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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby dick dastardley » Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:20 am

Let's all remember the PL is the hardest league to win in Europe all the other leagues are pretty much farmers leagues.
There are no easy games in the PL. Two games a week is pretty hard going, what I do take issue with is peps small squad scenario.
A few injuries/dip in form of players and we struggle.
Also world class recruitment and sending young stars out on loan rather than keeping them in the squad makes no sense to me.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu Dec 04, 2025 3:07 pm

dick dastardley wrote:Let's all remember the PL is the hardest league to win in Europe all the other leagues are pretty much farmers leagues.
There are no easy games in the PL. Two games a week is pretty hard going, what I do take issue with is peps small squad scenario.
A few injuries/dip in form of players and we struggle.
Also world class recruitment and sending young stars out on loan rather than keeping them in the squad makes no sense to me.


That’s not the Premier League’s brutality or fixture congestion biting us - Its Pep’s ego that’s the issue : small squad because he demands it mate ! He preaches control but shits it when it’s not going his way and bizarrely makes subs that has every pundit and fan scratching their heads - happens more often than not.
If even a depleted Fulham can nearly nick it off us when we’re coasting, the league’s fine - finger is pointed at the manager mate.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Thu Dec 04, 2025 3:42 pm

All this Pep likes a small squad schtick is because he cannot manage a large squad.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu Dec 04, 2025 3:47 pm

dick dastardley wrote:Let's all remember the PL is the hardest league to win in Europe all the other leagues are pretty much farmers leagues.
There are no easy games in the PL. Two games a week is pretty hard going, what I do take issue with is peps small squad scenario.
A few injuries/dip in form of players and we struggle.
Also world class recruitment and sending young stars out on loan rather than keeping them in the squad makes no sense to me.


That’s not the Premier League’s brutality or fixture congestion biting us - Its Pep’s ego that’s the issue : small squad because he demands it mate ! He preaches control but shits it when it’s not going his way and bizarrely makes subs that has every pundit and fan scratching their heads - happens more often than not.
If even a depleted Fulham can nearly nick it off us when we’re coasting, the league’s fine - finger is pointed at the manager mate.
THEY SAY SWEARING IS DUE TO A LIMITED VOCABULARY. I KNOW THOUSANDS OF WORDS, BUT I STILL PREFER "FUCK OFF" TO "GO AWAY"
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby stupot » Thu Dec 04, 2025 4:25 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
dick dastardley wrote:Let's all remember the PL is the hardest league to win in Europe all the other leagues are pretty much farmers leagues.
There are no easy games in the PL. Two games a week is pretty hard going, what I do take issue with is peps small squad scenario.
A few injuries/dip in form of players and we struggle.
Also world class recruitment and sending young stars out on loan rather than keeping them in the squad makes no sense to me.


That’s not the Premier League’s brutality or fixture congestion biting us - Its Pep’s ego that’s the issue : small squad because he demands it mate ! He preaches control but shits it when it’s not going his way and bizarrely makes subs that has every pundit and fan scratching their heads - happens more often than not.
If even a depleted Fulham can nearly nick it off us when we’re coasting, the league’s fine - finger is pointed at the manager mate.

How's it a small squad exactly. We may not like them all but that's a different argument.
Unchanged team for the last 2 league games. 9 subs, Trafford, Ake, Stones, Khus, Marmoush, Ait Nouri, Cherki, Savinho, Lewis.
That's 20 without Bobb, Rodri, Kova and Ortega.
This small squad idea is a myth.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu Dec 04, 2025 8:09 pm

stupot wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
dick dastardley wrote:Let's all remember the PL is the hardest league to win in Europe all the other leagues are pretty much farmers leagues.
There are no easy games in the PL. Two games a week is pretty hard going, what I do take issue with is peps small squad scenario.
A few injuries/dip in form of players and we struggle.
Also world class recruitment and sending young stars out on loan rather than keeping them in the squad makes no sense to me.


That’s not the Premier League’s brutality or fixture congestion biting us - Its Pep’s ego that’s the issue : small squad because he demands it mate ! He preaches control but shits it when it’s not going his way and bizarrely makes subs that has every pundit and fan scratching their heads - happens more often than not.
If even a depleted Fulham can nearly nick it off us when we’re coasting, the league’s fine - finger is pointed at the manager mate.

How's it a small squad exactly. We may not like them all but that's a different argument.
Unchanged team for the last 2 league games. 9 subs, Trafford, Ake, Stones, Khus, Marmoush, Ait Nouri, Cherki, Savinho, Lewis.
That's 20 without Bobb, Rodri, Kova and Ortega.
This small squad idea is a myth.



As far as total registered players go City have around 25-26 senior outfield players plus goalkeepers, but this includes a handful of fringe or academy promotions rather than established depth compared to the main teams we compete with - it’s what I’ve dug up but I’m open to be corrected.

Comparison to Rivals:
Arsenal: 28-30 (deeper midfield and full-back options).
Liverpool: 27-29 (strong rotation across attack and defense - even if slot has them playing bingo football at the moment )
Chelsea: 30+
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Bluemoon4610 » Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:03 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
stupot wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
dick dastardley wrote:Let's all remember the PL is the hardest league to win in Europe all the other leagues are pretty much farmers leagues.
There are no easy games in the PL. Two games a week is pretty hard going, what I do take issue with is peps small squad scenario.
A few injuries/dip in form of players and we struggle.
Also world class recruitment and sending young stars out on loan rather than keeping them in the squad makes no sense to me.


That’s not the Premier League’s brutality or fixture congestion biting us - Its Pep’s ego that’s the issue : small squad because he demands it mate ! He preaches control but shits it when it’s not going his way and bizarrely makes subs that has every pundit and fan scratching their heads - happens more often than not.
If even a depleted Fulham can nearly nick it off us when we’re coasting, the league’s fine - finger is pointed at the manager mate.

How's it a small squad exactly. We may not like them all but that's a different argument.
Unchanged team for the last 2 league games. 9 subs, Trafford, Ake, Stones, Khus, Marmoush, Ait Nouri, Cherki, Savinho, Lewis.
That's 20 without Bobb, Rodri, Kova and Ortega.
This small squad idea is a myth.



As far as total registered players go City have around 25-26 senior outfield players plus goalkeepers, but this includes a handful of fringe or academy promotions rather than established depth compared to the main teams we compete with - it’s what I’ve dug up but I’m open to be corrected.

Comparison to Rivals:
Arsenal: 28-30 (deeper midfield and full-back options).
Liverpool: 27-29 (strong rotation across attack and defense - even if slot has them playing bingo football at the moment )
Chelsea: 300+


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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby PeterParker » Fri Dec 05, 2025 8:14 am

stupot wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
dick dastardley wrote:Let's all remember the PL is the hardest league to win in Europe all the other leagues are pretty much farmers leagues.
There are no easy games in the PL. Two games a week is pretty hard going, what I do take issue with is peps small squad scenario.
A few injuries/dip in form of players and we struggle.
Also world class recruitment and sending young stars out on loan rather than keeping them in the squad makes no sense to me.


That’s not the Premier League’s brutality or fixture congestion biting us - Its Pep’s ego that’s the issue : small squad because he demands it mate ! He preaches control but shits it when it’s not going his way and bizarrely makes subs that has every pundit and fan scratching their heads - happens more often than not.
If even a depleted Fulham can nearly nick it off us when we’re coasting, the league’s fine - finger is pointed at the manager mate.

How's it a small squad exactly. We may not like them all but that's a different argument.
Unchanged team for the last 2 league games. 9 subs, Trafford, Ake, Stones, Khus, Marmoush, Ait Nouri, Cherki, Savinho, Lewis.
That's 20 without Bobb, Rodri, Kova and Ortega.
This small squad idea is a myth.


How is that a myth when the mighty Genius himself said he wants a small squad?
And not just that we have a small squad, we have a small squad with sicknotes.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby stupot » Fri Dec 05, 2025 8:37 am

PeterParker wrote:
stupot wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
dick dastardley wrote:Let's all remember the PL is the hardest league to win in Europe all the other leagues are pretty much farmers leagues.
There are no easy games in the PL. Two games a week is pretty hard going, what I do take issue with is peps small squad scenario.
A few injuries/dip in form of players and we struggle.
Also world class recruitment and sending young stars out on loan rather than keeping them in the squad makes no sense to me.


That’s not the Premier League’s brutality or fixture congestion biting us - Its Pep’s ego that’s the issue : small squad because he demands it mate ! He preaches control but shits it when it’s not going his way and bizarrely makes subs that has every pundit and fan scratching their heads - happens more often than not.
If even a depleted Fulham can nearly nick it off us when we’re coasting, the league’s fine - finger is pointed at the manager mate.

How's it a small squad exactly. We may not like them all but that's a different argument.
Unchanged team for the last 2 league games. 9 subs, Trafford, Ake, Stones, Khus, Marmoush, Ait Nouri, Cherki, Savinho, Lewis.
That's 20 without Bobb, Rodri, Kova and Ortega.
This small squad idea is a myth.


How is that a myth when the mighty Genius himself said he wants a small squad?
It's a myth because we have 24 senior players
And not just that we have a small squad, we have a small squad with sicknotes.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby stupot » Fri Dec 05, 2025 8:38 am

It's a myth because we have 24 senior players.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Bluemoon4610 » Fri Dec 05, 2025 9:13 am

stupot wrote:It's a myth because we have 24 senior players.

According to Transfermarkt, we have a senior squad of 26. There are at least 5 clubs with smaller senior squads. The PL average is 27.4, skewed slightly by Sunderland having 35.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Im_Spartacus » Fri Dec 05, 2025 9:40 am

Bluemoon4610 wrote:
stupot wrote:It's a myth because we have 24 senior players.

According to Transfermarkt, we have a senior squad of 26. There are at least 5 clubs with smaller senior squads. The PL average is 27.4, skewed slightly by Sunderland having 35.


Combined, out of 26, we need to take 3 Central Defensive midfielders (Rodri, Kovacic, Phillips) out of the equation, which largely explains why the team is picking itself at the moment.

On form, Pep's preferred 11 seems to be:
Donarumma
Nunes
Dias
Gvardiol
Oreilly
-
Nico
Silva
Reindeers
-
Doku
Haaland
Foden

When you consider that this leaves us with the following 12 fit players..

Cherki (not found his groove yet)
Marmoush (injured most of the season)
Ait Nouri (jury still out)
Khusanov (Pep doesn't seem to like him)
Lewis (Pep seems to have lost trust in him)
Ake
Stones
Savinho
Bobb
The other 3 are goalkeepers

It's remarkable that we're 2nd with that squad, and if we stay there or even win the league, I think it will be one of Pep's most remarkable achievements - we're much better than last year, but that for me is coming from a combination of 2 things only - Nico understanding his role better and a more attacking intent. But in both cases, when a team gets after us like we've seen recently, or in Newcastle/Villa game, we're struggling to stem the tide.

The squad still needs major renovation - the players who Pep doesn't fancy need to be shipped out rather than just occupying space.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby nottsblue » Fri Dec 05, 2025 10:05 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Bluemoon4610 wrote:
stupot wrote:It's a myth because we have 24 senior players.

According to Transfermarkt, we have a senior squad of 26. There are at least 5 clubs with smaller senior squads. The PL average is 27.4, skewed slightly by Sunderland having 35.


Combined, out of 26, we need to take 3 Central Defensive midfielders (Rodri, Kovacic, Phillips) out of the equation, which largely explains why the team is picking itself at the moment.

On form, Pep's preferred 11 seems to be:
Donarumma
Nunes
Dias
Gvardiol
Oreilly
-
Nico
Silva
Reindeers
-
Doku
Haaland
Foden

When you consider that this leaves us with the following 12 fit players..

Cherki (not found his groove yet)
Marmoush (injured most of the season)
Ait Nouri (jury still out)
Khusanov (Pep doesn't seem to like him)
Lewis (Pep seems to have lost trust in him)
Ake
Stones
Savinho
Bobb
The other 3 are goalkeepers

It's remarkable that we're 2nd with that squad, and if we stay there or even win the league, I think it will be one of Pep's most remarkable achievements - we're much better than last year, but that for me is coming from a combination of 2 things only - Nico understanding his role better and a more attacking intent. But in both cases, when a team gets after us like we've seen recently, or in Newcastle/Villa game, we're struggling to stem the tide.

The squad still needs major renovation - the players who Pep doesn't fancy need to be shipped out rather than just occupying space.

The last sentence is very pertinent. I wonder whether we wont sell many as the next incoming manager might fancy them? And it's not likely to be long before Pep retires of his own volition anyway
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Bluemoon4610 » Fri Dec 05, 2025 10:08 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Bluemoon4610 wrote:
stupot wrote:It's a myth because we have 24 senior players.

According to Transfermarkt, we have a senior squad of 26. There are at least 5 clubs with smaller senior squads. The PL average is 27.4, skewed slightly by Sunderland having 35.


Combined, out of 26, we need to take 3 Central Defensive midfielders (Rodri, Kovacic, Phillips) out of the equation, which largely explains why the team is picking itself at the moment.

On form, Pep's preferred 11 seems to be:
Donarumma
Nunes
Dias
Gvardiol
Oreilly
-
Nico
Silva
Reindeers
-
Doku
Haaland
Foden

When you consider that this leaves us with the following 12 fit players..

Cherki (not found his groove yet)
Marmoush (injured most of the season)
Ait Nouri (jury still out)
Khusanov (Pep doesn't seem to like him)
Lewis (Pep seems to have lost trust in him)
Ake
Stones
Savinho
Bobb
The other 3 are goalkeepers

It's remarkable that we're 2nd with that squad, and if we stay there or even win the league, I think it will be one of Pep's most remarkable achievements - we're much better than last year, but that for me is coming from a combination of 2 things only - Nico understanding his role better and a more attacking intent. But in both cases, when a team gets after us like we've seen recently, or in Newcastle/Villa game, we're struggling to stem the tide.

The squad still needs major renovation - the players who Pep doesn't fancy need to be shipped out rather than just occupying space.


I'd agree with all of that, Party. Our midfield without Rodri is just about invisible as a defensive unit, hence teams are just overrunning us in the 2nd half of games.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby sheblue » Fri Dec 05, 2025 11:50 am

Bluemoon4610 wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
Bluemoon4610 wrote:
stupot wrote:It's a myth because we have 24 senior players.

According to Transfermarkt, we have a senior squad of 26. There are at least 5 clubs with smaller senior squads. The PL average is 27.4, skewed slightly by Sunderland having 35.


Combined, out of 26, we need to take 3 Central Defensive midfielders (Rodri, Kovacic, Phillips) out of the equation, which largely explains why the team is picking itself at the moment.

On form, Pep's preferred 11 seems to be:
Donarumma
Nunes
Dias
Gvardiol
Oreilly
-
Nico
Silva
Reindeers
-
Doku
Haaland
Foden

When you consider that this leaves us with the following 12 fit players..

Cherki (not found his groove yet)
Marmoush (injured most of the season)
Ait Nouri (jury still out)
Khusanov (Pep doesn't seem to like him)
Lewis (Pep seems to have lost trust in him)
Ake
Stones
Savinho
Bobb
The other 3 are goalkeepers

It's remarkable that we're 2nd with that squad, and if we stay there or even win the league, I think it will be one of Pep's most remarkable achievements - we're much better than last year, but that for me is coming from a combination of 2 things only - Nico understanding his role better and a more attacking intent. But in both cases, when a team gets after us like we've seen recently, or in Newcastle/Villa game, we're struggling to stem the tide.

The squad still needs major renovation - the players who Pep doesn't fancy need to be shipped out rather than just occupying space.


I'd agree with all of that, Party. Our midfield without Rodri is just about invisible as a defensive unit, hence teams are just overrunning us in the 2nd half of games.


The reason were better than last year is players like Foden, Dias, Haaland, Doku,Nunes and O Reilly are playing better add to that new signings such as Don and Nico G have contributed. But really its the established core of the team that has improved and the 'rebuild' has not had the impact some might think.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Dec 06, 2025 12:34 am

What are the odds he still plays Nunes at RB tomorrow and Savinho has some role to play over the 90 mins.

Surely the stubborn cunt has to make changes for tomorrow’s game ?
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