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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:47 pm

bigblue wrote:
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Blue Blood wrote:Great move by city.

Pat is the very definition of the model pro. Hopefully his example will rub off on all those around him.


Again, it has been mentioned by numerous of players who were with him in Arsenal that he was the worst trainer around. Just happened to be naturally fucking fit.

I don't care either way if club wants to pay him for some odd job title. I just understand this. But as said, I don't need to understand it..... aslong as people who sign the checks do.


You don't have an 18 year career without being extremely dedicated to your job (including diet, exercise, and mentality).


Like I said, at least Ray Parlour and Martin Keown both have said it. I don't know what he islike in the training and neither do you. We'll only have to rely on what his teammates have said. And for the last 4 or 5 years have was in quite a poor shape really. And he is only 34, it's not like he kept going until 40. And last time he played more than 20 league games in a season was 2005.

twosips wrote:Isn't Tevez a naff trainer? Not that it matters of course - its on the pitch that matters


Football development exec doesn't do much on the pitch.
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby Alioune DVToure » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:57 pm

One thing you can't take away from Vieira is the fact that he played out his entire career at the top. Think how many great players have ended up plying their trade with struggling sides by the age of 30.

I'm sure he'll be able to impart some wise words to the kids about the importance of prolonging your career by making the correct lifestyle choices.
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby Blue Blood » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:57 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
bigblue wrote:
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Blue Blood wrote:Great move by city.

Pat is the very definition of the model pro. Hopefully his example will rub off on all those around him.


Again, it has been mentioned by numerous of players who were with him in Arsenal that he was the worst trainer around. Just happened to be naturally fucking fit.

I don't care either way if club wants to pay him for some odd job title. I just understand this. But as said, I don't need to understand it..... aslong as people who sign the checks do.


You don't have an 18 year career without being extremely dedicated to your job (including diet, exercise, and mentality).


Like I said, at least Ray Parlour and Martin Keown both have said it. I don't know what he islike in the training and neither do you. We'll only have to rely on what his teammates have said. And for the last 4 or 5 years have was in quite a poor shape really. And he is only 34, it's not like he kept going until 40.


When I said "model pro", I meant it in the sense he is someone who is universally considered an inspirational figure, a person for whom others look to for advice and learn from.

I don't think his training methods stop him from being a model pro really.

He is here to be a figurehead, a benchmark to the level the current players at the club should strive to achieve.
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:10 pm

Blue Blood wrote: When I said "model pro", I meant it in the sense he is someone who is universally considered an inspirational figure, a person for whom others look to for advice and learn from.


Who are we talking about again?

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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:50 pm

twosips wrote:So he's basically Mario and Micah's babysitter.



So where do you basically get that from? Are they moving to Platt Lane?

" He will also take an active role in the development of youngsters at the Platt Lane complex"
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby Green & Blue » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:52 pm

Great news, delighted hes sticking around.He's had a reallt positive influence at the club, good move by city to keep him here.

Think he is the perfect candidate to fill this job that has been made up just for him.
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:33 pm

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Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:I don't understand what his job is at all..... but who cares.... as long as he himself does.


I think his job is to be all round top bloke. Every club needs one.

I do recall that Paddy was at the fore with the charity and community work last season and for youngsters in the academy having someone like Paddy to look up to and aspire to means you can't go far wrong. Get him working on his badges as well and I feel confident that he will be a positive influence on the club. Plus the players just seem to love the guy.

And as someone who thought signing Paddy was a 'no brainer good idea' from day one I am feeling v smug. Its not a pretty sight.


Wonder if, longer term, he might be a future manager for us ??
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:34 pm

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CTID Hants wrote:Oh Dear Aresole Whinger won't be happy as gather he fancied having Patrick on his back room staff, oh well :-)


No doubt he will be getting Plattini and co to investigate this in the next few days ....


Nicely droll, Chinners, nice one.
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby maf » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:45 pm

My favorite Vieira moment involved Tevez , our Carlos had just been substituted with 5 mins to go ( cant remember which game ) and started throwing his toys out of the pram brushed passed Mancini in a huff stomped up the steps to the bench as he pushes past Vieira , Patrick gives him the most disaproving look I've ever seen and continues to stare at sulking Tevez untill hes forced to acknowledge the stare at which point Vieira turns away in disgust .

I'm glad Vieras been given a continuing role at the club especially considering so many of the younger city players talk of the mentoring and advice hes given them . Don't know if it was true or not but wasnt there a story doing the rounds that before the last season started Vieira took Micah to one side on the training pitch and asked him what he wanted to achieve in football , To which Micah replied to win things with City and regain his england place , Vieira laughed and replied so why are you allways the last out to train and one of the first of the pitch .
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby twosips » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:58 pm

If that last anecdote about Micah and PV is true then I fucking love it.

Micah's attitude has been top notch this season and if that was the cataylst then we owe the man literally millions as he's saved us a fortune in the transfer market. One of the major positives of last year was MR2's resurgence. He seems to have added a good work ethic to his affable personality and all in all it makes him a highly likeable individual. Kudos to RM and PV for this...
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby mr_nool » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:17 pm

Old Pat just seems to be that kind of player and person that everyone respects. I saw ans interview with Zlatan where he was asked which the best player he had ever played with was, and he went on to talk about Vieria for more than a minute and a half - how he had such a winner's mentality, how he inspired his team mates, etc.
John GUidetti was also aksed by a Swedish paper who he's biggest influence in City was,and he said Vieria without hesitation. If someone isn't giving 100% in training, Pat will tell them off, if they're goofing around to much on the training pitch, he will kick them down.
I think this is a very wise move by City, and I don't think we should underestimate the influence he's had on the squad the last one and a half season.
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby Patrick » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:19 pm

Guess Anelka won't be coming back
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:39 pm

This might fit in with the thread about admitting you are wrong, however, signing PV was a total mystery to me and I stood by that for a long time, it was the back end of last season where I saw PV's influence impact us in a massive way. I am very happy he is on board and think he will be a massive influence for us in a very good way. WELL DONE CITY
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby aaron bond » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:17 am

mr_nool wrote:Old Pat just seems to be that kind of player and person that everyone respects. I saw ans interview with Zlatan where he was asked which the best player he had ever played with was, and he went on to talk about Vieria for more than a minute and a half - how he had such a winner's mentality, how he inspired his team mates, etc.
John GUidetti was also aksed by a Swedish paper who he's biggest influence in City was,and he said Vieria without hesitation. If someone isn't giving 100% in training, Pat will tell them off, if they're goofing around to much on the training pitch, he will kick them down.
I think this is a very wise move by City, and I don't think we should underestimate the influence he's had on the squad the last one and a half season.


For me, the greatest indication of the players' respect for him was in the video on the official website of the dressing room at Wembley after the FA Cup Final. The players were lining up to have their picture taken with Vieira and the FA Cup. Vieira was sitting there like Father Christmas in December as kids came up to sit with him one by one!
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:15 am

mr_nool wrote:Old Pat just seems to be that kind of player and person that everyone respects. I saw ans interview with Zlatan where he was asked which the best player he had ever played with was, and he went on to talk about Vieria for more than a minute and a half - how he had such a winner's mentality, how he inspired his team mates, etc.
John GUidetti was also aksed by a Swedish paper who he's biggest influence in City was,and he said Vieria without hesitation. If someone isn't giving 100% in training, Pat will tell them off, if they're goofing around to much on the training pitch, he will kick them down.
I think this is a very wise move by City, and I don't think we should underestimate the influence he's had on the squad the last one and a half season.


Fair enough.

I'm sure he must have major influence in team as they are willing to create role like this for him.

It's funny, I was one of the few who thought getting Vieira in was good signing and stood by him til the end. But I never thought he'd make good coach or anything. Time will tell if I was wrong about the last bit. Hope I am.
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby ross.mcfc » Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:48 am

Wonderwall wrote:This might fit in with the thread about admitting you are wrong, however, signing PV was a total mystery to me and I stood by that for a long time, it was the back end of last season where I saw PV's influence impact us in a massive way. I am very happy he is on board and think he will be a massive influence for us in a very good way. WELL DONE CITY


I thought he was quite good when he did come on last year.

When he came on in the dying minutes of the final I KNEW we werent going to lose a goal. He was a very reassuring pair of hands.
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby DoomMerchant » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:09 pm

ross.mcfc wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:This might fit in with the thread about admitting you are wrong, however, signing PV was a total mystery to me and I stood by that for a long time, it was the back end of last season where I saw PV's influence impact us in a massive way. I am very happy he is on board and think he will be a massive influence for us in a very good way. WELL DONE CITY


I thought he was quite good when he did come on last year.

When he came on in the dying minutes of the final I KNEW we werent going to lose a goal. He was a very reassuring pair of hands.


If it was a reassuring pair of hands in midfield surely you must be thinking of Barry?

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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby Slim » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:15 pm

ross.mcfc wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:This might fit in with the thread about admitting you are wrong, however, signing PV was a total mystery to me and I stood by that for a long time, it was the back end of last season where I saw PV's influence impact us in a massive way. I am very happy he is on board and think he will be a massive influence for us in a very good way. WELL DONE CITY


I thought he was quite good when he did come on last year.

When he came on in the dying minutes of the final I KNEW we werent going to lose a goal. He was a very reassuring pair of hands.


Same, I thought he was phenomenal in settling the side down and making sure we kept what we had, even popped up with a couple of goals which was nice. Having players around like him goes a long way to instilling the right mentality in players and whatever his role is, having a legend like him on board is a boost to everyone.
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Re: Patrick Vieira, Football Development Executive

Postby dazby » Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:58 pm

It's quite a coup that he's stuck with us rather than gone back to the Arse. Nice one City.
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