feedthegreek wrote:if that report is true more fool mancini imo.
should not be crawling to tevez end of.
Duckman wrote:just saw roberto's press conference,
it seems that little cunt is going to be in selection to play at some point.
this would be sooo so wrong.
the owner is basically fuckin mancini over, don't you think?!?
Ted Hughes wrote:Duckman wrote:just saw roberto's press conference,
it seems that little cunt is going to be in selection to play at some point.
this would be sooo so wrong.
the owner is basically fuckin mancini over, don't you think?!?
No. Whatever happens will be Bob's decision.
Ted Hughes wrote:Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Some people on here need to get over themselves. Yes he's a cunt for what he did but why lower ourselves to his level? What's the point in putting so much time and effort into trying to end his career which will ultimately just be a disruption? Just sell him in January and end the matter.
So if we sack him he's a disruption, but having him hanging around the training ground til Jan, talking to the players, causing unrest, with Kia planting another story in the press every day, another transfer rumour every day, threatening to sue us for constructive dismissal if we don't have a plan of playing him, isn't a disruption ? And if nobody offers more than zero for him in Jan, presumably we just pay off the remaining millions of his contract allowing him to become a free agent, then watch as he strolls off into the sunset with our money & gets a huge signing on fee with someone else? Or do we carry on til summer, then do it?
Hmm. Good plan?
I hope City don't bottle out the same way.
Ted Hughes wrote:I don't believe this 'report' about Mancini asking Tevez to apologise at this stage because to do so would predjudice Tevez' legal position & be an acceptance of guilt. It could allow us to sack him & sue him for tens of millions.
I can believe Mancini could have said to Tevez that he can return to the squad if he apologises for his behaviour after the case has been dealt with. Thus his puishment would have been agreed & he would no longer be under threat of the sack/legal measures.
If he did ask him to apologise, then it was a nice try but Tevez has technically done the right thing.
brite blu sky wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I don't believe this 'report' about Mancini asking Tevez to apologise at this stage because to do so would predjudice Tevez' legal position & be an acceptance of guilt. It could allow us to sack him & sue him for tens of millions.
I can believe Mancini could have said to Tevez that he can return to the squad if he apologises for his behaviour after the case has been dealt with. Thus his puishment would have been agreed & he would no longer be under threat of the sack/legal measures.
If he did ask him to apologise, then it was a nice try but Tevez has technically done the right thing.
That sounds about right imo, laying down the boundaries of how it is going to be, post disciplinary action. Once that is out of the way then it would be up to Tevez to make a full apology, publically. That would force the issue one way or the other in terms of whether or not Tevez himself wants to play for Manchester City or not. It also forces the acknowledgment by Tevez that if he does want to play for the team then he must subjugate his own ego, any advice or advisors and everything else to the wishes of the manger and the chairman by the very act of publically apologising.
Regardless of how the press report this, it is actually very good politics by the club. they are forcing the issue onto Tevez himself without revealing their own wishes or intentions. EG: Tevez could in theory re-affirm he wanted to stay in M/c and wants for the time being to play for the Club.. so he will have to publically apologise (after the discipline). However the club could then simply turn round and say, that's great Carlos you fat bitch but we had already decided that you are toast so you will sit in your own stew till someone comes in with an offer acceptable to us.
Ted Hughes wrote:brite blu sky wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I don't believe this 'report' about Mancini asking Tevez to apologise at this stage because to do so would predjudice Tevez' legal position & be an acceptance of guilt. It could allow us to sack him & sue him for tens of millions.
I can believe Mancini could have said to Tevez that he can return to the squad if he apologises for his behaviour after the case has been dealt with. Thus his puishment would have been agreed & he would no longer be under threat of the sack/legal measures.
If he did ask him to apologise, then it was a nice try but Tevez has technically done the right thing.
That sounds about right imo, laying down the boundaries of how it is going to be, post disciplinary action. Once that is out of the way then it would be up to Tevez to make a full apology, publically. That would force the issue one way or the other in terms of whether or not Tevez himself wants to play for Manchester City or not. It also forces the acknowledgment by Tevez that if he does want to play for the team then he must subjugate his own ego, any advice or advisors and everything else to the wishes of the manger and the chairman by the very act of publically apologising.
Regardless of how the press report this, it is actually very good politics by the club. they are forcing the issue onto Tevez himself without revealing their own wishes or intentions. EG: Tevez could in theory re-affirm he wanted to stay in M/c and wants for the time being to play for the Club.. so he will have to publically apologise (after the discipline). However the club could then simply turn round and say, that's great Carlos you fat bitch but we had already decided that you are toast so you will sit in your own stew till someone comes in with an offer acceptable to us.
That's probably why Tevez will say nothing so as not to prejudice his case in any way.
Personally I really don't like Bob's reply that he 'doesn't know' if Tevez will play for City again, but I believe (and hope) that Bob is probably just doing the same as Tevez & making sure he doesn't prejudice the case by any kind of comment.
And, with Juventus believed to be amongst those interested in Tevez, Moggi has advised the club to reconsider any such transfer.
"Buying a dressing room breaker like Carlos Tevez in January would be the biggest disaster ever that could hit Juventus who are in the process of rebuilding," Moggi wrote in his Tuttomercatoweb column.
bigblue wrote:everyone around football is turning on tevez. Juventez is being "warned" to steer clear
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... ng?cc=5901And, with Juventus believed to be amongst those interested in Tevez, Moggi has advised the club to reconsider any such transfer.
"Buying a dressing room breaker like Carlos Tevez in January would be the biggest disaster ever that could hit Juventus who are in the process of rebuilding," Moggi wrote in his Tuttomercatoweb column.
bluej wrote:bigblue wrote:everyone around football is turning on tevez. Juventez is being "warned" to steer clear
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... ng?cc=5901And, with Juventus believed to be amongst those interested in Tevez, Moggi has advised the club to reconsider any such transfer.
"Buying a dressing room breaker like Carlos Tevez in January would be the biggest disaster ever that could hit Juventus who are in the process of rebuilding," Moggi wrote in his Tuttomercatoweb column.
The minute he's available for £20m, Juventus would be there straight away, past discrepancies or not. Someone will come in for him if he's on the cheap which is why we come to the best arrangement for us, regardless of how it impacts on him.
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