rest this season, and we need additional bodies to help us achieve that. If we don't bring anyone in then it's going to be a Chelsea or Rag season of finishing 8th and likely going into that god awful uefa conference debacle. I would rather finish 10th to make sure we missed it if that was the case.


We are taking a huge risk giving pep 10s of millions in the worst month of the year.
It’s a huge risk given the fact that if it doesn’t work out he’s off in the summer for the new manager to come in and pick up the pieces that pep might leave behind - it will be q huge take to get rid of half the garbage we are now lumbered with.

That in itself will be a mission .

I’d rather we work with what we have as it’s STILL good enough for a top 4 spot - no matter what the pep apologists say.


I disagree, we need a rodri replacement/helper and his Spanish mate proves they can play together in the same team. That will really help us.

If we stand still I January, we will go backwards in the second half of the season. We can still do well and win things but the league is gone. Doing nothing is stupidity, the team is crying out for additions, never mind replacements


Go on then ...name the realistic purchases that he should make next month as I just don't see any available.


I could name names but what's the point? It won't make a difference.
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby Nick » Fri Dec 20, 2024 5:30 am

Zubamendi

Then 4 of the next jamie vardy types from anywhere than run and give a shit
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby sheblue » Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:14 am

Despite all the talk, it's going to be difficult to get the players we need in January.
I would very much prefer if we signed nobody rather than panic signings who are average. The last thing we need are more nunes or Phillips types and we don't need any more old men either.
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby Mase » Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:19 am

The only decent signing we’ve made in Jan is Laporte? Or did Alvarez sign in a Jan transfer window?
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby nottsblue » Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:20 am

Someone like a Lewandowski on loan would be perfect. Or a Leroy Sane on loan. Players who can do a job for 6 months
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby zuricity » Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:24 am

Sane spends a lot of time on the bench.
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby nottsblue » Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:28 am

zuricity wrote:Sane spends a lot of time on the bench.

But he is probably better than Savinho and Doku and a loan wouldn’t cost a lot. Not necessarily championing Sane per se, just throwing names out there. Guys who aren’t necessarily first choice at their club for whatever reasons but are still good footballers who maybe also have a point to prove.
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby city72 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:34 am

Not a good time to buy as everyone knows we’re in the shit so if January or the summer we will get our tummy tickled and arse whipped again.
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:24 am

city72 wrote:Not a good time to buy as everyone knows we’re in the shit so if January or the summer we will get our tummy tickled and arse whipped again.


I’ve said the same thing time and again but there are still some who think we can’ plug gaps ‘ with (make any name Up ) - I juts cannot see any class player available in January -

If pep would have dropped Walker and Gundo 8 games ago I reckon we wouldn’t be having this fucking conversation !

@Mase , Alvarez ( another player ruined by coming to us ) was signed a year before he came to us and the deal was he came back to us in January ( I think )
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby stupot » Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:31 am

There's been plenty of good January signings.
We got Laporte, Alvarez and Dzeko.
Arsenal- Odegaard
Liverpool- Suarez, Torres
united- fernandez
That's off the top of my head, they're out there.
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Re: Squad Overhaul

Postby blues2win » Fri Dec 20, 2024 12:43 pm

Ruben out for 3-4 weeks with a muscular injury. This season is cursed.
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