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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby btajim » Fri May 07, 2010 7:23 am

Tokyo Blue wrote:And btajim, if we draw, we will finish 5th unless Villa win by, ooh let's see, the mere bagatelle that is fifteen goals.


I was thinking we more lose at West Ham on Sunday and Villa win. The Hammers have nothing to play for - but City want to secure their best finish for a long time. Typical?!

Villa should beat Blackburn.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby btajim » Fri May 07, 2010 7:24 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Not really. I'm genuinely saddened about Grob. Despite not always agreeing with him, he was one of the, if not THE, best poster around here until about year ago. I used to sprint on a topic to see what he had to offer when he had posted on one. Now he has tried to adopt some sort of Dev Alahanesque clever little wind up approach which simply doesn't suit him.

We have people who never were too sharp but I KNOW Grob is one of the sharpest fellers around here who knows what he is talking about when he wants to so that's why it makes me feel so disappointed. He is like Robinho, so much talent but wasting it on secondary things.


Rubbish. Grob's views are more reasonable than anyones. i.e. He looks at the facts, has no bias towards anyone and puts his point across perfectly.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 07, 2010 7:26 am

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Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Not really. I'm genuinely saddened about Grob. Despite not always agreeing with him, he was one of the, if not THE, best poster around here until about year ago. I used to sprint on a topic to see what he had to offer when he had posted on one. Now he has tried to adopt some sort of Dev Alahanesque clever little wind up approach which simply doesn't suit him.

We have people who never were too sharp but I KNOW Grob is one of the sharpest fellers around here who knows what he is talking about when he wants to so that's why it makes me feel so disappointed. He is like Robinho, so much talent but wasting it on secondary things.


Rubbish. Grob's views are more reasonable than anyones. i.e. He looks at the facts, has no bias towards anyone and puts his point across perfectly.


Repating ad nauseum how Mancini should be sacked because Hughes was sacked has nothing to do with being sensible. Especially as his point regarding Hughes was stability. He just happens to say the same thing you are saying. That doesn't make it sensible. Far from it. Looking for vengeance has nothing to do with what's good for the football club. Saying that he thinks Mancini hasn't got it for this and that reason might be sensible. But looking for blood by asking someone who had nothing to do with Hughes sacking to be sacked is childish at best.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby btajim » Fri May 07, 2010 7:28 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Repating ad nauseum how Mancini should be sacked because Hughes was sacked has nothing to do with being sensible. Especially as his point regarding Hughes was stability. He just happens to say the same thing you are saying. That doesn't make it sensible. Far from it.


Hughes was sacked despite being on course to meet his target and Mancini doesn't look like he'll be sacked despite missing his target.

To be honest, I felt Mancini's target was a little too high. He had a transfer window to bring in players and had not had any time to scout people he might want to bring in.

I want the Guy to win everything for this Club but I'm yet to be convinced. That's a very sensible thing to say.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Slim » Fri May 07, 2010 7:33 am

btajim wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Repating ad nauseum how Mancini should be sacked because Hughes was sacked has nothing to do with being sensible. Especially as his point regarding Hughes was stability. He just happens to say the same thing you are saying. That doesn't make it sensible. Far from it.


Hughes was sacked despite being on course to meet his target and Mancini doesn't look like he'll be sacked despite missing his target.

To be honest, I felt Mancini's target was a little too high. He had a transfer window to bring in players and had not had any time to scout people he might want to bring in.

I want the Guy to win everything for this Club but I'm yet to be convinced. That's a very sensible thing to say.


Hughes target was 70 points, he wasn't on target, he went two entire months without a league win and we were making awful defensive mistakes and it wasn't being addressed, as evidenced by the fact he managed in his last 3 games to leak 9 goals(that I think sealed it for him).
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 07, 2010 7:39 am

btajim wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Repating ad nauseum how Mancini should be sacked because Hughes was sacked has nothing to do with being sensible. Especially as his point regarding Hughes was stability. He just happens to say the same thing you are saying. That doesn't make it sensible. Far from it.


Hughes was sacked despite being on course to meet his target and Mancini doesn't look like he'll be sacked despite missing his target.
To be honest, I felt Mancini's target was a little too high. He had a transfer window to bring in players and had not had any time to scout people he might want to bring in.

I want the Guy to win everything for this Club but I'm yet to be convinced. That's a very sensible thing to say.


Even the facts that Hughes wasn't on course to reach his targets and the fact that there were other reasons (like finishing 10th last season) behind his sacking are completely irrelevant here. The big question here is, of course, so fucking what? What does it have to do with Mancini? If you want, you can vent your anger on owners and Khaldoon for sacking Hughes. Although that would be crazy, they were the ones who took the decision. Not Mancini. What did you expect from him? to turn down such super managerial opportunity? And if he had been so valiant, do you think we would be without manager now?

Like I said, you and Grob haven't really thought this through. And that's one of the things that makes me disappointed regarding Grob. I could've never thought he'd take such poorly thoughtout approach on anything. Being the intelligent feller he is.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby btajim » Fri May 07, 2010 7:53 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Even the facts that Hughes wasn't on course to reach his targets and the fact that there were other reasons (like finishing 10th last season) behind his sacking are completely irrelevant here. The big question here is, of course, so fucking what? What does it have to do with Mancini? If you want, you can vent your anger on owners and Khaldoon for sacking Hughes. Although that would be crazy, they were the ones who took the decision. Not Mancini. What did you expect from him? to turn down such super managerial opportunity? And if he had been so valiant, do you think we would be without manager now?

Like I said, you and Grob haven't really thought this through. And that's one of the things that makes me disappointed regarding Grob. I could've never thought he'd take such poorly thoughtout approach on anything. Being the intelligent feller he is.


He WAS on course. We were in 6th place after we beat Sunderland. Besides, Hughes' sides are stronger in the second half of the season. There were lots of new Players who needed time to gel.

Personally, I would've expected to Mancini to only talk to Manchester City once there was a vacancy for Manager. They'd approached him weeks before Hughes went and Hiddink had already turned us down because there was already a Man in the job. It's how most Managers do things. Hughes should've been sacked after the Spurs Match and Brian Kidd placed in charge until Mancini was appointed.

So Grob is "intelligent feller" and I'm not? That's you off my Christmas Card list.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 07, 2010 7:56 am

btajim wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Even the facts that Hughes wasn't on course to reach his targets and the fact that there were other reasons (like finishing 10th last season) behind his sacking are completely irrelevant here. The big question here is, of course, so fucking what? What does it have to do with Mancini? If you want, you can vent your anger on owners and Khaldoon for sacking Hughes. Although that would be crazy, they were the ones who took the decision. Not Mancini. What did you expect from him? to turn down such super managerial opportunity? And if he had been so valiant, do you think we would be without manager now?

Like I said, you and Grob haven't really thought this through. And that's one of the things that makes me disappointed regarding Grob. I could've never thought he'd take such poorly thoughtout approach on anything. Being the intelligent feller he is.


He WAS on course. We were in 6th place after we beat Sunderland. Besides, Hughes' sides are stronger in the second half of the season. There were lots of new Players who needed time to gel.

Personally, I would've expected to Mancini to only talk to Manchester City once there was a vacancy for Manager. They'd approached him weeks before Hughes went and Hiddink had already turned us down because there was already a Man in the job. It's how most Managers do things. Hughes should've been sacked after the Spurs Match and Brian Kidd placed in charge until Mancini was appointed.
So Grob is "intelligent feller" and I'm not? That's you off my Christmas Card list.


Hiddink turned us down because he didn't want to come back to club management. The very same reason he turned down Chelsea! That had fuck all to do with Hughes being in charge.

Kidd in charge???? Did you see his Blackburn??? And yet another Rag in top job (albeit one who did play well for City)??? Fuck no.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby btajim » Fri May 07, 2010 8:00 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Hiddink turned us down because he didn't want to come back to club management. The very same reason he turned down Chelsea! That had fuck all to do with Hughes being in charge.

Kidd in charge???? Did you see his Blackburn??? And yet another Rag in top job (albeit one who did play well for City)??? Fuck no.


Hiddink has admitted he thought long and hard before turning us down. Doesn't sound dismissive to me.

Are you not pleased with Kidd as Assistant Manager? Previous Number 2 to Jim Cassell and an ex-RAG. That one must really confuse you.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 07, 2010 8:03 am

btajim wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Hiddink turned us down because he didn't want to come back to club management. The very same reason he turned down Chelsea! That had fuck all to do with Hughes being in charge.

Kidd in charge???? Did you see his Blackburn??? And yet another Rag in top job (albeit one who did play well for City)??? Fuck no.


Hiddink has admitted he thought long and hard before turning us down. Doesn't sound dismissive to me.

Are you not pleased with Kidd as Assistant Manager? Previous Number 2 to Jim Cassell and an ex-RAG. That one must really confuse you.


I'm sastisfied with Kidd as number two, that's where he is world class. He is SHIT manager though. And what do you mean "previous number 2 to Jim Cassell"? He was actually above Cassell in hierarchy.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Original Dub » Fri May 07, 2010 8:34 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
btajim wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Hiddink turned us down because he didn't want to come back to club management. The very same reason he turned down Chelsea! That had fuck all to do with Hughes being in charge.

Kidd in charge???? Did you see his Blackburn??? And yet another Rag in top job (albeit one who did play well for City)??? Fuck no.


Hiddink has admitted he thought long and hard before turning us down. Doesn't sound dismissive to me.

Are you not pleased with Kidd as Assistant Manager? Previous Number 2 to Jim Cassell and an ex-RAG. That one must really confuse you.


I'm sastisfied with Kidd as number two, that's where he is world class. He is SHIT manager though. And what do you mean "previous number 2 to Jim Cassell"? He was actually above Cassell in hierarchy.


Nobody is above Jim Cassell.....

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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 07, 2010 8:40 am

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Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
btajim wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Hiddink turned us down because he didn't want to come back to club management. The very same reason he turned down Chelsea! That had fuck all to do with Hughes being in charge.

Kidd in charge???? Did you see his Blackburn??? And yet another Rag in top job (albeit one who did play well for City)??? Fuck no.


Hiddink has admitted he thought long and hard before turning us down. Doesn't sound dismissive to me.

Are you not pleased with Kidd as Assistant Manager? Previous Number 2 to Jim Cassell and an ex-RAG. That one must really confuse you.


I'm sastisfied with Kidd as number two, that's where he is world class. He is SHIT manager though. And what do you mean "previous number 2 to Jim Cassell"? He was actually above Cassell in hierarchy.


Nobody is above Jim Cassell.....

Not even Jesus Christ.


Well Jim Cassell has done more for this Club than Jesus N. Christ.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby lets all have a disco » Fri May 07, 2010 8:44 am

He is staying so he gets my support,BUT if i deem fit i will debate issues with his management decisions,style,formations and if i want to call him a cunt at any point I WILL.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Slim » Fri May 07, 2010 8:48 am

lets all have a disco wrote:He is staying so he gets my support,BUT if i deem fit i will debate issues with his management decisions,style,formations and if i want to call him a cunt at any point I WILL.


There is a mile and a halfs distance between debating Mancini's decisions, style, formation, etc and what has happened on here in the last couple of months.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby lets all have a disco » Fri May 07, 2010 8:52 am

Slim wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:He is staying so he gets my support,BUT if i deem fit i will debate issues with his management decisions,style,formations and if i want to call him a cunt at any point I WILL.


There is a mile and a halfs distance between debating Mancini's decisions, style, formation, etc and what has happened on here in the last couple of months.


Nowhere near as bad as other managers weve had,in fairness to Mancini he has a pretty gentle ride IMHO.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Beeks » Fri May 07, 2010 8:53 am

If Mancini is good enough next year he will stay...if he isn't...he will go...why we have to have pages and pages of this shit waffling is beyond me
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Slim » Fri May 07, 2010 8:58 am

lets all have a disco wrote:
Slim wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:He is staying so he gets my support,BUT if i deem fit i will debate issues with his management decisions,style,formations and if i want to call him a cunt at any point I WILL.


There is a mile and a halfs distance between debating Mancini's decisions, style, formation, etc and what has happened on here in the last couple of months.


Nowhere near as bad as other managers weve had,in fairness to Mancini he has a pretty gentle ride IMHO.


All of them tended to get an easy ride, in fact after the shock kneejerk reaction that a rag was in charge of the club passed, Hughes really avoided a lot of criticism until we were beaten by Forest a good six months in. Mancini hasn't even been in the job 6 months yet.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 07, 2010 9:01 am

Slim wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:
Slim wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:He is staying so he gets my support,BUT if i deem fit i will debate issues with his management decisions,style,formations and if i want to call him a cunt at any point I WILL.


There is a mile and a halfs distance between debating Mancini's decisions, style, formation, etc and what has happened on here in the last couple of months.


Nowhere near as bad as other managers weve had,in fairness to Mancini he has a pretty gentle ride IMHO.


All of them tended to get an easy ride, in fact after the shock kneejerk reaction that a rag was in charge of the club passed, Hughes really avoided a lot of criticism until we were beaten by Forest a good six months in. Mancini hasn't even been in the job 6 months yet.


That is exactly spot on. Lot of argument went on in the beginning. Then after Portsmouth it all settled down and only started after Nottingham. At this stage Hughes had been in charge 8 months. Mancini has been here 4 and half months. But hey ho, we want blood and vengeance. Gather the lynch mob.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Slim » Fri May 07, 2010 9:03 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Slim wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:
Slim wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:He is staying so he gets my support,BUT if i deem fit i will debate issues with his management decisions,style,formations and if i want to call him a cunt at any point I WILL.


There is a mile and a halfs distance between debating Mancini's decisions, style, formation, etc and what has happened on here in the last couple of months.


Nowhere near as bad as other managers weve had,in fairness to Mancini he has a pretty gentle ride IMHO.


All of them tended to get an easy ride, in fact after the shock kneejerk reaction that a rag was in charge of the club passed, Hughes really avoided a lot of criticism until we were beaten by Forest a good six months in. Mancini hasn't even been in the job 6 months yet.


That is exactly spot on. Lot of argument went on in the beginning. Then after Portsmouth it all settled down and only started after Nottingham. At this stage Hughes had been in charge 8 months. Mancini has been here 4 and half months. But hey ho, we want blood and vengeance. Gather the lynch mob.


Don't you fucking agree with me, you are an albatross around here at the moment and need to seriously wobble your head, then again so does Ronan and Graham, should put the lot of you in a rubber room and let you have it out.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 07, 2010 9:05 am

Slim wrote:
Don't you fucking agree with me, you are an albatross around here at the moment and need to seriously wobble your head, then again so does Ronan and Graham, should put the lot of you in a rubber room and let you have it out.



I'll agree with whoever I want...... you fucking Dodo.
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