Mourinho at City

[Alioune DVToure]

Plans get changed.......its a fact of life.

Are you that convinced that IF we make the CL (It will have to be the qualifying round if we do) Mancini will somehow change his tactics to how we play?
I personally would not like to gamble on that......Mourinho would not be a gamble....in fact the 2 cannot be compared..Mourinho is a million times better at managing and a million times better at Man managing than Mancini ever will.

Back to the original question..are you convinced and if so on what basis?

His mentality this season has been to try and get a point out of every away game and only go for all three if we're certain we won't lose. This is annoying at times, but it's probably been made clear to him that his job depends on us getting 4th spot. When someone sets you such a rigid target, and you know you're out on your ear if you don't hit it, then you do whatever you can to get it. Hence the boring and cautious football, hence the awful Carling Cup exit.

If he gets us top 4, we should see what he does next. If he doesn't, he's out on his ear so there's no point debating it.

I do actually think (not know) that we'd be playing some more expansive stuff if he had the same job security as Harry Redknapp.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Plans get changed.......its a fact of life.

Are you that convinced that IF we make the CL (It will have to be the qualifying round if we do) Mancini will somehow change his tactics to how we play?
I personally would not like to gamble on that......Mourinho would not be a gamble....in fact the 2 cannot be compared..Mourinho is a million times better at managing and a million times better at Man managing than Mancini ever will.

Back to the original question..are you convinced and if so on what basis?

His mentality this season has been to try and get a point out of every away game and only go for all three if we're certain we won't lose. This is annoying at times, but it's probably been made clear to him that his job depends on us getting 4th spot. When someone sets you such a rigid target, and you know you're out on your ear if you don't hit it, then you do whatever you can to get it. Hence the boring and cautious football, hence the awful Carling Cup exit.

If he gets us top 4, we should see what he does next. If he doesn't, he's out on his ear so there's no point debating it.

I do actually think (not know) that we'd be playing some more expansive stuff if he had the same job security as Harry Redknapp.

So basically you dont mind gambling that he will change his tactics for next year if we do sneak into 4th place?.....I can see it now...shit boring football for the first month and then it will be.."give him till Xmas"..then give him till end of the season"........we have also been here many many times before.

finally John will pipe up about 1968 and stability is the key......for the umpteenth time.

Stability is more about how the club is ran behind the scenes....every club needs that and we have it.
Changing the fucking manager will not destabilize that in the slightest and I wish people would understand that..its a business and we have the perfect frame in place so changing managers will not be a huge fuckign step back...far from it if Mourinho comes in.

[craigmcfc]

I'm afraid that throwing the "boring" tag at Mourinho, considering what we're currently being served up, is really not a reason to not want him

If we scrape 4th and lose the semi then I'd definitely want him. I even think if we finished 3rd and won the darn thing I'd still take him

[Goataldo]

Plans get changed.......its a fact of life.

Are you that convinced that IF we make the CL (It will have to be the qualifying round if we do) Mancini will somehow change his tactics to how we play?
I personally would not like to gamble on that......Mourinho would not be a gamble....in fact the 2 cannot be compared..Mourinho is a million times better at managing and a million times better at Man managing than Mancini ever will.

Back to the original question..are you convinced and if so on what basis?

His mentality this season has been to try and get a point out of every away game and only go for all three if we're certain we won't lose. This is annoying at times, but it's probably been made clear to him that his job depends on us getting 4th spot. When someone sets you such a rigid target, and you know you're out on your ear if you don't hit it, then you do whatever you can to get it. Hence the boring and cautious football, hence the awful Carling Cup exit.

If he gets us top 4, we should see what he does next. If he doesn't, he's out on his ear so there's no point debating it.

I do actually think (not know) that we'd be playing some more expansive stuff if he had the [highlight]same job security as Harry Redknapp.[/[/highlight]quote]

Will he be allowed to manage Spurs from prison!?

Haven't Mancini's previous 'exploits' in the CL been pretty poor though? I don't have the stats to hand, nor do I know whether he played the same negative tactics in the CL as he currently shows with us, but he's hardly set the world on fire inthat competition previously...perhaps someone is able to clarify or explain his previous Champion's league failings, and let us know what we're in store for, should we actually stumble and stutter our way in there.

[Alioune DVToure]

I think my main point was that if at the start of the season Khaldoon and Mubarak had said to Mancini "You're our man and we think you're gonna do the business - go for every competition and let's see what we can do," I think we'd be better off now and that less of our games would've been tense affairs.

Of course there's no way to substantiate this point, but I think we'd play with more freedom and get better results if there were less specific do-or-die targets in place.

This is where I disagree with you, Carl. We do have a good behind the scenes set-up, but they have to realise that the manager is the most important role and give one fella the chance to build something sustainable.

I'm happy for that man to be Mancini.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I think my main point was that if at the start of the season Khaldoon and Mubarak had said to Mancini "You're our man and we think you're gonna do the business - go for every competition and let's see what we can do," I think we'd be better off now and that less of our games would've been tense affairs.

Of course there's no way to substantiate this point, but I think we'd play with more freedom and get better results if there were less specific do-or-die targets in place.

This is where I disagree with you, Carl. We do have a good behind the scenes set-up, but they have to realise that the manager is the most important role and give one fella the chance to build something sustainable.

I'm happy for that man to be Mancini.

Lets see.......nuclear fallout if we see shit in the next 2 games.

[ross.mcfc]

Fucking laughable to say that we should sack Mancini if he wins FA Cup.

I'd take Mourinho IF we could somehow trick him into coming IF we didn't make it to top 4 or win FA Cup.
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Do you think McLeish will keep his job if Brum go down this year. He won a trophy but his job was to keep his team in the league.

[kinkylola]

Bilic ... the croatian coach is a younger coach that I rate.

I'd prefer to see bobby succeed and stay on though.I dont think anyone could realistically say no to Mourinho given his track record, I would just like to get a coach that we can stick with long term and build a legacy, don't know if that could happen with Mourinho.

[Ted Hughes]

I think my main point was that if at the start of the season Khaldoon and Mubarak had said to Mancini "You're our man and we think you're gonna do the business - go for every competition and let's see what we can do," I think we'd be better off now and that less of our games would've been tense affairs.

Of course there's no way to substantiate this point, but I think we'd play with more freedom and get better results if there were less specific do-or-die targets in place.

This is where I disagree with you, Carl. We do have a good behind the scenes set-up, but they have to realise that the manager is the most important role and give one fella the chance to build something sustainable.

I'm happy for that man to be Mancini.

Lets see.......nuclear fallout if we see shit in the next 2 games.

That's true enough. We have to beat Sunderland or we've probably fucked up 4th place already. We can't afford anymore fulham type results at home.

[Crossie]

This is what will happen.

We will win the FA cup, finish 4th, but Mourinho will become available and we will sack Mancini for him.

Mourinho will then win us the league next season, and a cup, poss champs league.

Fergie will have a heart attack and retire. Mourinho will move to Scum.

We will be dumped and never win the league again, because Mourinho and Scum is a formidable line up.

[Alioune DVToure]

This is what will happen.

We will win the FA cup, finish 4th, but Mourinho will become available and we will sack Mancini for him.

Mourinho will then win us the league next season, and a cup, poss champs league.

Fergie will have a heart attack and retire. Mourinho will move to Scum.

We will be dumped and never win the league again, because Mourinho and Scum is a formidable line up.

I think that's the job he wants in all honesty.

Not that I care. We're too important now to be batting our eyelids at anyone.

The other problem with Mourinho is that he leaves clubs in decline when he fucks off. We want someone who can keep us improving at a steady rate and wants the job for years.

[Fesan]

This is what will happen.

We will win the FA cup, finish 4th, but Mourinho will become available and we will sack Mancini for him.

Mourinho will then win us the league next season, and a cup, poss champs league.

Fergie will have a heart attack and retire. Mourinho will move to Scum.

You forgot:
Utd will go bankrupt and Mourinho will move to another team.

I think that's the job he wants in all honesty.

Not that I care. We're too important now to be batting our eyelids at anyone.

The other problem with Mourinho is that he leaves clubs in decline when he fucks off. We want someone who can keep us improving at a steady rate and wants the job for years.

I also think he prefers utd atm. But I think we can convince him to stay with us if he comes here and Fergie stays on for a couple more years. After a few years for us where he can experience how great fans we are, how great the owners are and how much freedom/cash he gets he might just say nothanks should utd come calling as he will have the chance to build his own legacy. Why leave a club he has been successfull with that has tons more cash than anyone and prob. just as big stadium at that point in time?

[the_georgian_genius]

Only on these conditions.

If he is willing to stay here and build this club and not just swan in, win a few trophies and leave in two years.

As long as he gives up all dreams of managing the rags.

If not then maybe in a decade, not now.

[Beefymcfc]

Just to throw a spanner in the works, what if we win the cup, come 4th, and Spurs win the CL?

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

[strike]Second[/strike] Best manager in the world. Get him at all costs

[Blue Since 76]

This is what will happen.

We will win the FA cup, finish 4th, but Mourinho will become available and we will sack Mancini for him.

Mourinho will then win us the league next season, and a cup, poss champs league.

Fergie will have a heart attack and retire. Mourinho will move to Scum.

We will be dumped and never win the league again, because Mourinho and Scum is a formidable line up.

If we don't get him, I'm sure he'll end up at the rags, providing they can find some cash.

Used to think he was boring at Chelsea, but after this season it would look like total football.

Regardless of Mancini and what anyone thinks, if Messi became available, would we replace Johnson with him? Mourinho is in the best 3 managers in the world too, so why wouldn't we do whatever was necessary to get him?

As for bigger than the club, 3 names: clough, taggart and allison. The later was 'just' a coach, as well

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Even if he's slightly less boring than Mancini add guranteed trophies not "playing not to lose" to that mix and is there anything Mancini does that Jose wouldn't do better?

I could understand if Booby played this way last season, but he inherited a good squad and spent 150 million, how the fuck can he be missing any piece to his puzzle? Surely with a bag of loot and a whole pre season he should have started how he wished to go on and then just made minor tweaks. But no we heard it was shit cos Kolarov and Boateng were out. Then they came back and it got worse as far as I see it. So does this mean every player he buys will make us less attractive? Dzeko fits that bill for me too. It seems the football is going in reverse style wise for bare minimum points improvement.

[dazby]

I think for the owners it's fourth, but for the fans a trophy would guarantee him immortality and there is no way he could be sacked.

[Paco Gento]

Mourinho won't leave before his contract run out. Yesterday he said he won't mind signing another one if the club want. Such quotes probably will not make the British press but be sure that he is not leaving any time soon. Pérez defended him last week in the media and Pérez never speak to the media. Most of all, Mourinho has the fans on his side which makes him untouchable.

[Feed The Goat]

Fucking laughable to say that we should sack Mancini if he wins FA Cup.

I'd take Mourinho IF we could somehow trick him into coming IF we didn't make it to top 4 or win FA Cup.

I could understand this if people were talking about someone who plays attractive football but Mourinho doesn't. I could very well deal with Jose's football because he gets results but whingers who say that we should sack Mancini if he wins FA Cup to get Mourinho to win FA Cup are foolish.

To be fair, we won't draw Leicester/Notts County/2nd string Villa & Reading every year! The semi will be our first real test.

With that draw I would like to think any manager would get us to this stage of the competition with the players we have.

But in the past we have failed at shit teams.