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Re: Christine

Postby Dameerto » Fri May 20, 2011 9:39 am

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Ted Hughes wrote:The only reason they wouldn't want him is if they took our feelings into consideration. Would they really do that? If they had in the past, Bellamy wouldn't have gone to Cardiff.

What other possible reason would there be to not sign Ronaldo ? We'd challenge for everything & the club's profile would go through the roof; all of their objectives. FFP ? Don't make me laugh, they could arrange an extra sponsorship to pay for him purely on the strength of him signing. If Real want Tevez, it knocks a fair bit off the price anyway.

If Ronaldo wants to stay at Real, then this is total bullshit & he stays. If it's true he wants to leave however, we will be trying to sign him, without a shadow of a doubt.


Or we were already moving for someone else at Real before this story broke, and we don't want to pee the club off (bearing in mind Real are already fully stocked in midfield AND have another one signed and joining in the summer)

Or, we've already got a player who may not be too happy to see the Tranny taking over his mantle.


The one who's just told a radio station that it's time for a change of scenery?

Could be. But if you could show me that radio interview it would be much appreciated, or even, 3 interviews to make up the one ;-)


I'll show you a full moon (slightly blue as it's a bit chilly here right now)

My point before you went off on a tangent, was that we're more likely to get a midfielder in ESPECIALLY if Tevez stays
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Re: Christine

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri May 20, 2011 9:44 am

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Ted Hughes wrote:The only reason they wouldn't want him is if they took our feelings into consideration. Would they really do that? If they had in the past, Bellamy wouldn't have gone to Cardiff.

What other possible reason would there be to not sign Ronaldo ? We'd challenge for everything & the club's profile would go through the roof; all of their objectives. FFP ? Don't make me laugh, they could arrange an extra sponsorship to pay for him purely on the strength of him signing. If Real want Tevez, it knocks a fair bit off the price anyway.

If Ronaldo wants to stay at Real, then this is total bullshit & he stays. If it's true he wants to leave however, we will be trying to sign him, without a shadow of a doubt.


As much as I don't want Tranaldo or any other ex-rag, I fully agree with all of that. Besides, they already tested the water with Tevez and that went down well with majority of supporters.

Tranaldo, alongside Messi and Beckscum of yesteryear, are financially different kettle of fish to just about anyone else in football world. It's not just "we throw 100 million at them" or whatever. They bring back majority of that money through marketing, short sales and shit. They are the kind of players who have fans of their own who spend millions on merchandise and follow them where ever they go. Do I think it's right? FUCK NO. But that's the way it is from marketing point of view.

Also, you can not argue with Tranaldo's laughable video game numbers. Same as Messi. They are just different level to anyone else this time and age and even I, bitterest of bitters, can't argue with that.

So, in short, you're saying you'd have Tranny?


NO.FUCKING.WAY.

But I'm dead against any former rags playing for us. And yes, that included Tevez when we signed him and I was never stupid enough to trust him (and he has done brilliant job for us, don't get me wrong). I can't just go from calling someone Herman Munsterhead or Tranaldo Ladyboy to hailing them as Blue heroes. But that's just me.

But way things are going and the relative ease half of the people backed Hughes (despite him doing average job) and 95% Tevez (I can understand this, he has been super top class for us), I'm sure Marwood and Khaldoon would have no hesitation going for Tranaldo without fearing too much what supporters would think. And like I said, he puts up amazing numbers and I've learned my lesson, 95% of people would be cheering him and inventing new songs for him after about a month.

Good man. There's only so much a Blue could put up with. Luckily it's just a bullshit and we shouldn't even have to consider it.

2 things though:

More PR for the club.

This should make people realise that Balague is not the all-seeing eye and just another bullshitting bastard.
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Re: Christine

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri May 20, 2011 9:47 am

Dameerto wrote:I'll show you a full moon (slightly blue as it's a bit chilly here right now)

My point before you went off on a tangent, was that we're more likely to get a midfielder in ESPECIALLY if Tevez stays

Agreed. Who you got in mind?
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Re: Christine

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 20, 2011 9:51 am

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Dameerto wrote:I'll show you a full moon (slightly blue as it's a bit chilly here right now)

My point before you went off on a tangent, was that we're more likely to get a midfielder in ESPECIALLY if Tevez stays

Agreed. Who you got in mind?


If all the talk about Inter being in for Tevez, I think it'd be quite straightforward, Snejder. He has been banging on about wanting to join the rags for years so he'd have no hesitation coming to England (although I'm not too comfortable about just how much he has been talking about rags spesifically). Also, if him and Silva would click, we would rip most Premierleague defences apart.

Not quite direct replacement but he'd create enough chances for our strikers to cover for Tevez loss I feel.
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Re: Christine

Postby PeterParker » Fri May 20, 2011 9:55 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
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Dameerto wrote:I'll show you a full moon (slightly blue as it's a bit chilly here right now)

My point before you went off on a tangent, was that we're more likely to get a midfielder in ESPECIALLY if Tevez stays

Agreed. Who you got in mind?


If all the talk about Inter being in for Tevez, I think it'd be quite straightforward, Snejder. He has been banging on about wanting to join the rags for years so he'd have no hesitation coming to England (although I'm not too comfortable about just how much he has been talking about rags spesifically). Also, if him and Silva would click, we would rip most Premierleague defences apart.

Not quite direct replacement but he'd create enough chances for our strikers to cover for Tevez loss I feel.


I think if Sneijder will be a target, Nige will play a great part in the transfer. They grew up together at Ajax, they were roomates last summer at the World Cup. So i am prepare to bet that Cook/Mancio, will ask Nige to talk to him.
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Re: Christine

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 20, 2011 10:01 am

PeterParker wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Dameerto wrote:I'll show you a full moon (slightly blue as it's a bit chilly here right now)

My point before you went off on a tangent, was that we're more likely to get a midfielder in ESPECIALLY if Tevez stays

Agreed. Who you got in mind?


If all the talk about Inter being in for Tevez, I think it'd be quite straightforward, Snejder. He has been banging on about wanting to join the rags for years so he'd have no hesitation coming to England (although I'm not too comfortable about just how much he has been talking about rags spesifically). Also, if him and Silva would click, we would rip most Premierleague defences apart.

Not quite direct replacement but he'd create enough chances for our strikers to cover for Tevez loss I feel.


I think if Sneijder will be a target, Nige will play a great part in the transfer. They grew up together at Ajax, they were roomates last summer at the World Cup. So i am prepare to bet that Cook/Mancio, will ask Nige to talk to him.


Good spot the De Jong connection. They are exactly the same age and spent about fifteen years together coming through Ajax youth Academy and playing for first team. You'd think they are good mates...... although in real life it's not always as simple as that.
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Re: Christine

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri May 20, 2011 10:04 am

Sneijder would be a great signing for us at this stage but then imo, we have to find another Tevez. We need a proven, top notch striking option in the squad, not just relying on blokes who are finding their feet. A character who will grab the situation by the balls & lead the line, pulling them along with him. Where the fuck we find that, I just don't know.
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Re: Christine

Postby Mike J » Fri May 20, 2011 10:07 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Sneijder would be a great signing for us at this stage but then imo, we have to find another Tevez. We need a proven, top notch striking option in the squad, not just relying on blokes who are finding their feet. A character who will grab the situation by the balls & lead the line, pulling them along with him. Where the fuck we find that, I just don't know.

i think benzema is that man. top striker, he also has the phyique to adapt quickly. we should get in there for him.
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Re: Christine

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 20, 2011 10:08 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Sneijder would be a great signing for us at this stage but then imo, we have to find another Tevez. We need a proven, top notch striking option in the squad, not just relying on blokes who are finding their feet. A character who will grab the situation by the balls & lead the line, pulling them along with him. Where the fuck we find that, I just don't know.


Complicated situation I must admit. I can't think of many strikers who'd be guaranteed for 20 league goals a season. Especially one who wouldn't come with awfull package. In fact, only one who would make any sense to me would be Eto'o (Drogba maybe but there's not much mileage left on him). How's about Eto'o + Sneijder =Tevez?
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Re: Christine

Postby Beeks » Fri May 20, 2011 10:10 am

I've got a horrible feeling it will be some kind of Ibra swap deal
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Re: Christine

Postby Fesan » Fri May 20, 2011 10:11 am

Mike J wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote: he also has the phyique to adapt quickly.


Like he did in spain?:P

On a serious note, whoever we bring in will prob. be from another league (no top strikers in the prem for sale, and few match Tevez). Meaning they will in all likelyhood need ATLEAST 6 months, prob. 12 to fully adjust to the prem.

So if Tevez goes, our primary strikers next season will be Dzeko and Balotelli (plus maybe returning loanees) whether we like it or not. I for one believe they will deliver atleast 10 goals each now that they have had the 12 months + preseason. And ofc. If the team is set up around them and we get someone in to actually cross it to Dzeko.
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Re: Christine

Postby aaron bond » Fri May 20, 2011 10:12 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Sneijder would be a great signing for us at this stage but then imo, we have to find another Tevez. We need a proven, top notch striking option in the squad, not just relying on blokes who are finding their feet. A character who will grab the situation by the balls & lead the line, pulling them along with him. Where the fuck we find that, I just don't know.


Complicated situation I must admit. I can't think of many strikers who'd be guaranteed for 20 league goals a season. Especially one who wouldn't come with awfull package. In fact, only one who would make any sense to me would be Eto'o (Drogba maybe but there's not much mileage left on him). How's about Eto'o + Sneijder =Tevez?


If we got Sneijder plus money (30m I'd hope) I think I could live with that, but we'd still need a striker.

Would you have Anelka back? The guy is proven in the Premiership and is clearly 3rd choice behind Torres and Drogba. I still think he could do a good job, particularly with Silva and Sneijder either side of him up front!
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Re: Christine

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri May 20, 2011 10:13 am

Fesan wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote: he also has the phyique to adapt quickly.


Like he did in spain?:P

On a serious note, whoever we bring in will prob. be from another league (no top strikers in the prem for sale, and few match Tevez). Meaning they will in all likelyhood need ATLEAST 6 months, prob. 12 to fully adjust to the prem.

So if Tevez goes, our primary strikers next season will be Dzeko and Balotelli (plus maybe returning loanees) whether we like it or not. I for one believe they will deliver atleast 10 goals each now that they have had the 12 months + preseason. And ofc. If the team is set up around them and we get someone in to actually cross it to Dzeko.


???????
33 goals in 35 games tell me he did alright in first season. Not the 51 goals he has scored this season (imagine, 51 goals..... that's fucking mindblowing in modern football no matter which way you look at it) but still alright.
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Re: Christine

Postby Mike J » Fri May 20, 2011 10:13 am

Fesan wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote: he also has the phyique to adapt quickly.


Like he did in spain?:P

On a serious note, whoever we bring in will prob. be from another league (no top strikers in the prem for sale, and few match Tevez). Meaning they will in all likelyhood need ATLEAST 6 months, prob. 12 to fully adjust to the prem.

So if Tevez goes, our primary strikers next season will be Dzeko and Balotelli (plus maybe returning loanees) whether we like it or not. I for one believe they will deliver atleast 10 goals each now that they have had the 12 months + preseason. And ofc. If the team is set up around them and we get someone in to actually cross it to Dzeko.

he wasnt really given all that many chances to shine in his first season was he? with higuain palying so well. i just really think he'd do well here.
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Re: Christine

Postby aaron bond » Fri May 20, 2011 10:14 am

Beeks wrote:I've got a horrible feeling it will be some kind of Ibra swap deal


I really don't want Ibra here. I think he is completely overrated. Barcelona saw after 1 season and got rid.

It still amazes me that they paid 40m plus Eto'o for him!!! What were they thinking!?!?
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Re: Christine

Postby Mike J » Fri May 20, 2011 10:15 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Fesan wrote:
Mike J wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote: he also has the phyique to adapt quickly.


Like he did in spain?:P

On a serious note, whoever we bring in will prob. be from another league (no top strikers in the prem for sale, and few match Tevez). Meaning they will in all likelyhood need ATLEAST 6 months, prob. 12 to fully adjust to the prem.

So if Tevez goes, our primary strikers next season will be Dzeko and Balotelli (plus maybe returning loanees) whether we like it or not. I for one believe they will deliver atleast 10 goals each now that they have had the 12 months + preseason. And ofc. If the team is set up around them and we get someone in to actually cross it to Dzeko.


???????
33 goals in 35 games tell me he did alright in first season. Not the 51 goals he has scored this season (imagine, 51 goals..... that's fucking mindblowing in modern football no matter which way you look at it) but still alright.


he means benzema mate..... i suggested he would be a good replacement for tevez.
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Re: Christine

Postby Renato_CTID » Fri May 20, 2011 10:15 am

If Carlos would leave, let's sign immediately El Nino Maravilla! Alexis Sanchez from Udinese looks like a fast and furious complete striker. He's hungry to become a status symbol for Chile.
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Re: Christine

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri May 20, 2011 10:16 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Sneijder would be a great signing for us at this stage but then imo, we have to find another Tevez. We need a proven, top notch striking option in the squad, not just relying on blokes who are finding their feet. A character who will grab the situation by the balls & lead the line, pulling them along with him. Where the fuck we find that, I just don't know.


Complicated situation I must admit. I can't think of many strikers who'd be guaranteed for 20 league goals a season. Especially one who wouldn't come with awfull package. In fact, only one who would make any sense to me would be Eto'o (Drogba maybe but there's not much mileage left on him). How's about Eto'o + Sneijder =Tevez?


I actually put that up as a possible suggestion of what could happen 'tother day. Eto'o is probably the only proven player of that type out there. He puts in a shift too so we wouldn't completely lose out on the workrate.

Other than that, I hope our scouts can find a player of Tevez' quality. Aguerro has some of the attributes but he misses so many chances. Tevez used to do the same tbf though.
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Re: Christine

Postby Mike J » Fri May 20, 2011 10:16 am

aaron bond wrote:
Beeks wrote:I've got a horrible feeling it will be some kind of Ibra swap deal


I really don't want Ibra here. I think he is completely overrated. Barcelona saw after 1 season and got rid.

It still amazes me that they paid 40m plus Eto'o for him!!! What were they thinking!?!?

that was a mad deal.... utterly mental. but i do rate ibra. he has a great record as well. he wins titles wherever he goes as well.

not the type of player we need though as he is a lazy bastard.
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Re: Christine

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri May 20, 2011 10:21 am

Renato_CTID wrote:If Carlos would leave, let's sign immediately El Nino Maravilla! Alexis Sanchez from Udinese looks like a fast and furious complete striker. He's hungry to become a status symbol for Chile.



I think we are trying to sign Sanchez even if Tevez stays, to play alongside him. We need another player to replace Tevez.
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