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Re: Tevez

Postby eastlandsblue.co.uk » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:30 pm

Following Carlo’s behaviour at the end of last season and during the summer break, Mancini had to accept him back in the knowledge that he would probably go in the next transfer window, consequently, his status was diminished within the squad. His refusal in Munich was a reaction to the loss of his captaincy, lack of starts and being benched in an important game.

City have proved that they could win without Tevez ever since we beat the Reds at Wembley and now he finds himself not at the centre of Mancini’s plans. Being at the wrong end of the rotation system obviously upsets Carlo’s ego and this act of contrition means he no longer has a future at Eastlands and he should go ASAP

Bye, Bye Carlos, pity though, you could have been a legend instead if an selfish idiot
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Re: Tevez

Postby Dendza » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:30 am

Tevez is disgrace for football.
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Re: Tevez

Postby RodneyRodney » Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:15 am

What an absolute total twat !

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ncini.html

Complete utter prick.

After this , if Don Mancini has any , um , Sicilian friends , I wouldn't be suprised if he's on the phone to them now. . . .
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Re: Tevez

Postby feedthegreek » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:32 am

if that report is true more fool mancini imo.
should not be crawling to tevez end of.
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Re: Tevez

Postby Kladze » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:26 am

feedthegreek wrote:if that report is true more fool mancini imo.
should not be crawling to tevez end of.


He's just playing the same public relations game that Tevez is playing.
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Re: Tevez

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:32 am

I've read 3 different versions of that story this morning and that looks to be agenda driven, or at least, the worst informed. The other 2 give more of an unbiased opinion and I found them quite interesting.
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Re: Tevez

Postby feedthegreek » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:53 am

mancini was asked if tevez would play again for city and he said he doesnt know.
that was after the press were told no questions about tevez.

2 minute interview here with mancini.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15306672.stm
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Re: Tevez

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:11 am

I don't believe this 'report' about Mancini asking Tevez to apologise at this stage because to do so would predjudice Tevez' legal position & be an acceptance of guilt. It could allow us to sack him & sue him for tens of millions.

I can believe Mancini could have said to Tevez that he can return to the squad if he apologises for his behaviour after the case has been dealt with. Thus his puishment would have been agreed & he would no longer be under threat of the sack/legal measures.

If he did ask him to apologise, then it was a nice try but Tevez has technically done the right thing.
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Re: Tevez

Postby Duckman » Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:59 am

just saw roberto's press conference,

it seems that little cunt is going to be in selection to play at some point.

this would be sooo so wrong.

the owner is basically fuckin mancini over, don't you think?!?
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Re: Tevez

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:01 pm

Duckman wrote:just saw roberto's press conference,

it seems that little cunt is going to be in selection to play at some point.

this would be sooo so wrong.

the owner is basically fuckin mancini over, don't you think?!?


No. Whatever happens will be Bob's decision.
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Re: Tevez

Postby Duckman » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:07 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Duckman wrote:just saw roberto's press conference,

it seems that little cunt is going to be in selection to play at some point.

this would be sooo so wrong.

the owner is basically fuckin mancini over, don't you think?!?


No. Whatever happens will be Bob's decision.


So, Bob made a mistake by saying the cunt is finished as long as he is in charge?

I hope we dont use him, and sell him to whoever in january. just get him out. malignant cunt.
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Re: Tevez

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:25 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Some people on here need to get over themselves. Yes he's a cunt for what he did but why lower ourselves to his level? What's the point in putting so much time and effort into trying to end his career which will ultimately just be a disruption? Just sell him in January and end the matter.


So if we sack him he's a disruption, but having him hanging around the training ground til Jan, talking to the players, causing unrest, with Kia planting another story in the press every day, another transfer rumour every day, threatening to sue us for constructive dismissal if we don't have a plan of playing him, isn't a disruption ? And if nobody offers more than zero for him in Jan, presumably we just pay off the remaining millions of his contract allowing him to become a free agent, then watch as he strolls off into the sunset with our money & gets a huge signing on fee with someone else? Or do we carry on til summer, then do it?

Hmm. Good plan?

I hope City don't bottle out the same way.

Just keep him in the reserves. Sell to the highest bidder in January to a foreign side. Simple.
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Re: Tevez

Postby brite blu sky » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:15 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:I don't believe this 'report' about Mancini asking Tevez to apologise at this stage because to do so would predjudice Tevez' legal position & be an acceptance of guilt. It could allow us to sack him & sue him for tens of millions.

I can believe Mancini could have said to Tevez that he can return to the squad if he apologises for his behaviour after the case has been dealt with. Thus his puishment would have been agreed & he would no longer be under threat of the sack/legal measures.

If he did ask him to apologise, then it was a nice try but Tevez has technically done the right thing.



That sounds about right imo, laying down the boundaries of how it is going to be, post disciplinary action. Once that is out of the way then it would be up to Tevez to make a full apology, publically. That would force the issue one way or the other in terms of whether or not Tevez himself wants to play for Manchester City or not. It also forces the acknowledgment by Tevez that if he does want to play for the team then he must subjugate his own ego, any advice or advisors and everything else to the wishes of the manger and the chairman by the very act of publically apologising.

Regardless of how the press report this, it is actually very good politics by the club. they are forcing the issue onto Tevez himself without revealing their own wishes or intentions. EG: Tevez could in theory re-affirm he wanted to stay in M/c and wants for the time being to play for the Club.. so he will have to publically apologise (after the discipline). However the club could then simply turn round and say, that's great Carlos you fat bitch but we had already decided that you are toast so you will sit in your own stew till someone comes in with an offer acceptable to us.
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Re: Tevez

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:34 pm

brite blu sky wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I don't believe this 'report' about Mancini asking Tevez to apologise at this stage because to do so would predjudice Tevez' legal position & be an acceptance of guilt. It could allow us to sack him & sue him for tens of millions.

I can believe Mancini could have said to Tevez that he can return to the squad if he apologises for his behaviour after the case has been dealt with. Thus his puishment would have been agreed & he would no longer be under threat of the sack/legal measures.

If he did ask him to apologise, then it was a nice try but Tevez has technically done the right thing.



That sounds about right imo, laying down the boundaries of how it is going to be, post disciplinary action. Once that is out of the way then it would be up to Tevez to make a full apology, publically. That would force the issue one way or the other in terms of whether or not Tevez himself wants to play for Manchester City or not. It also forces the acknowledgment by Tevez that if he does want to play for the team then he must subjugate his own ego, any advice or advisors and everything else to the wishes of the manger and the chairman by the very act of publically apologising.

Regardless of how the press report this, it is actually very good politics by the club. they are forcing the issue onto Tevez himself without revealing their own wishes or intentions. EG: Tevez could in theory re-affirm he wanted to stay in M/c and wants for the time being to play for the Club.. so he will have to publically apologise (after the discipline). However the club could then simply turn round and say, that's great Carlos you fat bitch but we had already decided that you are toast so you will sit in your own stew till someone comes in with an offer acceptable to us.


That's probably why Tevez will say nothing so as not to prejudice his case in any way.

Personally I really don't like Bob's reply that he 'doesn't know' if Tevez will play for City again, but I believe (and hope) that Bob is probably just doing the same as Tevez & making sure he doesn't prejudice the case by any kind of comment.
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Re: Tevez

Postby aaron bond » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:01 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
brite blu sky wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I don't believe this 'report' about Mancini asking Tevez to apologise at this stage because to do so would predjudice Tevez' legal position & be an acceptance of guilt. It could allow us to sack him & sue him for tens of millions.

I can believe Mancini could have said to Tevez that he can return to the squad if he apologises for his behaviour after the case has been dealt with. Thus his puishment would have been agreed & he would no longer be under threat of the sack/legal measures.

If he did ask him to apologise, then it was a nice try but Tevez has technically done the right thing.



That sounds about right imo, laying down the boundaries of how it is going to be, post disciplinary action. Once that is out of the way then it would be up to Tevez to make a full apology, publically. That would force the issue one way or the other in terms of whether or not Tevez himself wants to play for Manchester City or not. It also forces the acknowledgment by Tevez that if he does want to play for the team then he must subjugate his own ego, any advice or advisors and everything else to the wishes of the manger and the chairman by the very act of publically apologising.

Regardless of how the press report this, it is actually very good politics by the club. they are forcing the issue onto Tevez himself without revealing their own wishes or intentions. EG: Tevez could in theory re-affirm he wanted to stay in M/c and wants for the time being to play for the Club.. so he will have to publically apologise (after the discipline). However the club could then simply turn round and say, that's great Carlos you fat bitch but we had already decided that you are toast so you will sit in your own stew till someone comes in with an offer acceptable to us.


That's probably why Tevez will say nothing so as not to prejudice his case in any way.

Personally I really don't like Bob's reply that he 'doesn't know' if Tevez will play for City again, but I believe (and hope) that Bob is probably just doing the same as Tevez & making sure he doesn't prejudice the case by any kind of comment.


I think this situation is going to end with a large fine for Tevez with a possible suspension, and then we sell him when we receive a decent offer.

Therefore, I believe the club have told Mancini not (again) to publicly say Tevez will never play for us again because if he did say that, then it would lead other clubs to think they could get Tevez on the cheap when we want to try and get a good fee for him. Obviously his fee would have dropped following this escapade but I'd say the club will still be looking for £30m plus.
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Re: Tevez

Postby brite blu sky » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:03 pm

exactly, until any legal ramifications have been sorted everyone concerned on both sides will have been told to stay tight lipped. Hence anything read in the press will be more than the usual complete pile of stinking bullshit.

As i say i see that move as shrewd politicking by the club, in effect they have headed the Tevez team off at the pass and flanked them on both sides. Tevez could of course just continue to stubbornly say and do nothing, which if he is the way he seems then is quite probably what the fat fuck will do due to lack of options and too self centered to back down.

Personally i would love that he came out and apologised.. and the club then tell him to fuck off.
That would at least in a moral kind of sense achieve some justice.
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Re: Tevez

Postby bigblue » Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:05 pm

everyone around football is turning on tevez. Juventez is being "warned" to steer clear

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... ng?cc=5901

And, with Juventus believed to be amongst those interested in Tevez, Moggi has advised the club to reconsider any such transfer.

"Buying a dressing room breaker like Carlos Tevez in January would be the biggest disaster ever that could hit Juventus who are in the process of rebuilding," Moggi wrote in his Tuttomercatoweb column.
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Re: Tevez

Postby bluej » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:02 pm

bigblue wrote:everyone around football is turning on tevez. Juventez is being "warned" to steer clear

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... ng?cc=5901

And, with Juventus believed to be amongst those interested in Tevez, Moggi has advised the club to reconsider any such transfer.

"Buying a dressing room breaker like Carlos Tevez in January would be the biggest disaster ever that could hit Juventus who are in the process of rebuilding," Moggi wrote in his Tuttomercatoweb column.


The minute he's available for £20m, Juventus would be there straight away, past discrepancies or not. Someone will come in for him if he's on the cheap which is why we come to the best arrangement for us, regardless of how it impacts on him.
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Re: Tevez

Postby Green & Blue » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:24 pm

bluej wrote:
bigblue wrote:everyone around football is turning on tevez. Juventez is being "warned" to steer clear

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... ng?cc=5901

And, with Juventus believed to be amongst those interested in Tevez, Moggi has advised the club to reconsider any such transfer.

"Buying a dressing room breaker like Carlos Tevez in January would be the biggest disaster ever that could hit Juventus who are in the process of rebuilding," Moggi wrote in his Tuttomercatoweb column.


The minute he's available for £20m, Juventus would be there straight away, past discrepancies or not. Someone will come in for him if he's on the cheap which is why we come to the best arrangement for us, regardless of how it impacts on him.


If he was on the market for that price im sure we would have plenty of suitors willing to take a gamble.Have a feeling italy might be a probable destination for the soft headed one.Inter are struggling for goals this season without Eto'o and just hovering above the relegation zone they might have a rethink come january.
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Re: Tevez

Postby Crossie » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:30 pm

Chelsea I reckon.
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