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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby david yearsley » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:46 pm

Well done Mrs R - you kept your cool coz I fuclin wouldn´t have!!
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Nigels Tackle » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:50 pm

two words for van marwijk - van bommel.....

...why do you still pick him????? oh..... it's because he's fucking your daughter. cunt.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby david yearsley » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:04 pm

I´m seriously scratching my head in incredulity to what I´m hearing - these chumps are in total denial - they really believe NDJ didn´t win the ball!! - it´s what philosophers call the point of infinite regress. They simply MUST have an agenda but what would you expect when the presenters are mainly Spuds, Chelski, Manure and Pool fans(sorry Mrs R) Huddlestone wasn´t even discussed last week when he assaulted someone with CLEAR intent in the CL game last week , but there is quite clearly a Spuds/Twitchy love in on that station
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:18 pm

MrsRazor wrote:That was me on the radio.lol and they ref is Graham Poll say no more

Ignorant gits round here, what was said Mrs R?
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:30 pm

Ultimately, I think this will do us more good than harm. I haven't heard an ex-pro not paid by talksport have a go, however, the grief he's getting and the dutch ban will help create that them and us attitude and bring the squad together. We saw it with Bridge last year and this could be the next instance.

Henry's tackle was much, much worse, yet it's being ignored in comparison, because, by some utter fluke, he didn't harm the guy.

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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby pears12 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:56 pm

It wasn't the worst challenge I have seen, if anything it was fair because he got the ball.. I not sure Graham Poll is allowed to comment on reffing he doesn't even know that 2 yellows = 1 red. Van Marwijk is an idiot for dropping him because he made 1 tough tackle yet he allows Van Bommel to hack away.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby the_georgian_genius » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:10 pm

It was a strong tackle but a fair strong tackle. The dutch manager is picking on De Jong because they have a reputation as a bit of a dirty team after the world cup final, just a shame that he has picked on our nige and not van bommel who is 10 times worse, but then again De Jong isn't slipping his daughter one like Van Bommell.

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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby BlueMoonAwoken » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:31 pm

I would be feel let down by my country if i was de jong, the dutch fa should overule the dutch coach imo. But least he will be in training with us, as another poster here said somewhere use all this venom against us and keep playing like your trying to ram those words down there throats.

I tried posting a comment on the article about the tackle on ssn but they havent published it, i was saying it was a fair tackle and steven gerrard never got this sort of treatment when he tried to split someones face in half last week.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby halnone » Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:50 am

It was a fair challenge. I love De Jong.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Citeh&Crew » Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:04 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
ashton287 wrote:I want a picture of it as his leg is bent as my signature, fucking awesome challenge broke both the bones. I know you guys will probably cry about the guys career but i honestly dont care before anyone does.

De Jong is double hard. Makes keane look like the scruffy little tinker he was.


Are you deliberately trying to give everyone the impression that you're a wanker?

Anyway, back in the world of normal human beings; it's an awful shame what's happened to the lad but having seen it again, if they 'do' DeJong for that, they'd better give Paul Scholes & about 50 other people a retrospective 20 game ban each. I asked two full scale rags about it before I'd seen the replay & neither thought there was even a question of a problem with the challenge.


Wow, there we go. Awesome logic, Teddy. Because you asked two "full-scale".. mind you not "half-scale" but FULL.. rags, and they gave their approval, it's all good,right?

No. It's not. It is my opinion judging by De Jong's wrecklessness last season, his breaking of Holden's ankle, his karate kick in the WC, and the audacious tackle on Arfa, tha Nigel is a thug. If that makes Scholes a thug, so be it. There has to be a standard applied that prevents idiots from legally breaking another's bones.

Just because one "gets the ball first", doesn't automatically make the tackle fair. Well, not to normal human beings.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:13 am

Citeh&Crew wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
ashton287 wrote:I want a picture of it as his leg is bent as my signature, fucking awesome challenge broke both the bones. I know you guys will probably cry about the guys career but i honestly dont care before anyone does.

De Jong is double hard. Makes keane look like the scruffy little tinker he was.


Are you deliberately trying to give everyone the impression that you're a wanker?

Anyway, back in the world of normal human beings; it's an awful shame what's happened to the lad but having seen it again, if they 'do' DeJong for that, they'd better give Paul Scholes & about 50 other people a retrospective 20 game ban each. I asked two full scale rags about it before I'd seen the replay & neither thought there was even a question of a problem with the challenge.


Wow, there we go. Awesome logic, Teddy. Because you asked two "full-scale".. mind you not "half-scale" but FULL.. rags, and they gave their approval, it's all good,right?

No. It's not. It is my opinion judging by De Jong's wrecklessness last season, his breaking of Holden's ankle, his karate kick in the WC, and the audacious tackle on Arfa, tha Nigel is a thug. If that makes Scholes a thug, so be it. There has to be a standard applied that prevents idiots from legally breaking another's bones.

Just because one "gets the ball first", doesn't automatically make the tackle fair. Well, not to normal human beings.


It was a fair but hard tackle.....quite legal so get off your fucking high horse.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Tokyo Blue » Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:28 am

Citeh&Crew wrote:Just because one "gets the ball first", doesn't automatically make the tackle fair. Well, not to normal human beings.


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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Citeh&Crew » Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:44 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Citeh&Crew wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
ashton287 wrote:I want a picture of it as his leg is bent as my signature, fucking awesome challenge broke both the bones. I know you guys will probably cry about the guys career but i honestly dont care before anyone does.

De Jong is double hard. Makes keane look like the scruffy little tinker he was.


Are you deliberately trying to give everyone the impression that you're a wanker?

Anyway, back in the world of normal human beings; it's an awful shame what's happened to the lad but having seen it again, if they 'do' DeJong for that, they'd better give Paul Scholes & about 50 other people a retrospective 20 game ban each. I asked two full scale rags about it before I'd seen the replay & neither thought there was even a question of a problem with the challenge.


Wow, there we go. Awesome logic, Teddy. Because you asked two "full-scale".. mind you not "half-scale" but FULL.. rags, and they gave their approval, it's all good,right?

No. It's not. It is my opinion judging by De Jong's wrecklessness last season, his breaking of Holden's ankle, his karate kick in the WC, and the audacious tackle on Arfa, tha Nigel is a thug. If that makes Scholes a thug, so be it. There has to be a standard applied that prevents idiots from legally breaking another's bones.

Just because one "gets the ball first", doesn't automatically make the tackle fair. Well, not to normal human beings.


It was a fair but hard tackle.....quite legal so get off your fucking high horse.


Carl, nice to hear from you.

However, I repeat, just because it was "quite legal", doesn't make it a "fair" tackle. I don't know where you,or some of your countrymen get this mentality from (because I see the same nonsense repeated ad nauseum). Of course, it must be mentioned that plenty of English football fans also condemn De Jong.

Regardless, De Jong followed through with the other leg and scissored Arfa, when he had no need to do so. If you cannot extrapolate intent from that, then you must at least conclude that De Jong is an absolute brain-dead footballer with no concept or care for whether or not he will snap another's leg. There's no need for that in the Prem. If it continues, those who can actually.. you know.. play proper football will shy away from the league.

All the nonsense about "how it used to be" in English football is just that: nonsense. The sport has changed to a faster paced game with those who have far more ball-skill than in the past. (I've seen old games from the 80's and I believe even one from the 70's. I'd have had more fun watching paint dry. ) The enforcement of rules need to change accordingly. No one is asking to "sissify" the game; simply start handing out bans for blatantly wreckless tackles that either endanger or injured a player. Furthermore, hand out bans that are the equivelant of however long the injured player is out.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Citeh&Crew » Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:52 am

Tokyo Blue wrote:
Citeh&Crew wrote:Just because one "gets the ball first", doesn't automatically make the tackle fair. Well, not to normal human beings.


You can find the laws of the game at http://www.thefa.com.


So, in your opinion, there was no excessive force used, Tokyo? Just curious as to your take. Perhaps it was an awesome, but "unfortunate" tackle, eh?
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Tokyo Blue » Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:59 am

Citeh&Crew wrote:However, I repeat, just because it was "quite legal", doesn't make it a "fair" tackle. I don't know where you,or some of your countrymen get this mentality from (because I see the same nonsense repeated ad nauseum). Of course, it must be mentioned that plenty of English football fans also condemn De Jong.

Regardless, De Jong followed through with the other leg and scissored Arfa, when he had no need to do so. If you cannot extrapolate intent from that, then you must at least conclude that De Jong is an absolute brain-dead footballer with no concept or care for whether or not he will snap another's leg. There's no need for that in the Prem. If it continues, those who can actually.. you know.. play proper football will shy away from the league.

All the nonsense about "how it used to be" in English football is just that: nonsense. The sport has changed to a faster paced game with those who have far more ball-skill than in the past. (I've seen old games from the 80's and I believe even one from the 70's. I'd have had more fun watching paint dry. ) The enforcement of rules need to change accordingly. No one is asking to "sissify" the game; simply start handing out bans for blatantly wreckless tackles that either endanger or injured a player. Furthermore, hand out bans that are the equivelant of however long the injured player is out.


You might have seen highlights from 70s games but from your comments it is clear that you were not there. So no, you do not know what it was like, therefore you are not placed to comment on it. So I'll treat your comments with the complete disdain they deserve because I was there. And it was fucking great.

Right, so under the new "Citeh&Crew manifesto for proper football" we are banning players for tackles which are not fouls then? That right? Nah, don't think so. The criterion for a foul is not "does the player tackled get injured". www.thefa.com is your friend here.

Please tell me the definition of a "wreckless" (sic) tackle.

Please enlighten me further. What exactly is de Jong supposed to do with his other leg when he tackles. He can't take it off mid-tackle. He can't make it disappear. It has to go somewhere.

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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Tokyo Blue » Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:00 am

Citeh&Crew wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:
Citeh&Crew wrote:Just because one "gets the ball first", doesn't automatically make the tackle fair. Well, not to normal human beings.


You can find the laws of the game at http://www.thefa.com.


So, in your opinion, there was no excessive force used, Tokyo? Just curious as to your take. Perhaps it was an awesome, but "unfortunate" tackle, eh?

Momentum. He played the ball and caught him with his other leg, which was unintentional.

Have you ever played the game, Crew? Clearly not.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:03 am

Thanks TB - I couldnt have put it any better.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Kladze » Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:54 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:Thanks TB - I couldnt have put it any better.


I could have.


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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby CityFanFromRome » Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:56 am

Renato_CTID wrote:
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Renato_CTID wrote:We were lucky yesterday if Nigel wasn't sent off immediately for his terrible foul! Now what I pretend from Mancio is this lad must be punished! City aren't like rags, Nigel couldn't become our Roy Keane and he must learn to fight with his heart and, much more than now, with his brain.
A month playing with our reserves shall be enough for him!!!

I hope you're not serious, it wasn't such an outrageous tackle. Injuries happen in tackles but it doesn't automatically mean NDJ is a criminal, he got the ball first, and then collided with the player, how many times does that happen in games? Do all players who make tackles like that get sluaghtered this way by the media? I don't think so.


I never say NDJ is a criminal! He made a mistake and it's not the first time in his career. Mancio must talk with him very carefully or we would pay for his foul very early in this season!

Yeah i know you didn't say he was a criminal, I was exaggerating a bit, but what I meant is, only because Ben Arfa got injured it doesn't mean it was a malicious tackle by NDJ, a tough challenge yes, but as I said before, he got the ball first, so I think it was just bad luck for the other player to break his leg, and probably the slippery pitch helped in that direction, but I don't see it as a mean tackle from De Jong.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby ant london » Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:22 am

There are a number of posters on here who don't appear to fully grasp what being a City fan (or a "proper" supporter of any club) is all about.

They seem to have been drawn to the club by a number of factors....some of them because their favourite player signed for us, others because player/manager of their nationality joined us and interest levels in Manchester City drew them here.

No City fan should condone blatant foul play but not many on here thought, for example, what Ben Thatcher did to Pablo Mendes was OK, or acceptable.

However, ALL City fans should support the fucking club over their little favourites....or their national interests.

And I'm referring to C&C's bitching about Nigel breaking Holden's leg....which was equally not deliberate foul play, merely a very hard tackle
RIG supporting fucking Robinho over City
Mancio4ever bitching and moaning about City and its fans cos he has a hard-on for the fucking manager
.....even the Irish contingent with their blind support of the Irish players and bitching about the club when they are "slighted", dropped or sold.

We all have our fucking favourites. I was as pissed off as anyone when, say, Bellamy was sold. I loved Elano but recognised that he wasn't exactly a model team player. I might have whined a bit at the time when both left but then I got on with supporting the club and the fucking shirt.

If Nigel de Jong, Manchester City player, upsets anyones sensibilities that much well fuck off and support another club or your national team as you are not needed here
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