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Re: Found guilty

Postby Sideshow Bob » Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:58 pm

without city my interest in football is basically zero. need to find a new hobby i guess.
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Re: Found guilty

Postby branny » Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:00 pm

So somebody connected with the case has anonymously told Ornstein and now every other outlet reporting it is just saying "sources" and quoting The Athletic. I'm also seeing that all the other pl clubs have been informed too. Would have expected City or tPl to have issued some kind of statement before that happened. Everything surrounding the case has been watertight so far. I'm not convinced this is legit.
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Re: Found guilty

Postby KinkyKinkladze » Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:04 pm

Honestly? Couldn't give a fuck. I genuinely cannot stand what football has become, also don't really like where city are headed (and every other club for that matter) with how they view football and the future. I'll always support us even if we're booted to the conference. But the last 15 years have been sensational and no independent court panel can take away that experience from me. Fuck them all, fuck football. The entire thing is bent and is only eating itself into apocalypse.
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Re: Found guilty

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:12 pm

Just on BBC news saying the league have limitless powers to punish City they are almost giddy. Time just right this isn't it during the break
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Re: Found guilty

Postby john@staustell » Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:23 pm

Sky very cautious. Just saying it moves to appeal stage. Wonder which 'independent panel' will do that. Then there'll be sentence and appeal. Give it another 2 or 3 years.

But I thought if there was a leak, it all goes tits up?

Club says:

"The club has diligently respected due process for 8 years on the basis that the club board and executive would behave as an independent, impartial and fair minded regulator, free from partisan influence"

That's just ridiculous
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Re: Found guilty

Postby TrueBlue4610 » Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:24 pm

This is the breakdown of the charges, which would appear to be in 5 different categories - none of which is a solitary charge. Yet they are reporting "guilty" on 114 out of the 115 charges? With no news of which one wasn't proven? Sounds like "slow news day BS" to me...
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Re: Found guilty

Postby john@staustell » Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:32 pm

I haven't heard anything about the 'charges' that isn't either wrong or pedantic trivia
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Re: Found guilty

Postby Wooders » Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:41 pm

Well thats a shitty start to the weekend
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Re: Found guilty

Postby CTID Hants » Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:52 pm

Nowt on the OS, surely would have a statement prepared ages ago, they must know what the decision is....

That, or ormstrein has just committed Harry Karry going too early....
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Re: Found guilty

Postby Indianablue » Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:59 pm

Not surprised a verdict story has been leaked when we're top of the league and due to play the murderers.
Nothing official has been announced so i'll wait. Find it hard to believe Khaldoun was so confident in his end of year interview and we've spent a fair few bob on ground expansion? Doesnt ring true to me so i'll wait City to say something
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Re: Found guilty

Postby Wooders » Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:10 pm

Club have literally just posted about Haaland being player of the month while all this is breaking - so looks like they’re not arsed about this story breaking right now

So - if this is true and we’re guilty, blah appeals appeals never the less - khaldoon and the board members involved need to go, which would be a bigger tragedy for the club in my opinion, he also gave *that* end of season interview, effectively putting our minds at rest, making a lot of us, especially me, look a right twat in some of my footie circles
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Re: Found guilty

Postby bigblue » Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:17 pm

Redna wrote:Who is Ornstein?


an arsenal spokesperson, which having it leak out this way taints the whole process even more than it already has been
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Re: Found guilty

Postby Crossie » Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:18 pm

Calm down. It’s not official yet.
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Re: Found guilty

Postby patrickblue » Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:19 pm

Sky have hardly said a word about it.
All very odd, and as I said, I suspect media BS.
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Re: Found guilty

Postby CTID Hants » Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:23 pm

bigblue wrote:
Redna wrote:Who is Ornstein?


an arsenal spokescunt, which having it leak out this way taints the whole process even more than it already has been


Fixed that for you....
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Re: Found guilty

Postby bigblue » Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:24 pm

john@staustell wrote:Sky very cautious. Just saying it moves to appeal stage. Wonder which 'independent panel' will do that. Then there'll be sentence and appeal. Give it another 2 or 3 years.

But I thought if there was a leak, it all goes tits up?

Club says:

"The club has diligently respected due process for 8 years on the basis that the club board and executive would behave as an independent, impartial and fair minded regulator, free from partisan influence"

That's just ridiculous


I think the clubs statement is clearly facetious, knowing that the process has been very very far from independent, impartial and fair minded. All of this from a hacker (who has been convicted) selectively leaking emails that make the club look bad while withholding the full information that he took - which is pretty much the opposite of almost all other document dumps after a hack has taken place.
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Re: Found guilty

Postby sheblue » Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:40 pm

I am sorry but where is this official club statement? Cant see it on the official app.
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Re: Found guilty

Postby bigblue » Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:54 pm

The most corrupt thing about this is the fact that these rules exist at all. Only being allowed to spend money based on your previous years revenue. But how do you increase your revenue (better results in competitions, more fans)? By spending more money: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/645070 ... e-success/

No other sport (or business environment) has structured their rules this way. Even American sports leagues have a salary cap that applies equally to all teams, not only the traditionally less successful. All this talk of the super league being the worst thing ever proposed for the sport, yet England has had it's own super league in place since 1992 when the big 5 wanted a greater share of TV revenue for themselves. City broke into the oligarchy at the top, which clearly rattled them so much that they are looking to squash the club any way they can - even in the most blatantly corrupt way possible.

This combined with Palace, Villa, & Newcastle having to sell off most of their best players as soon as they start qualifying for Europe makes it very hard for anyone who loves the sport and fair competition to care too much about the PL.
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Re: Found guilty

Postby salford city » Fri Sep 25, 2026 5:01 pm

Wooders wrote:Club have literally just posted about Haaland being player of the month while all this is breaking - so looks like they’re not arsed about this story breaking right now

So - if this is true and we’re guilty, blah appeals appeals never the less - khaldoon and the board members involved need to go, which would be a bigger tragedy for the club in my opinion, he also gave *that* end of season interview, effectively putting our minds at rest, making a lot of us, especially me, look a right twat in some of my footie circles


It was Khaldoon's words that I was hanging on to. Like others have said, looks like someone has got giddy and shot their load early with this. The PL would be all over this so I will also wait.
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Re: Found guilty

Postby Indianablue » Fri Sep 25, 2026 5:29 pm

Stefan Borsan seems to be lending a bit of weight behind the fact that the verdict might be in. Just listened to him on Talkshite and although he doesn't know, he's coming round to the view that all hell will be let loose and once the the decision is forced out into the open, reputatations will be slaughtered.
It doesnt sound good but this is what i expect over the next months.
Cant believe it took so long to be found guilty of all charges 'cept 1.

This story and our club are not over by a long chalk
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