****Official City v Fulham Thread****

[guv111]

I think it was a mistake to rest Dzeko, he was on a roll.

My thoughts, too. He should have been played till he needed a rest, not cut off in his prime. A little rustiness and lack of match fitness can mean all the difference to someone who lives on his instincts and reflexes like a striker. I hate to use the Rags as an example, but Rooney was played even when out of form, and now he's scoring again he's virtually undroppable. Strikers on a goalscoring run should be undroppable, because you never know when a run of form might end.

[Beefymcfc]

The tiredness excuse is bollocks. Fulham played on Thursday.

Agreed. Just admit we were shite in the second half Bobby, don't get like Fergie with these excuses.

I think they were tired, he wasn't making excuses. What they should've asked is why only 2 changes from the team that played midweek or why he didn't rest a couple of players then.

[Blue Blood]

Mancini blew it again.
Leaves his warrior on the bench and expects him to come in with 8 minutes (again) and save his ass.
Aguero is on for goals for sure for sue.
However, he does squat to direct the game in an aggressive manner on the opposition the way Tevez and Silva do. He 'he hangs out' and waits for Dzeko to make good headers at him like for that 11 second goal.

Big Tevez fan by any chance...

Aguero is marvellous, he may not run at players like a headless chicken but he is a goal machine, he directly influences games with goals, I'm happy with that alone.

Was a bad day at the office today but the over reaction from some is insane.

13 points from 15 is totally acceptable, even though it should be 15 from 15.

Time to move on and focus on the game against Everton.

[Kladze]

Mancini blew it again.
Leaves his warrior on the bench and expects him to come in with 8 minutes (again) and save his ass.
Aguero is on for goals for sure for sue.
However, he does squat to direct the game in an aggressive manner on the opposition the way Tevez and Silva do. He 'he hangs out' and waits for Dzeko to make good headers at him like for that 11 second goal.

Big Tevez fan by any chance...

Aguero is marvellous, he may not run at players like a headless chicken but he is a goal machine, he directly influences games with goals, I'm happy with that alone.

Was a bad day at the office today but [highlight]the over reaction from some is insane.[/highlight]

13 points from 15 is totally acceptable, even though it should be 15 from 15.

Time to move on and focus on the game against Everton.

Maybe, but it's a nostalgic look back on the good old days of last season innit? ;-)

[Blue Blood]

Mancini blew it again.
Leaves his warrior on the bench and expects him to come in with 8 minutes (again) and save his ass.
Aguero is on for goals for sure for sue.
However, he does squat to direct the game in an aggressive manner on the opposition the way Tevez and Silva do. He 'he hangs out' and waits for Dzeko to make good headers at him like for that 11 second goal.

Big Tevez fan by any chance...

Aguero is marvellous, he may not run at players like a headless chicken but he is a goal machine, he directly influences games with goals, I'm happy with that alone.

Was a bad day at the office today but [highlight]the over reaction from some is insane.[/highlight]

13 points from 15 is totally acceptable, even though it should be 15 from 15.

Time to move on and focus on the game against Everton.

Maybe, but it's a nostalgic look back on the good old days of last season innit? ;-)

It's the kind of reaction akin to the dark days of the Hughes era.

Seriously things aren't bad people! Have a kit kat or something!

[Good Times]

We are not going to steam-roll every team that is placed before us.

Get a grip.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

We are not going to steam-roll every team that is placed before us.

Get a grip.

Now I hate comments like this. I don't think one person is suggesting we should win every game 5-0. However to let a two goal slip so carelessly against a poor side beggars belief.

[trueblue64]

5 games in a long way to go, there will be many twists and turns to come. Yes today really feels like a loss, but we did not loose I hope we will learn from it and get stronger. Bob will also learn from this as well I'm sure.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

The tiredness excuse is bollocks. Fulham played on Thursday.

Agreed. Just admit we were shite in the second half Bobby, don't get like Fergie with these excuses.

I think they were tired, he wasn't making excuses. What they should've asked is why only 2 changes from the team that played midweek or why he didn't rest a couple of players then.

I refuse to believe professional footballers can not play 2 matches in 5 days. If so there is serious problems with their fitness. We messed up big time today, nothing to do with tiredness

[david yearsley]

The tiredness excuse is bollocks. Fulham played on Thursday.

Agreed. Just admit we were shite in the second half Bobby, don't get like Fergie with these excuses.

I think they were tired, he wasn't making excuses. What they should've asked is why only 2 changes from the team that played midweek or why he didn't rest a couple of players then.

I refuse to believe professional footballers can not play 2 matches in 5 days. If so there is serious problems with their fitness. We messed up big time today, nothing to do with tiredness

Correct

How old is Danny fuclin Murphy? And Riise and Duff and Schwarzer and Zamora´s the wrong side of 30 - you get the picture

[Good Times]

We are not going to steam-roll every team that is placed before us.

Get a grip.

Now I hate comments like this. I don't think one person is suggesting we should win every game 5-0. However to let a two goal slip so carelessly against a poor side beggars belief.

We haven't won any games 5-0 this season but surely you can see that expectations are critical levels. I agree that we shouldn't have let the lead disappear but it's that over-confidence that has gathered momentum over the last few weeks (with fans as well as those more directly involved) that makes results like this so heart-wrenching.

Let's learn and move on.

[Bluemoon16]

No argument about Aguero being a scooring machine. However, Tevez is a game winner, thanks to him we finished 2nd last season and are playing CL football this season. Aguero and Dzeko both had a great start this year scoring most of City's goals, nevertheless, I can not see Aguero nor Dzeko winning a tight game single handedly. Tevez on the other hand as most of City fans know can inspire his team mates and win tight games single handedly. Again, for that to happen he needs to play 90min and not 8min as evident in both Napoli and Fulham games.
I agree that Tevez let fans down for wanting to ago away, but so was he last season with the exception that he remained a beast on the field. The way I see it Mancinin is trying to punish Tevez and as a consequence Tevez will never be a winning beast on the field again unless he plays 90min.
Mancini is only lucky to have talented players who can beat any teams including Barca and Real. Tactically however, he is not better than Arsene Wenger. If we compare both City and United players, City are far more talented individually, but United got a manager who is knows how to win games especially during injury times. Make the likes of Fergie or Mourinho manager of the current City squad and they will go unbeaten for years.
Fact is the team played well in the first half and tried to do somthin in the second, but I blame Mancini for losing us two points today.

[Beefymcfc]

The tiredness excuse is bollocks. Fulham played on Thursday.

Agreed. Just admit we were shite in the second half Bobby, don't get like Fergie with these excuses.

I think they were tired, he wasn't making excuses. What they should've asked is why only 2 changes from the team that played midweek or why he didn't rest a couple of players then.

I refuse to believe professional footballers can not play 2 matches in 5 days. If so there is serious problems with their fitness. We messed up big time today, nothing to do with tiredness

Do you think they looked tired in the 2nd half?

[ENIAM NAM]

No argument about Aguero being a scooring machine. However, Tevez is a game winner, thanks to him we finished 2nd last season and are playing CL football this season.

2nd last season! That makes us top at the moment. What's the problem?

[Blue Blood]

No argument about Aguero being a scooring machine. However, Tevez is a game winner, thanks to him we finished 2nd last season and are playing CL football this season. Aguero and Dzeko both had a great start this year scoring most of City's goals, nevertheless, I can not see Aguero nor Dzeko winning a tight game single handedly. Tevez on the other hand as most of City fans know can inspire his team mates and win tight games single handedly. Again, for that to happen he needs to play 90min and not 8min as evident in both Napoli and Fulham games.
I agree that Tevez let fans down for wanting to ago away, but so was he last season with the exception that he remained a beast on the field. The way I see it Mancinin is trying to punish Tevez and as a consequence Tevez will never be a winning beast on the field again unless he plays 90min.
Mancini is only lucky to have talented players who can beat any teams including Barca and Real. Tactically however, he is not better than Arsene Wenger. If we compare both City and United players, City are far more talented individually, but United got a manager who is knows how to win games especially during injury times. Make the likes of Fergie or Mourinho manager of the current City squad and they will go unbeaten for years.
Fact is the team played well in the first half and tried to do somthin in the second, but I blame Mancini for losing us two points today.

Bollocks.

No chance on this planet that either manager would go without a loss.

Bobby put this "unbeatable" team together and Bobby is the man to take it forward, Bacon and Mourinho make mistakes in equal measure to Bobby. You are a fool if you think they don't. Errors were made today by manager and players, it happens and we move on.

As for Tevez the reason he isn't starting is because he agitated for a move in the summer, failed to get his way and he continues agitate on the pitch now. Tevez is a 110% player, the fact that he is coming on and looking half assed is telling.

For all the talent he has I'd rather Bobby field players who want to play for us going forward than those who are just biding there time until the chance to leave arises again because let's not kid ourselves the Tevez transfer saga is in no way over just on hold.

Dzeko, Aguero, Silva and Nasri are all deservedly in the squad. They play for the team, Tevez if he starts would only be playing to get seen by another team, this frankly irks the fuck out of me.

Rant over.

[Bluemoon16]

No argument about Aguero being a scooring machine. However, Tevez is a game winner, thanks to him we finished 2nd last season and are playing CL football this season.

2nd last season! That makes us top at the moment. What's the problem?

At the moment, yes.. But if Mancini continous to make stupid decisions (Fulham) or make no decisions at all (Napoli) we will lose many games this year.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Time to chill. Getting player rotation right is easy if we win but can cause problems when we don't if it isnt handled really well.

So far we have no real idea why there has been so little rotation apart from the full backs and Tevez and Mario havent been given starts.I expect to see wholesale changes for Wednesday but in the key games Mancini has got to work out how to make changes and keep all the players happy and keep getting good results. No problems at the moment but only time will tell

[Bluemoon16]

No argument about Aguero being a scooring machine. However, Tevez is a game winner, thanks to him we finished 2nd last season and are playing CL football this season. Aguero and Dzeko both had a great start this year scoring most of City's goals, nevertheless, I can not see Aguero nor Dzeko winning a tight game single handedly. Tevez on the other hand as most of City fans know can inspire his team mates and win tight games single handedly. Again, for that to happen he needs to play 90min and not 8min as evident in both Napoli and Fulham games.
I agree that Tevez let fans down for wanting to ago away, but so was he last season with the exception that he remained a beast on the field. The way I see it Mancinin is trying to punish Tevez and as a consequence Tevez will never be a winning beast on the field again unless he plays 90min.
Mancini is only lucky to have talented players who can beat any teams including Barca and Real. Tactically however, he is not better than Arsene Wenger. If we compare both City and United players, City are far more talented individually, but United got a manager who is knows how to win games especially during injury times. Make the likes of Fergie or Mourinho manager of the current City squad and they will go unbeaten for years.
Fact is the team played well in the first half and tried to do somthin in the second, but I blame Mancini for losing us two points today.

Bollocks.

No chance on this planet that either manager would go without a loss.

Bobby put this "unbeatable" team together and Bobby is the man to take it forward, Bacon and Mourinho make mistakes in equal measure to Bobby. You are a fool if you think they don't. Errors were made today by manager and players, it happens and we move on.

As for Tevez the reason he isn't starting is because he agitated for a move in the summer, failed to get his way and he continues agitate on the pitch now. [size=200]Tevez is a 110% player, the fact that he is coming on and looking half assed is telling[/size].

For all the talent he has I'd rather Bobby field players who want to play for us going forward than those who are just biding there time until the chance to leave arises again because let's not kid ourselves the Tevez transfer saga is in no way over just on hold.

Dzeko, Aguero, Silva and Nasri are all deservedly in the squad. They play for the team, Tevez if he starts would only be playing to get seen by another team, this frankly irks the fuck out of me.

Rant over.

I said Tevez needs to be played 90min to get the best out of him. He started at the Wigan game and created so many chances(missed a penalty) and in my view he was the best player on the field. Bobby subbed him in the 60min or somthing just like he did today with silva. And the Wigan game reminds me that he didnt play Dzeko that has scored 4 goals the previous game. Now, how on earth you rest a player who is on goal scoring streak, Ive never seen Messi nor Ronaldo being rested even when they play teams in the lowest ranks.

[zuricity]

Would it be out of order to say "Well done Fulham, you upped your game in the second half and we weren't expecting that . We thought you would roll over and die. Like Spurs, Bolton, Arsenal did against United ?" ( thought WBA and Chelsea were damn unlucky against United).

[Blue Blood]

No argument about Aguero being a scooring machine. However, Tevez is a game winner, thanks to him we finished 2nd last season and are playing CL football this season. Aguero and Dzeko both had a great start this year scoring most of City's goals, nevertheless, I can not see Aguero nor Dzeko winning a tight game single handedly. Tevez on the other hand as most of City fans know can inspire his team mates and win tight games single handedly. Again, for that to happen he needs to play 90min and not 8min as evident in both Napoli and Fulham games.
I agree that Tevez let fans down for wanting to ago away, but so was he last season with the exception that he remained a beast on the field. The way I see it Mancinin is trying to punish Tevez and as a consequence Tevez will never be a winning beast on the field again unless he plays 90min.
Mancini is only lucky to have talented players who can beat any teams including Barca and Real. Tactically however, he is not better than Arsene Wenger. If we compare both City and United players, City are far more talented individually, but United got a manager who is knows how to win games especially during injury times. Make the likes of Fergie or Mourinho manager of the current City squad and they will go unbeaten for years.
Fact is the team played well in the first half and tried to do somthin in the second, but I blame Mancini for losing us two points today.

Bollocks.

No chance on this planet that either manager would go without a loss.

Bobby put this "unbeatable" team together and Bobby is the man to take it forward, Bacon and Mourinho make mistakes in equal measure to Bobby. You are a fool if you think they don't. Errors were made today by manager and players, it happens and we move on.

As for Tevez the reason he isn't starting is because he agitated for a move in the summer, failed to get his way and he continues agitate on the pitch now. [size=200]Tevez is a 110% player, the fact that he is coming on and looking half assed is telling[/size].

For all the talent he has I'd rather Bobby field players who want to play for us going forward than those who are just biding there time until the chance to leave arises again because let's not kid ourselves the Tevez transfer saga is in no way over just on hold.

Dzeko, Aguero, Silva and Nasri are all deservedly in the squad. They play for the team, Tevez if he starts would only be playing to get seen by another team, this frankly irks the fuck out of me.

Rant over.

I said Tevez needs to be played 90min to get the best out of him. He started at the Wigan game and created so many chances(missed a penalty) and in my view he was the best player on the field. Bobby subbed him in the 60min or somthing just like he did today with silva. And the Wigan game reminds me that he didnt play Dzeko that has scored 4 goals the previous game. Now, how on earth you rest a player who is on goal scoring streak, Ive never seen Messi nor Ronaldo being rested even when they play teams in the lowest ranks.

Messi and Ron do get rested, it doesn't happen alot but they do. Mancini decision to rest Dzeko is a bit of a non point anyways as we cruised past wigan.

As for Carlito, I can't be bothered arguing a case for or against him starting, he'll play on Weds a full 90 against brum for sure, let him do the talking the pitch then.

Fight to get in OUR team Carlos.