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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Slim » Thu May 06, 2010 3:18 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Fonz_Groanslikeadyke wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Well I know the OP is a bit of a cunt
, but there is no problem with any of our strikers and I'm pretty sure Mancini knows this.

We need a quality central attacking midfielder, be it a revitalised Superman or a new top signing.

At the moment all our link up play has to go through the wings and when we come up against top teams, they concentrate on this and it leaves our strikers having to drop deep and carry the ball to the danger areas, or pass it out wide.

Against top opposition, this tires the strikers and leaves us with little or no options, having to depend on a fuck up.

Adebayor, even more so than Tevez, depends on quality through balls and you've seen what he can do when he gets them.

What we need to do is play a top attacking mid and they, and we, will reap the rewards.


Thanks for highlighting it again mate.

In fairness, you only seem to come on here to piss and moan and have a go at every cunt on the board.

Unless I've got the wrong guy?


So how come you two don't along better then?
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Dazzacity » Thu May 06, 2010 10:17 pm

He is a fookin lazy fooker, though!! He seems to really badly lack in passion and honour. I also get the impression that he thinks he is too big for the club. Sorry, just the vibe I get from him..

Look at the Arsenal game, he was fookin awesome. He didnt do that for us or the club, he done it for himself. Now it looks like he cant be arsed!! Even in the massive games.
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby dazby » Thu May 06, 2010 10:25 pm

He is not lazy. A player that good who has scored that many goals at this level cannot be lazy.
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Renato_CTID » Thu May 06, 2010 11:06 pm

Really not the kind of striker we need! But I fear Mancio won't find any club able to pay a big salary to him, and so ...
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 07, 2010 7:15 am

dazby wrote:He is not lazy. A player that good who has scored that many goals at this level cannot be lazy.


Of course he is lazy. But he is also very good finisher. Which, right now, earns him the place in our line up especially alongside active players like Tevez, Bellamy and Johnson.
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Grob » Fri May 07, 2010 9:49 am

I don't think he's deliberatly lazy, he has a relaxed vibe about him. He puts in a similar ammount of effort to Drogba IMO and noone complains about his workrate.

When he's up there with Tevez and when he's on top form Craig, he's always going to look like he's not working hard.

As for his game, I think he has the potential to be unplayable. But theres something missing from his game. I think our lack of creativity in the middle of the park hampers his game, he's doesnt get many balls put infront of him. But when he does, invariably good comes from it.

Whilst he looks like a target man, he isnt really a target man.

We have a target man sitting on the bench in Santa Cruz, and whilst he's been less than awesome this season with injurys and form, one thing he can definately do is play with his back to goal and bring players into the game.
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Dameerto » Fri May 07, 2010 9:51 am

He's got arguably the best first touch in the Prem - jaw-droppingly good. That goal where he took it in his stride from over his shoulder behind him with one touch then a placed bullet past the keeper - absolutely unreal. I just wish he would do it more often.
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Bluez » Fri May 07, 2010 9:52 am

He has a languid style but will score goals, I would keep him and see how it works out when we get a real creative midfielder. His first touch and close control is sometimes outstanding.
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Dazzacity » Fri May 07, 2010 10:00 am

Grob wrote:I don't think he's deliberatly lazy, he has a relaxed vibe about him. He puts in a similar ammount of effort to Drogba IMO and noone complains about his workrate.

When he's up there with Tevez and when he's on top form Craig, he's always going to look like he's not working hard.

As for his game, I think he has the potential to be unplayable. But theres something missing from his game. I think our lack of creativity in the middle of the park hampers his game, he's doesnt get many balls put infront of him. But when he does, invariably good comes from it.

Whilst he looks like a target man, he isnt really a target man.

We have a target man sitting on the bench in Santa Cruz, and whilst he's been less than awesome this season with injurys and form, one thing he can definately do is play with his back to goal and bring players into the game.



Watch Chelsea's next game .Drog does ten times more runnin around than Ade!! Watch how many tackles he makes in his own area! A Drogba type player is just what we need.
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Grob » Fri May 07, 2010 3:18 pm

Dazzacity wrote:
Grob wrote:I don't think he's deliberatly lazy, he has a relaxed vibe about him. He puts in a similar ammount of effort to Drogba IMO and noone complains about his workrate.

When he's up there with Tevez and when he's on top form Craig, he's always going to look like he's not working hard.

As for his game, I think he has the potential to be unplayable. But theres something missing from his game. I think our lack of creativity in the middle of the park hampers his game, he's doesnt get many balls put infront of him. But when he does, invariably good comes from it.

Whilst he looks like a target man, he isnt really a target man.

We have a target man sitting on the bench in Santa Cruz, and whilst he's been less than awesome this season with injurys and form, one thing he can definately do is play with his back to goal and bring players into the game.



Watch Chelsea's next game .Drog does ten times more runnin around than Ade!! Watch how many tackles he makes in his own area! A Drogba type player is just what we need.


Dickov used to do 10 times more running than anybody else and it never got him anywhere.

Whilst Adebayor doesnt work back as much as Tevez and Craig, he works accross the frontline alot to give players options. The problem he has is that Tevez drops off the line and leaves him out to pasture so to speak. His runs are very intelligent on the whole and his movement top class.

If he's not getting the ball, then he does go into a lull sometimes I admit. But front players thrive off good service. Service he doesnt always receive.
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Slim » Fri May 07, 2010 3:42 pm

25 league games, 14 goals. Better than 1 in 2 striker.

Nuff said.
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 07, 2010 6:52 pm

Slim wrote:25 league games, 14 goals. Better than 1 in 2 striker.

Nuff said.


I agree with Dodo. Strikers are there to score goals. Anything more is nice bonus. I hate strikers who 'work hard' but can't hit the cows arse with banjo.
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Grob » Fri May 07, 2010 9:20 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Slim wrote:25 league games, 14 goals. Better than 1 in 2 striker.

Nuff said.


I agree with Dodo. Strikers are there to score goals. Anything more is nice bonus. I hate strikers who 'work hard' but can't hit the cows arse with banjo.


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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sat May 08, 2010 6:25 am

Grob wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Slim wrote:25 league games, 14 goals. Better than 1 in 2 striker.

Nuff said.


I agree with Dodo. Strikers are there to score goals. Anything more is nice bonus. I hate strikers who 'work hard' but can't hit the cows arse with banjo.


Ahhhhh, Darius and Paul....


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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Grob » Sat May 08, 2010 7:14 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Grob wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Slim wrote:25 league games, 14 goals. Better than 1 in 2 striker.

Nuff said.


I agree with Dodo. Strikers are there to score goals. Anything more is nice bonus. I hate strikers who 'work hard' but can't hit the cows arse with banjo.


Ahhhhh, Darius and Paul....


exactly.


I kind of miss them, they remind me of the good old days when we all hated Pearce and we all liked Sven
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Dubaimancityfan » Sat May 08, 2010 9:15 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Slim wrote:25 league games, 14 goals. Better than 1 in 2 striker.

Nuff said.


I agree with Dodo. Strikers are there to score goals. Anything more is nice bonus. I hate strikers who 'work hard' but can't hit the cows arse with banjo.


Exactly, figures don't lie. In a local Dubai paper today, they put the top 10 goal scoreres of the EPL this season. Tevez was at no 3 with 23 and Ade at no. 9 with 14. Imagine if he had played a full season without the AC and banning interuptions.
Can't understand all these Ade doubters and all those calling for him to be sold (in other posts also) for being "lazy" !! Give me a lazy striker who can score 14 in half a season anytime !
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat May 08, 2010 9:43 am

Ade's a talented lad & to say he's lazy, like some do, is unfair but he doesn't link up particularly well with anyone at this point & doesn't 'put himself about' enough. Crouch scoring for Spurs midweek was the icing on an absolutely fantastic performance. He caused us more problems than two Rooneys & was the difference between the teams. He scared the shit out of us & made Ade look impotent.

I doubt if he'll play many better games or be anywhere near that good very often in the future but for me, if he played like that regularly in our forward line, I wouldn't give a shit how many goals he scored, because we would win most games against just about anyone. Ade could be just as effective but hasn't got the mentality to do it. Doubt he'll learn it now.

Ade will score goals but I'm not sure if we'll find a way of playing around him that's best for the team (we haven't so far with 2 managers) & we may need someone else. Wenger couldn't do it either. Hope Mancini can because Ade has awesome ability but I'll be surprised if he keeps his place throughout next season.

(Robinho also scores goals at a decent rate, as did Rodney Marsh).
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby colonel_muck » Sat May 08, 2010 10:22 am

The OP is well over the top! If anyone was expecting Adebayor to graft away like tevez, they were kidding themselves. The guy has phenomenal ball control and a finish as good as anyone. Who would you replace him with anyway, Torres who spends all his time injured. The truth is we've got our own Torres/Rooney/Drogba with Tevez and if Adebayor can chip in with 15+ goals a season on top of that I'm happy. The guy is so loveable, to me a player so suited to our club it's unbelievable. He'll trot round doing fuck all for a bit then score a goal we'll be talking about for weeks. Also when people have a go at strikers for not working hard, what exactly do they expect? Slide tackles from behind? The thing that does worry me is that he and tevez don't have much understanding together, and if that hasn't gelled after a full season it could be time re-think that partnership. My main criticism of Ade is that he never wins anything in the air which for a player his size is ridiculous. Maybe if there was a better than RSC waiting in the wings it would inspire Ade to try a little harder on the pitch???? But who is good enough to do that and also content to be third choice...
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby dikdik » Sat May 08, 2010 10:23 am

Ted, the Rodney Marsh mention made me think.

My first City match was at his debut in March 1972. Marsh was a brilliant player. He scored goals. He was a fantastic entertainer. But he upset the balance of the Team (some claim he lost City the 72 title but I don't go down that road, although he was a contributing factor. )
I think that to a certain extent Adebayor is of a similar ilk to Marsh.
Ade is a sort of happy Anelka ruthlessly effective when he wants to be but doesn't want to be enough.
The city team IMHO need someone who is more integrated.
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Re: Adebayor - Adecouldntgivafook

Postby Rag_hater » Sat May 08, 2010 10:29 am

I like Ade.It seems to me that if a player smiles whilst he plays he is seen to not give a fuck.That seems very far from the truth.And although I think penalty taking is a brave thing to have to do for any player to me it is one of the easiest ways a striker will increase his goal tally. Without the pens Carlos has taken this year(6 I think) his goal scoring is not much better in the prem than Ade.
I think Ade is better striker than Carlos.The rest of his game I dont think is but I think his ability to score is.
This charge that is levelled at him by some that he is lazy and couldntgivafuck is incorrect from what I see.
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