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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby lets all have a disco » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:17 am

I just want to see our best player back and the other mere 70 millions worth of players back.

I just hope the club have got a lot out of the American adventure team wise i dont think its been all that and far too long.
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:23 am

9secondlegend wrote:i think one reason why everyone is so dissapointed is because friendlies these days are so high profile and we dont like getting shown up on the world stage. if it wasnt on tv and we lost to some swedish team although some would still be pissed off i dont the reactions would be half as bad


Whatever spin anyone puts on it, top teams don't usually look as poor in freindlies as City have. Occasionally yes but 4 games on the trot? Absolutely not. That's a fact whether people like it or not.
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby Grob » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:24 am

The referee of course ruined the match with the sending off but i cannot see how half heartedly chasing inter aroud the pitch for 90 minutes was of any benefit.
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby 9secondlegend » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:43 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
9secondlegend wrote:i think one reason why everyone is so dissapointed is because friendlies these days are so high profile and we dont like getting shown up on the world stage. if it wasnt on tv and we lost to some swedish team although some would still be pissed off i dont the reactions would be half as bad


Whatever spin anyone puts on it, top teams don't usually look as poor in freindlies as City have. Occasionally yes but 4 games on the trot? Absolutely not. That's a fact whether people like it or not.
dont get me wrong , i was pissed off AGAIN with the performance last night but i seem to remember back in the season we got promoted we lost every game pre season. im sure it was that year.
it is very worrying but to be honest who actually thought we were going to go over and everything would run smoothly with great performances and loads of goals. this is city , it doesnt happen like that.
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:59 am

Mark Hughes actually has something to say on this matter.

About one minute into this video:

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/Video/Interviews/HughesGersCeltic

And in the beginning of the video:

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/Video/Interviews/Hughes-on-the-Celtic-game
"I used to be 6 foot 2 with curly hair, look what it's done to me"

"In my career so far it's the most important goal. You score the goal in the last minute to win the title. You're not sure if that's ever going to happen in your career again. I wish I could tell you how I did it but I can't. I thought for all the world that Mario was going to have a go himself but he just moved it on one more and it fell at my feet and I just thought: 'Hit the target, hit it as hard as you can and hit the target.' And it went in."
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:43 am

9secondlegend wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
9secondlegend wrote:i think one reason why everyone is so dissapointed is because friendlies these days are so high profile and we dont like getting shown up on the world stage. if it wasnt on tv and we lost to some swedish team although some would still be pissed off i dont the reactions would be half as bad


Whatever spin anyone puts on it, top teams don't usually look as poor in freindlies as City have. Occasionally yes but 4 games on the trot? Absolutely not. That's a fact whether people like it or not.
dont get me wrong , i was pissed off AGAIN with the performance last night but i seem to remember back in the season we got promoted we lost every game pre season. im sure it was that year.
it is very worrying but to be honest who actually thought we were going to go over and everything would run smoothly with great performances and loads of goals. this is city , it doesnt happen like that.


I don't know who thought we were going to go over with everything running smoothly with great performances & loads of goals but it certainly wasn't me. I just expected a level of competence & promise.
I was fullsome in my praise of the 1st game, everything looked spot on & we had a definite plan. Since then it's gone to pieces, we've fucked it up by messing around too much & the players are confused & uncertain. My hopes lie in the new players kick starting us because atm we're not right, not at all. There is a problem & it needs solving immediately before it's too late.
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:53 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
9secondlegend wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
9secondlegend wrote:i think one reason why everyone is so dissapointed is because friendlies these days are so high profile and we dont like getting shown up on the world stage. if it wasnt on tv and we lost to some swedish team although some would still be pissed off i dont the reactions would be half as bad


Whatever spin anyone puts on it, top teams don't usually look as poor in freindlies as City have. Occasionally yes but 4 games on the trot? Absolutely not. That's a fact whether people like it or not.
dont get me wrong , i was pissed off AGAIN with the performance last night but i seem to remember back in the season we got promoted we lost every game pre season. im sure it was that year.
it is very worrying but to be honest who actually thought we were going to go over and everything would run smoothly with great performances and loads of goals. this is city , it doesnt happen like that.


I don't know who thought we were going to go over with everything running smoothly with great performances & loads of goals but it certainly wasn't me. I just expected a level of competence & promise.
I was fullsome in my praise of the 1st game, everything looked spot on & we had a definite plan. Since then it's gone to pieces, we've fucked it up by messing around too much & the players are confused & uncertain. My hopes lie in the new players kick starting us because atm we're not right, not at all. There is a problem & it needs solving immediately before it's too late.



With you on this Ted.I don't care about results and i don't expect top clas team performances but I did expect some signs that we have plans , that the players know what they are and that we intend to be positive. Not overly fussed but a little worried that the players just seemed lost on what the plan was or else just incompetent at putting it into practice. Boateng,Silva,Tevez and maybe even Nigel will help change all that.
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby brite blu sky » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:57 am

overreactions to this have got to be out of hurt pride. It is meaningless, even more so after the ref dismissed Vieira.

to put the cat amongst the pidgeons, i am quite happy we got the run-a-round in some of these games. In fact i would be happier for this team to be starting the season not having won any of the bigger friendly ties. Would be good to see a half decent performance v Valencia, but again id take a defeat if it meant that this team felt they had a lot of work to do and a lot to prove. Whatever way you fuclin look at it bringing in so many players is going to take time to get things settled down and playing fluently as not only a team but a squad. City again have a disadvantage to the rest of the teams chasing top 4/5/6 places in that they all have settled squads used to playing together and players coming in and out and still performing. So the one thing that City are going to have to do to compensate for that is work their balls off and hope that hard work and individual talent will carry them through.
So if losing all our pre-season games means that we are under no illusions when it kicks off for real, then that is fine by me.

Losing to Milan with 10 men in a pre-season friendly doesn't even twitch the needle compared to losing to Spurs on the opening game. get real people.

Conversely if we had stomped all over Milan we would be all high as a kite and predicting the league was gonna be a walkover, the players might be thinking they are 'there' or 'thereabouts' and so dont need to get the finger out, then we a get dose of reality at WHL. No way lads, that is not the way to go.
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby Blue Blood » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:23 am

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Not in the slightest..both the rags and chelsea have both lost to muppets..it is just a workout

makes me laugh on the game thread..people livid..even though we are down to 10 men against the European champions hahaha


Spot on IBH.

Its called pre-season for a reason, it means sweet fa. We can lose all the remaining pre-season games and i won't be fussed as long as we turn up firing on all cylinders on August 14th.
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby shawzy » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:28 am

Blue Blood wrote:
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Not in the slightest..both the rags and chelsea have both lost to muppets..it is just a workout

makes me laugh on the game thread..people livid..even though we are down to 10 men against the European champions hahaha


Spot on IBH.

Its called pre-season for a reason, it means sweet fa. We can lose all the remaining pre-season games and i won't be fussed as long as we turn up firing on all cylinders on August 14th.


Im with you guys on this one.

Not in the slightest bothered....We have not once seen the whole 1st team play yet so why should i be.
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby CitizenYank » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:41 am

Of all the teams we've played, not one of the squads has been
the same and I doubt that half of them will be starting for us at
any given time:

The goal of the exhibition was to give some Academy, rehabbing and bench players
a running start, sell some tickets and merchandise and let Mancini start working
with his new coaching staff.

Goal Accomplished. As long as we get the players we signed in camp on time, that's
the important thing!!
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby Beeks » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:48 am

Blue Blood wrote:
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Not in the slightest..both the rags and chelsea have both lost to muppets..it is just a workout

makes me laugh on the game thread..people livid..even though we are down to 10 men against the European champions hahaha


Spot on IBH.

Its called pre-season for a reason, it means sweet fa. We can lose all the remaining pre-season games and i won't be fussed as long as we turn up firing on all cylinders on August 14th.


if you look at that result last night and even with 10 men the result flattered Inter..a wicked deflection for the second and a wonder goal for the third made it look far easier than it was

referee should have never sent Vieira off..it's a friendly ffs..we would have had a better idea of where we were up to if it was 11 vs 11
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:37 pm

Blue Blood wrote:
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Not in the slightest..both the rags and chelsea have both lost to muppets..it is just a workout

makes me laugh on the game thread..people livid..even though we are down to 10 men against the European champions hahaha


Spot on IBH.

Its called pre-season for a reason, it means sweet fa. We can lose all the remaining pre-season games and i won't be fussed as long as we turn up firing on all cylinders on August 14th.


exactly.
If we turn up first game of the season AND our fitness is spot on march onwards, preseason will have been success. Generally, often when we have done well in preseason we have had disappointing season and vice versa.

What I've really been disappointed this preseason is how youngsters and fringe players haven't really stepped up and showed what they are capable of to manager.
Sometimes we're good and sometimes we're bad but when we're good, at least we're much better than we used to be and when we are bad we're just as bad as we always used to be, so that's got to be good hasn't it?


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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:18 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Blue Blood wrote:
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Not in the slightest..both the rags and chelsea have both lost to muppets..it is just a workout

makes me laugh on the game thread..people livid..even though we are down to 10 men against the European champions hahaha


Spot on IBH.

Its called pre-season for a reason, it means sweet fa. We can lose all the remaining pre-season games and i won't be fussed as long as we turn up firing on all cylinders on August 14th.


exactly.
If we turn up first game of the season AND our fitness is spot on march onwards, preseason will have been success. Generally, often when we have done well in preseason we have had disappointing season and vice versa.

What I've really been disappointed this preseason is how youngsters and fringe players haven't really stepped up and showed what they are capable of to manager.


Of course we're aiming to be right for the 1st game, so are all the other teams but they're doing it by trying to pass, move & play good football. Why are we different?
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby MaineRoadMemories » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:19 pm

Would be nice to score more than two goals in 4 games though.
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby Blue Blood » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:40 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Blue Blood wrote:
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Not in the slightest..both the rags and chelsea have both lost to muppets..it is just a workout

makes me laugh on the game thread..people livid..even though we are down to 10 men against the European champions hahaha


Spot on IBH.

Its called pre-season for a reason, it means sweet fa. We can lose all the remaining pre-season games and i won't be fussed as long as we turn up firing on all cylinders on August 14th.


exactly.
If we turn up first game of the season AND our fitness is spot on march onwards, preseason will have been success. Generally, often when we have done well in preseason we have had disappointing season and vice versa.

What I've really been disappointed this preseason is how youngsters and fringe players haven't really stepped up and showed what they are capable of to manager.


I have to agree with that, only really nimely and boyata look ready to step up to the first team and potentially challenge. All the others who played have really underwhelmed me, this may seem a little harsh but when you get an opportunity at our club these days as a young up and coming player you must take it and give 110%.
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby Renato_CTID » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:44 pm

I told it at the end of last season and I'm sad to confirm it now: what an awful decision from our board was going far to America for these unuseful games! Sure we'll coming back tired and nervous, couldn't be better for City going to old Europe to search the right condition to begin at our best this difficult season?
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby blootoof » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:09 pm

Bring on Spurs. Thats when it matters.
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:34 pm

blootoof wrote:Bring on Spurs. Thats when it matters.



....but don't bring them on just yet..
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Re: Do You Think Results & Perfomances In Friendlies Matter?

Postby blootoof » Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:39 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
blootoof wrote:Bring on Spurs. Thats when it matters.



....but don't bring them on just yet..


I'd rather play them first game than mid season when the league kinda settles. First games are always a bit of a lottery prediction wise.
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