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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby Renato_CTID » Mon May 10, 2010 10:47 am

My own opinion is that Steve is the best midfielder or English modern football. Gerrard at Eastlands? Why not!
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby BlueinBosnia » Mon May 10, 2010 10:50 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
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BlueinBosnia wrote:No purchases from any team in the top 8-10 of the Prem for me, if they're costing over the odds.


A very bizarre idea.

With the debt Liverpool are in £40m for Gerrard wont solve it, and it would probably kick the arse out of them.

Personally I'd have Ashley Young from Villa, and numerous other players from teams in the top 8 of the prem if we could get them - Anybody from Evertons midfield would improve us in Pienaar, Cahill, Arteta and Rodwell for a start.


The problem is, other managers are probably able to pick up bargains for the money we give them. Young would be a good buy, but we'll have to pay considerably over £30m for him, whereas his true value is around £14-16m. Villa can replace him and also get 3-4 top notch squad players for that kind of money. At the moment their squad isn't big enough to cope with a league, 2 cups and a European competition, but with that kind of money it soon will be.

Moyes has proven competent in the transfer market. The price we payed for Lescott will come back and bite us at some point in the next 2-3 years, I fear. Any more dealings we have with them will multiply the power of it exponentially.

Liverpool don't have money, but there's no guarantee funds won't be made available for purchases directly from sale profits, to improve the immediate package available to a potential buyer. Who'd want to buy a big-money club outside of the transfer window once they've sold off their best assets? Due to the complexities of the club's owners not talking to one another, and the size of the club, negotiations are going to take a long, long time.


i dont rate anybody's chances of getting Ashley Young for £14-£16m, that valuation needs a reality check.
As for paying over the odds, we are City; we haven't won a carrott for over 30 plus years and we aren't peddling Champions League football. Untill we win anything we will be paying over the odds in wages and fees for almost every player we sign, thats the real world we are in.


Absolutely. If my memory serves me they forked out something like 10m to buy him from Watford. No chance whatsoever he'd be available to ANYONE for anything less than 25m. For us 30 or 35m maybe.


I didn't say they'd sell him for that price, merely what his true value was. I agree that we will be paying over the odds whoever we buy, but it would be best to pay it to clubs who aren't direct competitors, ie those in other leagues. Yes, we finished 5th this year, but only 3 points ahead of Villa, and they progressed further than us in both cups, with a small squad. I think that £30-35m (or more) in investment could help them push further on all fronts and easily overtake us. Basically, the more money we throw around the top half of the Premiership, the longer it will take for us to pull clear of the rest and keep ourselves firmly embedded in the top 4.
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby Wooders » Mon May 10, 2010 10:55 am

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dazby wrote:Not welcome at our club. Too old, too crocked. His heart wouldn't be in it.
totally agree, he would treat as an opportunity to make a killing financially


which, of course, it would be. He also has pride and a strong desire to add a premier league winners medal to his considerable collection, that isn’t happening at Liverpool
Signing him would also give us more options in the transfer market, who wouldn’t fancy lining up with Tevez and Gerrard???
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon May 10, 2010 10:57 am

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dazby wrote:Not welcome at our club. Too old, too crocked. His heart wouldn't be in it.
totally agree, he would treat as an opportunity to make a killing financially


which, of course, it would be. He also has pride and a strong desire to add a premier league winners medal to his considerable collection, that isn’t happening at LiverpoolSigning him would also give us more options in the transfer market, who wouldn’t fancy lining up with Tevez and Gerrard???


I'd count on that. Whatever people think about him, no one can say that he has been nothing but model professional and never-say-die player throughout his career. I don't think his standards would drop much at all.
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby mr_nool » Mon May 10, 2010 11:17 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
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dazby wrote:Not welcome at our club. Too old, too crocked. His heart wouldn't be in it.
totally agree, he would treat as an opportunity to make a killing financially


which, of course, it would be. He also has pride and a strong desire to add a premier league winners medal to his considerable collection, that isn’t happening at LiverpoolSigning him would also give us more options in the transfer market, who wouldn’t fancy lining up with Tevez and Gerrard???


I'd count on that. Whatever people think about him, no one can say that he has been nothing but model professional and never-say-die player throughout his career. I don't think his standards would drop much at all.


He didn't look that professional when he tried to smack that little kid during the pitch invasion on Sunday, though. But I didn't really see what happened. What did the kid do to Gerrard? Anyone knows?
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby cityPinoy_fc » Mon May 10, 2010 11:20 am

i would definitely take him it would be ridiculous not to BUT at the right price. i feel he still has enough in his tank at the top level.
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby Wooders » Mon May 10, 2010 11:26 am

why's everyone worried about the cost?
We're not paying
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby BlueinBosnia » Mon May 10, 2010 11:34 am

Wooders wrote:why's everyone worried about the cost?
We're not paying


Would you give someone who's applying for the same job as you money to buy a suit for the interview?
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby Wooders » Mon May 10, 2010 11:41 am

BlueinBosnia wrote:
Wooders wrote:why's everyone worried about the cost?
We're not paying


Would you give someone who's applying for the same job as you money to buy a suit for the interview?


If it made no difference to me getting the job I would (if I was as rich as the sheik!)
I don't understand your fear of paying other teams for players? We're still gonna build a fantastic team
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby Slim » Mon May 10, 2010 11:44 am

Wooders wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
Wooders wrote:why's everyone worried about the cost?
We're not paying


Would you give someone who's applying for the same job as you money to buy a suit for the interview?


If it made no difference to me getting the job I would (if I was as rich as the sheik!)
I don't understand your fear of paying other teams for players? We're still gonna build a fantastic team


I would rather not dump a shedload of cash into Liverpool's bank account so they can go out and rebuild a very poor squad. They will find a couple of gems from Spain and Portugal with the money we would give them and come bounding back to the top4 making our job just that much harder.

Rather they kept their overpriced team of two and continued their plummet down the ranks.
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby One cap Whitey » Mon May 10, 2010 11:45 am

I would have him if available. I think he'd fit nicely in to our team and is still one of the best midfielder players in the Prem.

I'm not bothered what it might mean for Liverpool or any other team. We just need to concentrate on strengthening our team and then winning our games when the season starts. As long as we're doing that it doesn't matter what happens elsewhere.
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby Beeks » Mon May 10, 2010 11:47 am

Slim wrote:[

I would rather not dump a shedload of cash into Liverpool's bank account.


I don't think 40 mil would scratch the surface to be honest Slim...unless we bought Torres too...but Benitez has spunked loads of cash in the past and bought absolute shite...so i'd still be comfortable with it ;-)
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby Slim » Mon May 10, 2010 11:49 am

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I would rather not dump a shedload of cash into Liverpool's bank account.


I don't think 40 mil would scratch the surface to be honest Slim...unless we bought Torres too...but Benitez has spunked loads of cash in the past and bought absolute shite...so i'd still be comfortable with it ;-)


Fine, then with £40M they could fuck Benitez off, even worse for us than them losing StevieG and Torres.
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby Wooders » Mon May 10, 2010 11:49 am

you can't just go and "replace" the likes of gerrard with 40 million quid, and from what I hear about liverpools financial state, 40 million will be going straight to the bank rather than allowing rafa to sign more turkeys (he's had a decent budget has rafa, and built this god-awful squad with it don't forget)
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby ashton287 » Mon May 10, 2010 11:50 am

NO, waste of time and money just like Vieira. We need young pacey players that can develop not old cunts ambling about the pitch
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby Slim » Mon May 10, 2010 11:52 am

Wooders wrote:you can't just go and "replace" the likes of gerrard with 40 million quid, and from what I hear about liverpools financial state, 40 million will be going straight to the bank rather than allowing rafa to sign more turkeys (he's had a decent budget has rafa, and built this god-awful squad with it don't forget)


It's not a case of replacing the player, their side needs an entire rebuild and they wouldn't spunk away £40M on one player, they would buy some talented kids and wait.
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby BlueinBosnia » Mon May 10, 2010 11:52 am

Slim wrote:
Wooders wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
Wooders wrote:why's everyone worried about the cost?
We're not paying


Would you give someone who's applying for the same job as you money to buy a suit for the interview?


If it made no difference to me getting the job I would (if I was as rich as the sheik!)
I don't understand your fear of paying other teams for players? We're still gonna build a fantastic team


I would rather not dump a shedload of cash into Liverpool's bank account so they can go out and rebuild a very poor squad. They will find a couple of gems from Spain and Portugal with the money we would give them and come bounding back to the top4 making our job just that much harder.


Exactly the same viewpoint here, but also for Villa. They had an equally good season to, if not better than, us, with a much smaller squad. Large money for Young would allow them to increase squad size and maintain quality.

Furthermore, Everton are an unreckoned force. An injury-free season, plus an extra 20-or-so million, and who knows where they'll be?

I just don't think we should give silly money to clubs who, for the time being at least, are still our direct competitors.
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby Wooders » Mon May 10, 2010 11:52 am

ashton287 wrote:NO, waste of time and money just like Vieira. We need young pacey players that can develop not old cunts ambling about the pitch


Ireland ?
We're already got a few of those mate. We need experience and drive. Gerrard still has it in spades.
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon May 10, 2010 11:53 am

Wooders wrote:you can't just go and "replace" the likes of gerrard with 40 million quid, and from what I hear about liverpools financial state, 40 million will be going straight to the bank rather than allowing rafa to sign more turkeys (he's had a decent budget has rafa, and built this god-awful squad with it don't forget)


Couldn't agree more. Gerrard is heart and soul of that team and no matter how many Aquilani's he signs for that money, none of them can replace him.

And couldn't agree more about Benitez squad building. Has bought bunch of homers over the years for absolutely ridiculous money. He'd only go and buy dozen bulk players for that money even if the money was given to him. Which it will not be.
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Re: Stevie Geraaaaaaard

Postby Buffalo Soldier » Mon May 10, 2010 12:17 pm

Anybody who wouldn't sign gerrard needs a serious fucking reality check about where we are in our development.

He's had a poor season by his standards, but that's more to do with the shit he's playing alongside and he's streets ahead of anything we currently have. Exactly the type of player and menality we need to kick on.

Having said that, I don't think we've got a cat in hells chance of signing him.
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