Do You Have Faith In Robert Mancini?

[sandman]

I do, but my biggest worry is you overly positive people who will be slagging him off at xmas if we're in 5th spot. I believe we will finish top 4, I also believe we will see at least a final, but I also believe that our squad are only capable of winning anything on a good day, we still have some grey areas that need strengthening and we need more class on the bench to endure such a long season.

In summary, I despise threads like these as they only cause over confidence leading to slander as soon as we dont overachieve, I am not getting over excited this season, but this time next year I will be anticipating.

[Beefymcfc]

I do, but my biggest worry is you overly positive people who will be slagging him off at xmas if we're in 5th spot. I believe we will finish top 4, I also believe we will see at least a final, but I also believe that our squad are only capable of winning anything on a good day, we still have some grey areas that need strengthening and we need more class on the bench to endure such a long season.

In summary, I despise threads like these as they only cause over confidence leading to slander as soon as we dont overachieve, I am not getting over excited this season, but this time next year I will be anticipating.

It's not to raise expectations, as you'll see my previous post. If people have concerns, which I have, then I would rather raise them here in order to counteract the 'Over Confidence' and possibly highlight areas that surely need to be covered.

You say that you despise the raising of confidence, but state that we will get a final and top 4 - what gives?

[DoomMerchant]

i think Mancini is probably one of the top 20 coaches in world club football. And we are one of the Top 20 clubs in world football. I think it's a fit that i hope works for a while and that we see each other as one of the top 6 sides in the world in about 3-4 years. If not, the next person will be expected to achieve that.

BTW i don't expect him to play a more attacking style this season. he's going to play his game the way he wants it played. Enough flair and skill on the pitch to make the chances we get count, but nothing extravagant. What we saw Mourinho do at Chelsea or Inter is probably the most likely way we'll be playing. Building from the back, with some world-class attacking options, but they won't be running free off the bridle as often as we saw under Hughes. Which does bother me. As much stick as Hughes got i never, never felt like we were out of any match and it was really really fun stuff to watch. Mancini will put me in the snoozer a few times this season i am sure, but i hope he has enough 1-0 away wins to make this season one for the ages. YAWN. Bring on the new season and the bore-fest!!

cheers

[Beeks]

You only have to look at Mancios record as a manager to know this guy is no mug

He will come good..cream always rises to the top

[MaineRoadMemories]

I have faith that we will get into the Champions League this season under Mancini but I don't have faith that he will be able to win the league anytime soon.

He has shown far too much respect to the big teams, we hardly scored any goals against them last time out, and when you are trying to win the league you can't afford to lose more than 3 or 4 games.

His appointment of coaches has really disappointed me; we should be attracting far better coaches than Platt and Lombardo. It's unfair to comment on the transfer strategy as he is only one voice in a committee of 5 so signings cannot be said to be his success or his failure.

A lot can change from one season to the next but Mancini for me is our Ranieri - he'll do well, maybe even win us our first trophy, but ultimately be replaced by someone to take us to the very top level.

It will be an enjoyable season and a recording breaking finish in the premier league regardless. Third position and a cup has to be our deliverable for 2010/11.

[Goataldo]

Impossible to have complete faith in him, as ultimately, he failed last season. Sounds snide, as he came in late on and tried his best, but surely this is how the board must view it? As I see it, he was brought in in a daft way so that we'd definitely qualify for the Chumps , and it didn't work. Now we're back at taht awkward stage where a newish manager is trying to build his own team. AGAIN. It's precarious. It's typical. And therefore, it's potentially embarrassing.

I like his signings. I quite like Him, but it's far too early for me to pin a badge of complete faith on the guy. I'm not slagging him off - I, as much as anyone here, am desperate for him to succeed. But if we were to get rid of players like Bellamy, to close rivals such as Tottenham Ihatespurs, I'd have to question his common sense. I keep thinking, if I was, for example, Yaya Toure (nothing to lose, nothing to prove), would I really be trying as hard as someone like Craig Bellamy? Not only in crunch games, but away to someone horrible, average, and negative, in a pea-souper on a foul January evening.

I think it'll take him a bit of time to get the balance right, if he does at all. He's no mug, he's got winning pedigree, so there's no reason he can't succeed given what's avaiulable to him. Problem is whether he'll have the time to figure it out. Mark 'the best man for the job' Hughes got short shrift when our 'trajectory' lapsed, so never mind our faith in Mancini, what faith do you have in the board keeping him on in the midst of a Hughes-style plateau? The benefits of being a billionare's plaything depends on what sort of game the billionares are playing. (I know you read this Khaldoon and the boys - I'm only playing devil's advocate i bloody love you guys!)

I do think we can and should make progress on last season, logic says we have a better squad and with more to come so therefore we must. But expectations are off the scale, the hype is like a whirlwind already, and as mentioned above, the media will be waiting in droves and loving it if we don't start convincingly.

In short, I want to have faith, but seeing is believing. I can't wait to see us play, and be convinced.

[brite blu sky]

a lot of thoughts about how it will go reflect more about the posters attitude than anything. But all valid. Truth is no-one knows, not even Mancini or the players as they are playing. So there may be a bit of wishful thinking and bit of dampening expectaions so as not to be dissapointed. But Bobby is going to dictate the rythm as much as anyone. Im holding out that he wishes to play attacking footie and is trying to get the personnel that will help give the team confidence to deliver that. There is something missing yet, but lets see who else turns up and then see what we look like we have got.
i am certainly not underestimating Mancini's desire to put a dent in Tottenham. And i wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of last years team face them, maybe only 1 of the new signings. But equally i wouldn't be shocked if he played them all. And that is what i mean by revealing a bit more of his attitude. I wouldn't expect him to gamble anything in the quest to knobble Spurs, so what he does so is going to be interesting and also based on the next 3 weeks or so.

[Mike J]

he needs to get the balance of the defence and attack right. then we will be shit hot.

last season at times he was far to cautious.

[BobKowalski]

Tbh I'm not going to be making any judgements on Mancini's or the team's abilities until well into the season. Getting new players to gel sometimes doesn't work for a long time so I'll reserve judgement until we've had chance to see the ups & downs that the season brings.

Some great replies and I'd say the majority are pretty confident in Mancio, however, I have picked yours to reply to Ted because I've just popped out and was listening to TalkSport in the car. I'm not sure who was on (think it was Saggers and Custis) and they were quite complimentary of us but expressed a concern that due to the large squad and the ego's that come with it, then Mancio may have problems. A Spuds fan then phoned in slating the signings and hoped that come the start of the season, our team will be found out (Spuds, Dippers and Sunderland) and our Empire will fall down around our ears.

Now, it maybe the 'Typical City' tag that makes me a little concerned that all this may just go that way and that the team takes a long time to bond, making it very hard for Mancio to do his job in a reasonable and sensible manner. If we do get off to an indifferent start, the pressure is going to be heaped on us, and if it continues, will we be back to square one with the manager?

Taking up your point about back to square one with the manager I don't think so. I am nervous about our opening games so I am half expecting an indifferent start. I am also expecting forums to go into meltdown and the press to be piling on the pressure but I am not expecting the board to go into panic mode. Firstly there is a greater team aspect about us at the moment as shown by our current transfer strategy/acquisitions which has taken what we did last year to a whole new level. Mancini has integrated very well with the people around him and happily buys in to the way the people at the top want City to be run. In view of this I think there will be a greater solidarity and unity behind the scenes if we are not firing on all cylinders in the first 6 games or so. Secondly Mancini is the first manager ADUG have appointed so it is going to take something cataclysmic to make them admit they have made a mistake so they will back him through some very heavy pressure (they did back Hughes in his first season despite some pretty awful results and a disappointing season finish). Thirdly unless we are staring relegation in the face (which ain't going to happen) there will be no mid-season sackings. Having done it once I can't see them going through that shit again.

Mancini will get at least one full season albeit with some drama along the way.. If he gets (which he will in my opinion) a top 4 spot that will buy him another season. After that it is anybody's guess.

[Ted Hughes]

Tbh I'm not going to be making any judgements on Mancini's or the team's abilities until well into the season. Getting new players to gel sometimes doesn't work for a long time so I'll reserve judgement until we've had chance to see the ups & downs that the season brings.

Some great replies and I'd say the majority are pretty confident in Mancio, however, I have picked yours to reply to Ted because I've just popped out and was listening to TalkSport in the car. I'm not sure who was on (think it was Saggers and Custis) and they were quite complimentary of us but expressed a concern that due to the large squad and the ego's that come with it, then Mancio may have problems. A Spuds fan then phoned in slating the signings and hoped that come the start of the season, our team will be found out (Spuds, Dippers and Sunderland) and our Empire will fall down around our ears.

Now, it maybe the 'Typical City' tag that makes me a little concerned that all this may just go that way and that the team takes a long time to bond, making it very hard for Mancio to do his job in a reasonable and sensible manner. If we do get off to an indifferent start, the pressure is going to be heaped on us, and if it continues, will we be back to square one with the manager?

I was listening to those fucking morons on the radio too (one quoting Ferguson as saying Silva's too slow!!!)

Unless there's a complete disaster, I think they'll let Mancini battle through any tough spells. I think if we'd signed Ibrahimovic at 28 yrs old for lots of money & he was shite then Mancini's neck would have been on the block but I've been thinking about Balotelli & he fits the profile of the kind of player we're supposed to be after to suit the 'project' so it's probably not just Mancini but Marwood & Co who want him. Anyway, Mancini's their man & Hughes wasn't, that's the key I recon.

I don't think it'll take Mancini long to get us up & running but I'm not 100% confident about the 1st few games because of this World Cup bollox ruining pre season for some of our players. I think he's working with the established players right now to try & solve that though & the players who come in will be used to playing in the formations he's going to use (if the Portland game is a guide)

I can see possible ups & downs but mainly ups!

[Sister of fu]

jury,s still out !

^^^This. I just dont know. Come back to me in 12 months and i may have an answer.

[dazby]

I don't have faith but I do have hope.

[simon12]

At the moment yes..If he buys Donavan, no.

[DoomMerchant]

At the moment yes..If he buys Donavan, no.

a complete joke of a post. if it's that fragile for you then you surely aren't even paying attention, or don't care.

thanks.

[simon12]

At the moment yes..If he buys Donavan, no.

a complete joke of a post. if it's that fragile for you then you surely aren't even paying attention, or don't care.

thanks.

Sarcasm Doom. I actually do have faith. I posted in another thread what Mancini said on sky and it`s miles from what`s being reported. He will not buy donovan, so I am not worried. I have faith as I think he will/is bringing in players who will play for him and who he thinks he can control. I also beleive due to the type of players he is REALLY in the market for are more attack minded so we will have less mind numbing displays (against so called better teams) than we had last season. I also feel he will evovle and adapt to management in this country and carry the team with him as I think he knows he was overcautious against scum but knows how to spank lesser teams. He knows the prem and his name is enough to get him respect off young players of today.

Good night mate.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I do, but my biggest worry is you overly positive people who will be slagging him off at xmas if we're in 5th spot. I believe we will finish top 4, I also believe we will see at least a final, but I also believe that our squad are only capable of winning anything on a good day, we still have some grey areas that need strengthening and we need more class on the bench to endure such a long season.

In summary, I despise threads like these as they only cause over confidence leading to slander as soon as we dont overachieve, I am not getting over excited this season, but this time next year I will be anticipating.

Sandman - you are fucking over excited mate..dont deny it. All us City Fans are over excited...Im so excited Im fucking jisming off every time I see what players we are in for and the players we have already signed.......jism every fucking where.

Its every man city fans duty to jism off and get more excited than ever before..fuck next season..this season is the bestest ever, ever fucking ever Ive seen in my 44 yrs on this planet.everyopne hates us...opposing fans are shitting it ....but us lot are loooooooooooooooooooooooooving it mate.....fuck them all and let's jism on everyone.

Im pissed by the way.

[SORTED]

I do, but my biggest worry is you overly positive people who will be slagging him off at xmas if we're in 5th spot. I believe we will finish top 4, I also believe we will see at least a final, but I also believe that our squad are only capable of winning anything on a good day, we still have some grey areas that need strengthening and we need more class on the bench to endure such a long season.

In summary, I despise threads like these as they only cause over confidence leading to slander as soon as we dont overachieve, I am not getting over excited this season, but this time next year I will be anticipating.

Sandman - you are fucking over excited mate..dont deny it. All us City Fans are over excited...Im so excited Im fucking jisming off every time I see what players we are in for and the players we have already signed.......jism every fucking where.

Its every man city fans duty to jism off and get more excited than ever before..fuck next season..this season is the bestest ever, ever fucking ever Ive seen in my 44 yrs on this planet.everyopne hates us...opposing fans are shitting it ....but us lot are loooooooooooooooooooooooooving it mate.....fuck them all and let's jism on everyone.

Im pissed by the way.

Jistastic post Carl!

[sandman]

I do, but my biggest worry is you overly positive people who will be slagging him off at xmas if we're in 5th spot. I believe we will finish top 4, I also believe we will see at least a final, but I also believe that our squad are only capable of winning anything on a good day, we still have some grey areas that need strengthening and we need more class on the bench to endure such a long season.

In summary, I despise threads like these as they only cause over confidence leading to slander as soon as we dont overachieve, I am not getting over excited this season, but this time next year I will be anticipating.

Sandman - you are fucking over excited mate..dont deny it. All us City Fans are over excited...Im so excited Im fucking jisming off every time I see what players we are in for and the players we have already signed.......jism every fucking where.

Its every man city fans duty to jism off and get more excited than ever before..fuck next season..this season is the bestest ever, ever fucking ever Ive seen in my 44 yrs on this planet.everyopne hates us...opposing fans are shitting it ....but us lot are loooooooooooooooooooooooooving it mate.....fuck them all and let's jism on everyone.

Im pissed by the way.

Believe me I'm excited, just not over excited, i'm already seeing signs of people raising their expectations to us winning the title, I dont think thats reasonable when we're not even in the top 4? When I compare the squad we have to the squad we had just after Keegan left it almost makes me horny!!

[sandman]

You say that you despise the raising of confidence, but state that we will get a final and top 4 - what gives?

Because thats not over confidence, thats common sense. I got this excited under Sven and when it all went pear shaped I was gutted, we signed Robinho and I was raving, then he under performed and the club looked stupid, then I thought Mark Hughes did a lot to improve the club off the field but didnt do anything spectacular on the field, again nothing to rave about. I cant see us winning the title yet its all I hear about now?

[salford city]

We've gotta have faith. He's had his first chance to get in who he wants and he's looked to address the fullback positions straight away. Both Boateng (and potentially Kolarov) are attacking fullbacks that will give us more going forward whilst being an improvement defensively on what we had. Everyone keeps trotting out the uber defensive approach from last season and whilst I agree to some extent, we were shite defensively upto Christmas and he looked to address this asap. I'm expecting big things from him this season, I don't expect him to conquer the world but I do expect him to set us up with a more fluid system.

We can't do anything about the shite that everyone outside of the club says about us - the majority of it is jealousy and a fair bit of concern. What we can do is stick together and enjoy the ride