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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby john@staustell » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:45 am

Blue Toy wrote:I'd believe a lot more in the logic of what you're saying IF we were signing a player who was guaranteed to be fit and ready to play when needed as Vieira was.


Was he? Initially?
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby Blue Toy » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:51 am

He was never in the Hargreaves/Johnson/RSC crock bracket.

Don't get me wrong I am not against the theory behind the signing, I'm just concerned that we're gonna be a 24 man squad.
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby ant london » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:55 am

Blue Toy wrote:He was never in the Hargreaves/Johnson/RSC crock bracket.

Don't get me wrong I am not against the theory behind the signing, I'm just concerned that we're gonna be a 24 man squad.



But we're going to be a 24 man squad if we don't add Owen Hargreaves. We are not going so sign anyone else today and there are no other senior players (ie. Bellamy, Onuoha etc) who will be in that spot. I assume also that 24 includes SWP....who may not be there so we may actually be 23.

None of the prospects such as Suarez, Assulin, Razak, Roman would be included in the 25 man count if we wanted to use them so there is absolutely zero downside in terms of numbers.
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby Esky » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:58 am

I wonder who'll be the first to say he wanted to snub us and go to United?
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:28 am

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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:25 am

We haven't got a 25 man squad full of players, we've got a 22 man squad with gaps in it.

People please stop saying we're taking a risk by adding to a squad with an extra player; it's a fucking stupid argument.
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby johnny crossan » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:28 am

Ted Hughes wrote:We haven't got a 25 man squad full of players, we've got a 22 man squad with gaps in it.

People please stop saying we're taking a risk by adding to a squad with an extra player; it's a fucking stupid argument.


if Hargreaves is gonna be available for the Champs League someone will have to make room - fact.

I'm not sure if you're allowed to drop your third keeper and replace him with a B list U21.
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:41 am

johnny crossan wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:We haven't got a 25 man squad full of players, we've got a 22 man squad with gaps in it.

People please stop saying we're taking a risk by adding to a squad with an extra player; it's a fucking stupid argument.


if Hargreaves is gonna be available for the Champs League someone will have to make room - fact.

I'm not sure if you're allowed to drop your third keeper and replace him with a B list U21.


Don't need a 3rd keeper, you can replace injured keepers.
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:09 am

Champs Lg squad 'A' List: 25 players.

8 players must be 'locally trained' which can be 'association trained' or 'club trained'. Out of that 8 players a minimum of 4 must be be 'club trained'.

1 Hart club trained
2 Taylor association trained
3 Pantylemon

4 Richards club trained
5 Zabaleta
6 Toure, K
7 Lescott association trained
8 Kompany
9 Savic
10 Clichy association trained
11 Kolarov

12 De Jong
13 Barry association trained
14 Toure, Y
15 Milner association trained
16 Silva
17 Nasri
18 Johnson association trained


19 Aguero
20 Dzeko
21 Balotelli
22 Tevez
23 must be club trained
24 must be club trained

25 HARGREAVES
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby dazby » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:10 am

No fucking rags!!!!!!
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby Slim » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:27 am

Ted Hughes wrote:Champs Lg squad 'A' List: 25 players.

8 players must be 'locally trained' which can be 'association trained' or 'club trained'. Out of that 8 players a minimum of 4 must be be 'club trained'.

1 Hart club trained
2 Taylor association trained
3 Pantylemon

4 Richards club trained
5 Zabaleta
6 Toure, K
7 Lescott association trained
8 Kompany
9 Savic
10 Clichy association trained
11 Kolarov

12 De Jong
13 Barry association trained
14 Toure, Y
15 Milner association trained
16 Silva
17 Nasri
18 Johnson association trained


19 Aguero
20 Dzeko
21 Balotelli
22 Tevez
23 must be club trained
24 must be club trained

25 HARGREAVES


Balotelli and Savic are U21's.
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby johnny crossan » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:39 am

Slim wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Champs Lg squad 'A' List: 25 players.

8 players must be 'locally trained' which can be 'association trained' or 'club trained'. Out of that 8 players a minimum of 4 must be be 'club trained'.

1 Hart club trained
2 Taylor association trained
3 Pantylemon

4 Richards club trained
5 Zabaleta
6 Toure, K
7 Lescott association trained
8 Kompany
9 Savic
10 Clichy association trained
11 Kolarov

12 De Jong
13 Barry association trained
14 Toure, Y
15 Milner association trained
16 Silva
17 Nasri
18 Johnson association trained


19 Aguero
20 Dzeko
21 Balotelli
22 Tevez
23 must be club trained
24 must be club trained

25 HARGREAVES


Balotelli and Savic are U21's.
doesn't matter - they are not association trained so take up 2 placesin the A Squad. Sadly Joe Hart is not club trained only association trained - and therein lies the dilemma. Who makes room for Hargreaves?

I'm confident that UEFA regs (like the PL) say if you do not name 3 keepers in your A list you cannot have a substitute if one or more gets injured
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:39 am

Slim wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Champs Lg squad 'A' List: 25 players.

8 players must be 'locally trained' which can be 'association trained' or 'club trained'. Out of that 8 players a minimum of 4 must be be 'club trained'.

1 Hart club trained
2 Taylor association trained
3 Pantylemon

4 Richards club trained
5 Zabaleta
6 Toure, K
7 Lescott association trained
8 Kompany
9 Savic
10 Clichy association trained
11 Kolarov

12 De Jong
13 Barry association trained
14 Toure, Y
15 Milner association trained
16 Silva
17 Nasri
18 Johnson association trained


19 Aguero
20 Dzeko
21 Balotelli
22 Tevez
23 must be club trained
24 must be club trained

25 HARGREAVES


Balotelli and Savic are U21's.


According to the rules as I interpret them, the 'B' list (U21) players have to have been registered with the club for 2 years, which would make our recent aquisitions inelligible as U21's.

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Dow ... WNLOAD.pdf

It's on Page 28 at 18.17

If I'm being thick in my interpretation I'm quite happy to be corrected.
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:49 am

johnny crossan wrote:
Slim wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Champs Lg squad 'A' List: 25 players.

8 players must be 'locally trained' which can be 'association trained' or 'club trained'. Out of that 8 players a minimum of 4 must be be 'club trained'.

1 Hart club trained
2 Taylor association trained
3 Pantylemon

4 Richards club trained
5 Zabaleta
6 Toure, K
7 Lescott association trained
8 Kompany
9 Savic
10 Clichy association trained
11 Kolarov

12 De Jong
13 Barry association trained
14 Toure, Y
15 Milner association trained
16 Silva
17 Nasri
18 Johnson association trained


19 Aguero
20 Dzeko
21 Balotelli
22 Tevez
23 must be club trained
24 must be club trained

25 HARGREAVES


Balotelli and Savic are U21's.
doesn't matter - they are not association trained so take up 2 placesin the A Squad. Sadly Joe Hart is not club trained only association trained - and therin lies the dilemma. Who makes room for Hargreaves?

I'm confident that UEFA regs (like the PL) say if you do not name 3 keepers in your A list you cannot have a substitute if one or more gets injured


If Joe doesn't qualify it doesn't matter as, if your keeper gets injured seriously (enough to be out for 30 days Ithink it is) you can replace him. You can then, if you want, stick him back in when he's fit.

It says 'if a club cannot count on the services of at least two goalkeepers registered in list 'A' ...
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby phips » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:42 pm

just signed Hargreaves on a 1 yr...on the OS.
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby david yearsley » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:04 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Slim wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Champs Lg squad 'A' List: 25 players.

8 players must be 'locally trained' which can be 'association trained' or 'club trained'. Out of that 8 players a minimum of 4 must be be 'club trained'.

1 Hart club trained
2 Taylor association trained
3 Pantylemon

4 Richards club trained
5 Zabaleta
6 Toure, K
7 Lescott association trained
8 Kompany
9 Savic
10 Clichy association trained
11 Kolarov

12 De Jong
13 Barry association trained
14 Toure, Y
15 Milner association trained
16 Silva
17 Nasri
18 Johnson association trained


19 Aguero
20 Dzeko
21 Balotelli
22 Tevez
23 must be club trained
24 must be club trained

25 HARGREAVES


Balotelli and Savic are U21's.


According to the rules as I interpret them, the 'B' list (U21) players have to have been registered with the club for 2 years, which would make our recent aquisitions inelligible as U21's.

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Dow ... WNLOAD.pdf

It's on Page 28 at 18.17

If I'm being thick in my interpretation I'm quite happy to be corrected.

So who would be in line for the 2 club trained places then? Is Nimely still with us? Ned could be the other if he stays but will Bob name him ? Wabara maybe?
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby Green & Blue » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:24 pm

I sense a real buzz about the place for this deal
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:26 pm

david yearsley wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Slim wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Champs Lg squad 'A' List: 25 players.

8 players must be 'locally trained' which can be 'association trained' or 'club trained'. Out of that 8 players a minimum of 4 must be be 'club trained'.

1 Hart club trained
2 Taylor association trained
3 Pantylemon

4 Richards club trained
5 Zabaleta
6 Toure, K
7 Lescott association trained
8 Kompany
9 Savic
10 Clichy association trained
11 Kolarov

12 De Jong
13 Barry association trained
14 Toure, Y
15 Milner association trained
16 Silva
17 Nasri
18 Johnson association trained


19 Aguero
20 Dzeko
21 Balotelli
22 Tevez
23 must be club trained
24 must be club trained

25 HARGREAVES


Balotelli and Savic are U21's.


According to the rules as I interpret them, the 'B' list (U21) players have to have been registered with the club for 2 years, which would make our recent aquisitions inelligible as U21's.

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Dow ... WNLOAD.pdf

It's on Page 28 at 18.17

If I'm being thick in my interpretation I'm quite happy to be corrected.

So who would be in line for the 2 club trained places then? Is Nimely still with us? Ned could be the other if he stays but will Bob name him ? Wabara maybe?


If it means what I think it means then as far as senior players go, Ned & SWP could have gone in there but out of the others, all of those in the EDS barring the new boys would be eligible for the 'B' list, so qualify anyway. Presumably if we don't use Ned & dump SWP, we'll just leave the two spaces empty.
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Re: Owen Hargreaves Fitness Videos [Hargreaves To Sign For C

Postby david yearsley » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:23 pm

Not sure if I get this Ted - so if we leave 2 places unfilled it means we don´t need 2 extra club trained players - 4 plus 2 would suffice?
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