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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:28 pm

Hasn't it gone past the time to charge Nige? I do hope so 'cos this is boring me to death now. I'm trying to work out who the fucking victims are - do they actually care about Ben Arfa or is it all about their personal outrage; and by them, I mean fucking everyone.

The Geordies are turning into the Dippers, Rags and Arse-wipes, complaining that they have somehow been hard-done-by because one of their players was accidently injured, and by the sounds of it, Hughton was more aghast about the Ameobi penalty.

Their all fucking heart-bleeding sad sacks who need to concentrate on their own teams because as I see it, all this shit is taking the shine away from the fact that we are second.

I've had enough of it now. Fuck 'em..........Fuck 'em all.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby david yearsley » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:07 pm

Can only think this has been instigated by Ashley - if the club reps and coaching staff are responsible then shame on them - a cowardly deed - I´m sure most Geordies don´t support this as it frankly embarrasses them
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby ja0005 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:36 pm

Can't help but think that Newcastle have been encouraged, or worse invited, to make a complaint by someone. Seems strange that after their manager and assistant manager have both said it wasn't a foul they complain about it 2 1/2 days later. I wouldn't be suprised to see that because of some 'exceptional' circumstance the FA will find a way to charge him. Hopefully paranoia on my part but just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. And I've seen it happen before. We play Arsenal soon don't we?
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:46 pm

ja0005 wrote: We play Arsenal soon don't we?


Yep & cunting Nasri has already started with 2 whole weeks to go;

"I am very disappointed for Hatem because he is someone who I appreciate a lot.

"I have been stunned by the refereeing. When you see Hatem is leaving on a stretcher with oxygen assistance and the referee didn't send off the player...that is something that has to be changed in England.

"There has always been physical impact and there will always be. But are the players protected enough? I don't think so.

"Moreover De Jong is just like (Mark) Van Bommel, he has previous history. The referees should know those players are used to committing fouls. The referee didn't even give a free-kick."


Cue Wenger.

If Van Persie opens his fucking hypocritical trap I recon we should make sure we break something of his, even if it's just his nose after the match.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Sister of fu » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:49 pm

ja0005 wrote:Can't help but [highlight]think that Newcastle have been encouraged[/highlight], or worse invited, to make a complaint by someone. Seems strange that after their manager and assistant manager have both said it wasn't a foul they complain about it 2 1/2 days later. I wouldn't be suprised to see that because of some 'exceptional' circumstance the FA will find a way to charge him. Hopefully paranoia on my part but just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. And I've seen it happen before. We play Arsenal soon don't we?



By Adrian Durham, Stan Collymoore and Micky Quinn. A huge witch hunt has taken place on that radio station for the past 3 days and they dont seem like they will rest until De Jong is banned for life.....Wankers!!
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby mcfc1632 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:55 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Socrates wrote:By the laws of the game they shouldn't be able to take action against De Jong but then by the laws of the game they shouldn't have been able to take action against Ben Thatcher when he killed Pedro Mendes. Somehow they seem to be able to make an exception when it is City involved. The fact it wasn't actually a foul is unlikely to stop them if they decided to do it! Let's hope common sense continues to prevail above the hysterical witchhunt?



I think they only started banning players after the event in order to 'do' us in the 1st place so it's hardly surprising when they bend the rules to get us on other occasions.



Cue Atkinson - who was stood a couple of yards away with no impairment to his view - saying that "I did not see it....." - followed by - "If I had of seen it I would have given a red card..." - leaving FA then in a position within their regulations to take action - I expect a minimum 3 match ban

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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby shawzy » Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:16 am

Im getting sick to the back teeth of these pricks now

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NEWCASTLE last night called on the FA to punish Nigel De Jong for the tackle that shattered Hatem Ben Arfa’s leg in two places.
As Newcastle defender Jose Enrique branded the challenge “criminal” and Marseille manager Didier Deschamps called it “an act of violence”, the club issued a statement saying they want the FA to review the incident.
The FA have already said they can take no retrospective action against Manchester City midfielder De Jong because referee Martin Atkinson saw the tackle and did not even deem it worthy of a free-kick, let alone a yellow or red card.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby CityFanFromRome » Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:33 am

I'm really astonished at the witch hunt that is being led against De Jong. The referee saw it, it wasn't a foul, too bad for Ben Arfa that got seriously in jured but that can happen, De Jong clearly took the ball first. I really can't understand why they are all complianing so much about it.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Andy, lincs » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:04 am

Unfortunately this incident has now taken on an Emporers New Clothes situation. The hysteria surrounding it has become such that no pundit, presenter or commentator will say what actually happened. It was a hard, strong tackle with the outcome much more serious than the intention. There was absolutely no intention to go into that tackle to hurt Ben Arfa.

I have seen arguements claiming he was a disgrace for going into the tackle with his trailing leg bent. If he had gone in with his non tackling leg straight he would have been going in with both feet which is a sending off offence.

We will now be faced with every Tom, Dick and Harry saying what a dreadful challenge it was simply becasue they don't have the will to stand up and say differently. Its something De Jong will have to face and come to terms with and the unfortunate consequence is he will be pulled up for absolutely everything. However, he seems to have the charecter to deal with it and it will be interesting to see how he copes under the spotlight when the team gets on the pitch.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:30 am

Le Tissier has been on the radio this morning talking about how DeJong should have been banned because he had both feet off the floor. Fine then, go through the video & ban every player who went into a challenge with both feet off the ground (which DeJong didn't actually do) then go through the next game & the next one, then last weeks games, then the week before, add up all the cards that should have been dished out..

DeJong will have served his bans & be back in 6 weeks but Scholes & Gerrard will still be banned this time next year.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:03 am

Sister of fu wrote:
ja0005 wrote:Can't help but [highlight]think that Newcastle have been encouraged[/highlight], or worse invited, to make a complaint by someone. Seems strange that after their manager and assistant manager have both said it wasn't a foul they complain about it 2 1/2 days later. I wouldn't be suprised to see that because of some 'exceptional' circumstance the FA will find a way to charge him. Hopefully paranoia on my part but just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. And I've seen it happen before. We play Arsenal soon don't we?



By Adrian Durham, Stan Collymoore and Micky Quinn. A huge witch hunt has taken place on that radio station for the past 3 days and they dont seem like they will rest until De Jong is banned for life.....Wankers!!



IMO there is no doubt all the furore has come about because some of the media and especiallyTalksport has gone overboard about it and it will be interesting to see/hear how this continues today.Brazil has already been heard warning Irani re what he says on the matter.As someone said Matt le Tiss has put his 2 penneth in now but the real aggression has been Durham and Collymore.

I am 100% sure that City will have been on the ball listening , reading everything being said and perhaps making it very clear that they were doing so.So far one paper has been banned from what I hear and maybe something similar has happened or might regarding pundits/commentators
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby trueblue64 » Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:43 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 063879.stm

The FA to look into the request, the media may get there way on this.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Sister of fu » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:30 am

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Sister of fu wrote:
ja0005 wrote:Can't help but [highlight]think that Newcastle have been encouraged[/highlight], or worse invited, to make a complaint by someone. Seems strange that after their manager and assistant manager have both said it wasn't a foul they complain about it 2 1/2 days later. I wouldn't be suprised to see that because of some 'exceptional' circumstance the FA will find a way to charge him. Hopefully paranoia on my part but just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. And I've seen it happen before. We play Arsenal soon don't we?



By Adrian Durham, Stan Collymoore and Micky Quinn. A huge witch hunt has taken place on that radio station for the past 3 days and they dont seem like they will rest until De Jong is banned for life.....Wankers!!



IMO there is no doubt all the furore has come about because some of the media and especiallyTalksport has gone overboard about it and it will be interesting to see/hear how this continues today.Brazil has already been heard warning Irani re what he says on the matter.As someone said Matt le Tiss has put his 2 penneth in now but the real aggression has been Durham and Collymore.

I am 100% sure that City will have been on the ball listening , reading everything being said and perhaps making it very clear that they were doing so.So far one paper has been banned from what I hear and maybe something similar has happened or might regarding pundits/commentators



Im a lead to think that some sort of statement/email/letter was posted by Vicky Kloss saying that we are dealing with a newspaper and a radio station in reference to the De Jong incident but this was later pulled off. It does seem that City are not sitting on this as the media try and hang him out to dry. Good on you City.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Beeks » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:12 am

Good article in the MEN for a change...

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... ore_stinks
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Manx Blue » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:17 am

Newcastle are being extremely self righteous about this.

What if anything did they do as a club, after the two footed lunge to the shin of Anichebe of Everton, just a mere 18 months ago?
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby london blue 2 » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:33 am

Manx Blue wrote:Newcastle are being extremely self righteous about this.

What if anything did they do as a club, after the two footed lunge to the shin of Anichebe of Everton, just a mere 18 months ago?


Wasnt it one of thier player that snapped someones leg by the corner flag....

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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:36 am

When I saw Ben Arfa there, I knew immediately what would follow. Exactly this.

It was just a fucking challenge. Hard? Sure. Against the rules of football? No. Trying to harm the player? No.

It's fucking hypocritical all this. These things happen in football. I feel sorry for Ben Arfa just like I feel sorry for any player badly injured but it's not the fucking injury that makes challenge bad. Player can escape injury and challenge can be horrible. And player can break his leg for smallest of contacts.

But I've moaned about this million times before. It has become fucking soft game and some of the dickheads in football governing bodies want to make it non-contact sport.
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Re: De Jong tackle.

Postby Twobob » Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:24 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:When I saw Ben Arfa there, I knew immediately what would follow. Exactly this.

It was just a fucking challenge. Hard? Sure. Against the rules of football? No. Trying to harm the player? No.

It's fucking hypocritical all this. These things happen in football. I feel sorry for Ben Arfa just like I feel sorry for any player badly injured but it's not the fucking injury that makes challenge bad. Player can escape injury and challenge can be horrible. And player can break his leg for smallest of contacts.

But I've moaned about this million times before. It has become fucking soft game and some of the dickheads in football governing bodies want to make it non-contact sport.


Dead on the point NQDP, heard the crack from were I sat as it happened directly in front of me and it was 100% fair challenge, first reactions were that it was a 50/50 ball too and that he wasnt too injured.

Just shite luck for Ben Arfa, could happen in a million challenges you see - thats football, its sport and it can hurt sometimes.

One thing the idiot media and Newcastle dont seem to realise is that the Linesman was also on that side, he was shite but he was closest to it, if it was a foul (which it wasn't) then he should have flagged it - he would have seen the challenge & heard the crack but still let play go on. Everything points to Bad luck for Ben Arfa but the wankers dont like to let FACTS get in the way of a bit of player Bashing!
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