New striker in jan

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Ted just look where Sturridge is now and look where Evans is? Sturridge is a far, far superior player. He wasn't that great for us but he showed flashes of real quality. Just look at that Backheel he scored, that took brilliant execution. I don't see why you think Welbeck and Sturridge will end up at West Brom or whoever, they're both doing very well for their respective clubs.

[bluej]

Ted just look where Sturridge is now and look where Evans is? Sturridge is a far, far superior player. He wasn't that great for us but he showed flashes of real quality. [highlight]Just look at that Backheel he scored, that took brilliant execution.[/highlight] I don't see why you think Welbeck and Sturridge will end up at West Brom or whoever, they're both doing very well for their respective clubs.

If Wes Brown wasn't a total mong then that wouldn't have gone in.

[Ted Hughes]

Ted just look where Sturridge is now and look where Evans is? Sturridge is a far, far superior player. He wasn't that great for us but he showed flashes of real quality. Just look at that Backheel he scored, that took brilliant execution. I don't see why you think Welbeck and Sturridge will end up at West Brom or whoever, they're both doing very well for their respective clubs.

I thought I'd made it pretty clear that I was comparing them at pre 1st team level & making the point that Evans deserved his chance at the time, due to playing better than Sturridge in the lower teams only to be found out at 1st team level.

I don't think Sturridege, Wellbeck, Cleverley or any of the other raglets currently on loan, most of the England U21 squad & most other so called 'England players of the future' currently getting the hype, are anything more tham mid table PL to mid table Championship standard & I believe that's where they will end up.

As a marker to judge them, compared to top quality, look at Sturridge for instance at 22 & compare him to Shearer at that age or Owen at 19 or Fowler at 18 or any of the other top strikers of the past. Compare Cleverley to Gazza or Gerrard or Scholes or even SWP or fucking Mcmanaman.

They are not even on the same planet. There is a lack of English talent in that age group, so slightly above average English players are getting the bullshit treatment. Sturridge will be gone, if & when Roman gets his cheque book out again. He's a stop gap who is doing ok in a good side but he's only in the team because others aren't performing. He's got Wolves or Sunderland written all over him.

[bluechester]

What about the lad from sunderland, Gyan, now in middle east, sure he would want to come to us, plus dont think he would cost mega bucks, think sunderland would be happy to get there money back, so maybe a cheeky £10 to £12 mil bid would do it, not a bad price for a 4th choice striker, who could do a job for us

[Ted Hughes]

What about the lad from sunderland, Gyan, now in middle east, sure he would want to come to us, plus dont think he would cost mega bucks, think sunderland would be happy to get there money back, so maybe a cheeky £10 to £12 mil bid would do it, not a bad price for a 4th choice striker, who could do a job for us

He was an impressive player but seems to be as much of a twat as Tevez. Give him big money & his head will get bigger & bigger he'll shit on us just the same.

[phips]

What about the lad from sunderland, Gyan, now in middle east, sure he would want to come to us, plus dont think he would cost mega bucks, think sunderland would be happy to get there money back, so maybe a cheeky £10 to £12 mil bid would do it, not a bad price for a 4th choice striker, who could do a job for us

He was an impressive player but seems to be as much of a twat as Tevez. Give him big money & his head will get bigger & bigger he'll shit on us just the same.

I dont see any way he would handle not playing every game...which he surely wouldnt if he came here.

[twosips]

Ted just look where Sturridge is now and look where Evans is? Sturridge is a far, far superior player. He wasn't that great for us but he showed flashes of real quality. Just look at that Backheel he scored, that took brilliant execution. I don't see why you think Welbeck and Sturridge will end up at West Brom or whoever, they're both doing very well for their respective clubs.

I thought I'd made it pretty clear that I was comparing them at pre 1st team level & making the point that Evans deserved his chance at the time, due to playing better than Sturridge in the lower teams only to be found out at 1st team level.

I don't think Sturridege, Wellbeck, Cleverley or any of the other raglets currently on loan, most of the England U21 squad & most other so called 'England players of the future' currently getting the hype, are anything more tham mid table PL to mid table Championship standard & I believe that's where they will end up.

As a marker to judge them, compared to top quality, look at Sturridge for instance at 22 & compare him to Shearer at that age or Owen at 19 or Fowler at 18 or any of the other top strikers of the past. Compare Cleverley to Gazza or Gerrard or Scholes or even SWP or fucking Mcmanaman.

They are not even on the same planet. There is a lack of English talent in that age group, so slightly above average English players are getting the bullshit treatment. Sturridge will be gone, if & when Roman gets his cheque book out again. He's a stop gap who is doing ok in a good side but he's only in the team because others aren't performing. He's got Wolves or Sunderland written all over him.

The age thing is highly flawed...Michael Owen started early and pretty much faded out by his mid-twenties! Zidane and Drogba got nowhere near their peak until their mid to late twenties at the other end of the scale.

All the players you mentioned are still young. They may not become great, but they have potential. It's obvious.

[Ted Hughes]

Ted just look where Sturridge is now and look where Evans is? Sturridge is a far, far superior player. He wasn't that great for us but he showed flashes of real quality. Just look at that Backheel he scored, that took brilliant execution. I don't see why you think Welbeck and Sturridge will end up at West Brom or whoever, they're both doing very well for their respective clubs.

I thought I'd made it pretty clear that I was comparing them at pre 1st team level & making the point that Evans deserved his chance at the time, due to playing better than Sturridge in the lower teams only to be found out at 1st team level.

I don't think Sturridege, Wellbeck, Cleverley or any of the other raglets currently on loan, most of the England U21 squad & most other so called 'England players of the future' currently getting the hype, are anything more tham mid table PL to mid table Championship standard & I believe that's where they will end up.

As a marker to judge them, compared to top quality, look at Sturridge for instance at 22 & compare him to Shearer at that age or Owen at 19 or Fowler at 18 or any of the other top strikers of the past. Compare Cleverley to Gazza or Gerrard or Scholes or even SWP or fucking Mcmanaman.

They are not even on the same planet. There is a lack of English talent in that age group, so slightly above average English players are getting the bullshit treatment. Sturridge will be gone, if & when Roman gets his cheque book out again. He's a stop gap who is doing ok in a good side but he's only in the team because others aren't performing. He's got Wolves or Sunderland written all over him.

The age thing is highly flawed...Michael Owen started early and pretty much faded out by his mid-twenties! Zidane and Drogba got nowhere near their peak until their mid to late twenties at the other end of the scale.

All the players you mentioned are still young. They may not become great, but they have potential. It's obvious.

Exactly. They have potential. Sturridge at 22 has potential...to be... centre forward for Sunderland, when he gets a bit older. Then, as he gets a bit disillusioned & loses a bit of pace, off he goes to Boro possibly linking up with a fat, greying Joey Barton.

[Dingus McDouchey]

Odemwingie or Rodellega. Good premiership strikers who would not be cup tied in Europe, who would be making a step up to a top team. Would probably have to overpay for them, because they are so valuable to their respective teams. Not Andy Carroll money, mind (pmsl). Would probably take Rodellega of the two. Adebayor without the baggage?

[twosips]

Ted just look where Sturridge is now and look where Evans is? Sturridge is a far, far superior player. He wasn't that great for us but he showed flashes of real quality. Just look at that Backheel he scored, that took brilliant execution. I don't see why you think Welbeck and Sturridge will end up at West Brom or whoever, they're both doing very well for their respective clubs.

I thought I'd made it pretty clear that I was comparing them at pre 1st team level & making the point that Evans deserved his chance at the time, due to playing better than Sturridge in the lower teams only to be found out at 1st team level.

I don't think Sturridege, Wellbeck, Cleverley or any of the other raglets currently on loan, most of the England U21 squad & most other so called 'England players of the future' currently getting the hype, are anything more tham mid table PL to mid table Championship standard & I believe that's where they will end up.

As a marker to judge them, compared to top quality, look at Sturridge for instance at 22 & compare him to Shearer at that age or Owen at 19 or Fowler at 18 or any of the other top strikers of the past. Compare Cleverley to Gazza or Gerrard or Scholes or even SWP or fucking Mcmanaman.

They are not even on the same planet. There is a lack of English talent in that age group, so slightly above average English players are getting the bullshit treatment. Sturridge will be gone, if & when Roman gets his cheque book out again. He's a stop gap who is doing ok in a good side but he's only in the team because others aren't performing. He's got Wolves or Sunderland written all over him.

The age thing is highly flawed...Michael Owen started early and pretty much faded out by his mid-twenties! Zidane and Drogba got nowhere near their peak until their mid to late twenties at the other end of the scale.

All the players you mentioned are still young. They may not become great, but they have potential. It's obvious.

Exactly. They have potential. Sturridge at 22 has potential...to be... centre forward for Sunderland, when he gets a bit older. Then, as he gets a bit disillusioned & loses a bit of pace, off he goes to Boro possibly linking up with a fat, greying Joey Barton.

That's where we disagree. If he has the potential to be a centre forward for Sunderland how come he's starting now for Chelsea and scoring goals and how come AVB refused to loan him out again saying he'd be a big player for Chelsea?

It could go either way, yes, but i'm not so pig-eyed to refuse to believe that if he wants it enough he could quite clearly go to the top. He has everything in place. There are very few weaknesses to his game and he's getting better every week.

[PeterParker]

I really think that Bob's most important target is Cavani, but i don't think he will go for him this winter with all the UEFA fair play stuff. Maybe in the summer he will go after him (and de Rossi), that's why we won't see o huge name.
Cerci looks like the best option, although he is a winger, but i would rather buy an asian fella, that would boost up our marketing income.

[Ted Hughes]

Ted just look where Sturridge is now and look where Evans is? Sturridge is a far, far superior player. He wasn't that great for us but he showed flashes of real quality. Just look at that Backheel he scored, that took brilliant execution. I don't see why you think Welbeck and Sturridge will end up at West Brom or whoever, they're both doing very well for their respective clubs.

I thought I'd made it pretty clear that I was comparing them at pre 1st team level & making the point that Evans deserved his chance at the time, due to playing better than Sturridge in the lower teams only to be found out at 1st team level.

I don't think Sturridege, Wellbeck, Cleverley or any of the other raglets currently on loan, most of the England U21 squad & most other so called 'England players of the future' currently getting the hype, are anything more tham mid table PL to mid table Championship standard & I believe that's where they will end up.

As a marker to judge them, compared to top quality, look at Sturridge for instance at 22 & compare him to Shearer at that age or Owen at 19 or Fowler at 18 or any of the other top strikers of the past. Compare Cleverley to Gazza or Gerrard or Scholes or even SWP or fucking Mcmanaman.

They are not even on the same planet. There is a lack of English talent in that age group, so slightly above average English players are getting the bullshit treatment. Sturridge will be gone, if & when Roman gets his cheque book out again. He's a stop gap who is doing ok in a good side but he's only in the team because others aren't performing. He's got Wolves or Sunderland written all over him.

The age thing is highly flawed...Michael Owen started early and pretty much faded out by his mid-twenties! Zidane and Drogba got nowhere near their peak until their mid to late twenties at the other end of the scale.

All the players you mentioned are still young. They may not become great, but they have potential. It's obvious.

Exactly. They have potential. Sturridge at 22 has potential...to be... centre forward for Sunderland, when he gets a bit older. Then, as he gets a bit disillusioned & loses a bit of pace, off he goes to Boro possibly linking up with a fat, greying Joey Barton.

That's where we disagree. If he has the potential to be a centre forward for Sunderland how come he's starting now for Chelsea and scoring goals and how come AVB refused to loan him out again saying he'd be a big player for Chelsea?

It could go either way, yes, but i'm not so pig-eyed to refuse to believe that if he wants it enough he could quite clearly go to the top. He has everything in place. There are very few weaknesses to his game and he's getting better every week.

Who else would you use to rotate players if you were Chelsea manager ? He has 4 competitions same as us. We.ve used 4 established strikers & are talking about who replaces Tevez, he only has 2. If he had our strikers, Sturridge would have been playing for Bolton last weekend.

[Fidel Castro]

Rodallega is a good shout

[Ted Hughes]

I think that if we're going to spend decent money, we need someone less 'hit & miss' than Rodellega. He's not the most reliable of finishers. Imo, we either need another Balotelli, who can grow with the club & is therefore worth having for more than just this season, or a veteran, proven, striker who we just use for 6 months to help finish the season.

No point in spending decent money on a mid quality player just to make up the numbers. They'll just scuff the chance when we need them & end up sat on the wage bill.

[Tokyo Blue]

I really think that Bob's most important target is Cavani, but i don't think he will go for him this winter with all the UEFA fair play stuff. Maybe in the summer he will go after him (and de Rossi), that's why we won't see o huge name.
Cerci looks like the best option, although he is a winger, but i would rather buy an asian fella, that would boost up our marketing income.

For marketing reasons I'd agree but if you see one good enough, give us a shout, mate. I can't find one. As far as Japan is concerned, Kagawa isn't quite there yet imo. Hasebe might work though. Not seen much of South Korea and China have really gone off the rails (match fixing has affected them enormously). Western Asia I know very little about. A lot of the countries in Asia are outside the world top 70 so even if we discovered a world class player, he wouldn't get a visa.

[PeterParker]

I really think that Bob's most important target is Cavani, but i don't think he will go for him this winter with all the UEFA fair play stuff. Maybe in the summer he will go after him (and de Rossi), that's why we won't see o huge name.
Cerci looks like the best option, although he is a winger, but i would rather buy an asian fella, that would boost up our marketing income.

For marketing reasons I'd agree but if you see one good enough, give us a shout, mate. I can't find one. As far as Japan is concerned, Kagawa isn't quite there yet imo. Hasebe might work though. Not seen much of South Korea and China have really gone off the rails (match fixing has affected them enormously). Western Asia I know very little about. A lot of the countries in Asia are outside the world top 70 so even if we discovered a world class player, he wouldn't get a visa.

Hasebe is a class player, but he plays as a defensive midfilder and that position is full in our squad. If it wasen't injured, i would say Honda, although he looks like a "Nakata" player, more playboy than footballer. I saw a thew games from J League on Eurosport and there where some quality games and i was really impressed by a lad called Haraguchi, he was last time i checked at Urawa Red Diamonds.

PS: Hamburg had/has a koreean lad who was one of their best players last season, can't remember his name though.

[anthonytomo]

PS: Hamburg had/has a koreean lad who was one of their best players last season, can't remember his name though.

Wouldn't bother with anyone from hamburg, look at the shit we've got from there in the past ;o)

[bigblue]

someone from Asia (Korea, Japan, China) would be great. Massive market potential and hopefully they have some talent too. Not to stereotype too much, but Asians usually put their head don't and work hard without moaning, which we would need from a 4th pace striker. We don't need a world beater, just someone who keeps their mouth shut and can tap in all the chances that our midfield creates.

[jono1978]

Taarabt from QPR anyone?

[Ted Hughes]

Taarabt from QPR anyone?

Elano MK II.