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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Crossie » Tue May 25, 2010 12:23 pm

Where is that info from about Irelands mates saying he is happy etc? I cant see it on bluegoon
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Geo123 » Tue May 25, 2010 1:20 pm

He has said after the season this is his club and he has a job to do, mancini said he wants him therefore there is no problem,

he has most definately not handed in a transfer request, neither has his agent on his behalf and he has not sourced any new suitors.

Billy shears is actually very reliable.

and to those of you who bring up that hughes interview watch the bloody interview, he blaimed being played out of position which he has done whenever he has been played out of position not the manager directly, never did he question any of his tehniques or ability to get the best out of him.
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Geo123 » Tue May 25, 2010 1:24 pm

Crossie wrote:Where is that info from about Irelands mates saying he is happy etc? I cant see it on bluegoon


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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Im_Spartacus » Tue May 25, 2010 2:55 pm

Geo123 wrote:He has said after the season this is his club and he has a job to do, mancini said he wants him therefore there is no problem,

he has most definately not handed in a transfer request, neither has his agent on his behalf and he has not sourced any new suitors.

Billy shears is actually very reliable.

and to those of you who bring up that hughes interview watch the bloody interview, he blaimed being played out of position which he has done whenever he has been played out of position not the manager directly, never did he question any of his tehniques or ability to get the best out of him.


It wasnt about him playing out of position, it was about him being asked to perform a slightly more involved role in the centre of midfield. That is very different to playing out of position - it is about him being able to adapt to different tactics - something all good players are able to do.

At the end of the day Elano got binned because he wouldnt do his shift for the team, and I strongly suspect that had Hughes still been here, d-day would be close for Ireland for exactly the same reason, because under Hughes he was simply been asked to tweak his role slightly, and after Hughes had gone, pretty much whinged like a bitch about how it is everyone elses fault but his own that he has played shit this season - yet carried on playing shit under the new gaffer.

The omens werent good, as from what I could see, Mancini was asking the same thing of him that Hughes did, so he was indirectly taking a swipe at Mancini too.

The lad needs to man up, needs to learn the different things being asked of him because the fact is, neither Hughes nor Mancini were prepared to build a team around him, and therefore he is back to where he was with Sven. I'd love him to stay, but he needs to realise that the world doesnt revolve around him until the day he is good enough to be that first name on the team sheet.

If a club is prepared to do that for him, i'd let him go - but he will then have a career fighting for league cups, as he will never get what he wants at a big club
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Grob » Tue May 25, 2010 6:05 pm

I dont believe Ireland has asked for a transfer. I think he'll come back next season with a point to prove.

Stephen Ireland is an excellent player when confident. He must stay.
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Original Dub » Tue May 25, 2010 6:10 pm

Grob wrote:I dont believe Ireland has asked for a transfer. I think he'll come back next season with a point to prove.

Stephen Ireland is an excellent player when confident. He must stay.


Now you said it chief. Judging by how happy and determined he was all last season, I'd imagine this season has disappointed nobody more than it has him.
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 25, 2010 7:29 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Grob wrote:I dont believe Ireland has asked for a transfer. I think he'll come back next season with a point to prove.

Stephen Ireland is an excellent player when confident. He must stay.


Now you said it chief. Judging by how happy and determined he was all last season, I'd imagine this season has disappointed nobody more than it has him.


why no abuse?
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue May 25, 2010 7:45 pm

johnpb78 wrote:
Geo123 wrote:He has said after the season this is his club and he has a job to do, mancini said he wants him therefore there is no problem,

he has most definately not handed in a transfer request, neither has his agent on his behalf and he has not sourced any new suitors.

Billy shears is actually very reliable.

and to those of you who bring up that hughes interview watch the bloody interview, he blaimed being played out of position which he has done whenever he has been played out of position not the manager directly, never did he question any of his tehniques or ability to get the best out of him.


It wasnt about him playing out of position, it was about him being asked to perform a slightly more involved role in the centre of midfield. That is very different to playing out of position - it is about him being able to adapt to different tactics - something all good players are able to do.

At the end of the day Elano got binned because he wouldnt do his shift for the team, and I strongly suspect that had Hughes still been here, d-day would be close for Ireland for exactly the same reason, because under Hughes he was simply been asked to tweak his role slightly, and after Hughes had gone, pretty much whinged like a bitch about how it is everyone elses fault but his own that he has played shit this season - yet carried on playing shit under the new gaffer.

The omens werent good, as from what I could see, Mancini was asking the same thing of him that Hughes did, so he was indirectly taking a swipe at Mancini too.

The lad needs to man up, needs to learn the different things being asked of him because the fact is, neither Hughes nor Mancini were prepared to build a team around him, and therefore he is back to where he was with Sven. I'd love him to stay, but he needs to realise that the world doesnt revolve around him until the day he is good enough to be that first name on the team sheet.

If a club is prepared to do that for him, i'd let him go - but he will then have a career fighting for league cups, as he will never get what he wants at a big club



No one will ever build a team around Ireland. That's the saddest thing if he does go; he'll just have to play where he's told at another club rather than City & if he puts his mind to it rather than sulking, he'll be fucking brilliant at it. He'll either realise it & knuckle down or disappear. Imagine him telling Ferguson or Wenger or even Steve Bruce or Moyes he doesn't fancy a particular job? Not going to happen. If he goes, we'll be watching him probably excelling at the very same job he refuses to do for us.
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Original Dub » Tue May 25, 2010 9:54 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Grob wrote:I dont believe Ireland has asked for a transfer. I think he'll come back next season with a point to prove.

Stephen Ireland is an excellent player when confident. He must stay.


Now you said it chief. Judging by how happy and determined he was all last season, I'd imagine this season has disappointed nobody more than it has him.


why no abuse?


Because he's not a whinging fuckwit on a wind up?
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed May 26, 2010 3:48 am

Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Grob wrote:I dont believe Ireland has asked for a transfer. I think he'll come back next season with a point to prove.

Stephen Ireland is an excellent player when confident. He must stay.


Now you said it chief. Judging by how happy and determined he was all last season, I'd imagine this season has disappointed nobody more than it has him.


why no abuse?


Because he's not a whinging fuckwit on a wind up?


I wasn't on a wind up which very mellow opening post clearly showed. It contained lot of subjects dealt individually around the board and as excellent replies by Lytham and Bob on this topic (meant for the other one) showed that there was a need for such topic. Until you came and ruined it AGAIN.

And yes, you have to keep some consistency of what you abuse people for. Otherwise some people might think that you are only on a wind up yourself trying to cause mayhem. But that can't surely be the case? So go on and abuse Grob.
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby JamieMCFC » Wed May 26, 2010 4:06 am

I wonder if it would help for Stevie to see a sports psychologist. I think he has all the physically ability in the world to be one of the best in the world. But I just question whether he has it in him mentally to do it.
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Nickyboy » Wed May 26, 2010 6:35 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Grob wrote:I dont believe Ireland has asked for a transfer. I think he'll come back next season with a point to prove.

Stephen Ireland is an excellent player when confident. He must stay.


Now you said it chief. Judging by how happy and determined he was all last season, I'd imagine this season has disappointed nobody more than it has him.


why no abuse?


Because he's not a whinging fuckwit on a wind up?


I wasn't on a wind up which very mellow opening post clearly showed. It contained lot of subjects dealt individually around the board and as excellent replies by Lytham and Bob on this topic (meant for the other one) showed that there was a need for such topic. Until you came and ruined it AGAIN.

And yes, you have to keep some consistency of what you abuse people for. Otherwise some people might think that you are only on a wind up yourself trying to cause mayhem. But that can't surely be the case? So go on and abuse Grob.
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Dameerto » Wed May 26, 2010 6:42 am

JamieMCFC wrote:I wonder if it would help for Stevie to see a sports psychologist. I think he has all the physically ability in the world to be one of the best in the world. But I just question whether he has it in him mentally to do it.


Every club should have one in my view - given how important psychology is in football. (just look at 'home advantage' if you are skeptical) Some managers are unofficial 'psychologists' which could explain some of their success - it also underlines the importance of communication and a common language between players and staff.
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby edge275 » Wed May 26, 2010 9:28 pm

If Ireland isn't complying then he can fuck off. Same for everybody else as well.
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby gillie » Wed May 26, 2010 9:34 pm

edge275 wrote:If Ireland isn't complying then he can fuck off. Same for everybody else as well.

As ever Edge very succinct of you.
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby irblinx » Wed May 26, 2010 11:04 pm

edge275 wrote:If Ireland isn't complying then he can fuck off. Same for everybody else as well.


You know that sports psychologist role ......
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby btajim » Thu May 27, 2010 12:49 pm

JamieMCFC wrote:I wonder if it would help for Stevie to see a sports psychologist. I think he has all the physically ability in the world to be one of the best in the world. But I just question whether he has it in him mentally to do it.


I don't think any kind of psychologist could make Ireland have the mental ability to do anything. He's just plain thick.
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Slim » Thu May 27, 2010 12:52 pm

Have we actually got a quote from Ireland on this yet? If there isn't a single quote on the subject then I'd be more convinced of media bullshit.
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 27, 2010 1:01 pm

Slim wrote:Have we actually got a quote from Ireland on this yet? If there isn't a single quote on the subject then I'd be more convinced of media bullshit.


Is it possible that he is in Bahama's with his missus like all the footballers who aren't preparing for the World Cup?
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Re: Ireland: "I want out"

Postby Slim » Thu May 27, 2010 1:06 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Slim wrote:Have we actually got a quote from Ireland on this yet? If there isn't a single quote on the subject then I'd be more convinced of media bullshit.


Is it possible that he is in Bahama's with his missus like all the footballers who aren't preparing for the World Cup?


If I was a player in this media circus I would go on holiday somewhere away from the fishbowl while all this shit was going on too.
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