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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby sheblue » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:22 pm

at this stage no sacking, just sell him in jan and get 15-20m for him and be done with it for once and for all. move on and forget about the little.........
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby Chinners » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:27 pm

sheblue wrote:at this stage no sacking, just sell him in jan and get 15-20m for him and be done with it for once and for all. move on and forget about the little.........


Nah, this is now a point of principal, letting him go on the cheap effectively means Tevez gets what he wants again. I think the the owners bent over backwards to accomodate his wishes in the past now it's hardball time. I hope we sue him tbh
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:33 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:His spin doctor says he's not coming back til next week. You can almost hear their brains ticking over as, imo, Tevez has done this without their consent & they are looking for an angle to bail him out.

I recon they may go for the 'specialist training' angle. He has his favourite geezer over there who can get him fit quicker etc, then they try to dodge the fine by saying it was because of his keeness to play for City that he sought specialist help.

My question is; why, if he's away for a week, is he not committing a breach of contract every day he's not available for training ? Surely it's not one offence, it's a seperate offence every morning ?


Yep, should tell him to be on next plane home. When he doesn't he's ignored another request. Keep demanding he gets a particular flight do by the time he does, he's ignored about 10 requests from his employer.

Surely the PFA would back a 2 week fine for EVERY reasonable request that's refused.
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby Dameerto » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:36 pm

Chinners wrote:
Nah, this is now a point of principal, letting him go on the cheap effectively means Tevez gets what he wants again. I think the the owners bent over backwards to accomodate his wishes in the past now it's hardball time. I hope we sue him tbh



That's what gets me - I read people like Karen Brady saying in her column that we went soft over Tevez but it's just not true, we went for the throat (pun intended) - we had to take the legal route because of it being a multi million pound decision though, and there were just too many loopholes for the little shit to squirm through. I don't think it's over for the Sheikh since it became personal when Tevez basically insulted him (after all the indulgences etc)
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:38 pm

The PR Man must know when he is back to arrange for all the paps to be there when he arrives.
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby Yffi_88 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:44 pm

Dameerto wrote:That's what gets me - I read people like Karen Brady saying in her column that we went soft over Tevez but it's just not true, we went for the throat (pun intended) - we had to take the legal route because of it being a multi million pound decision though, and there were just too many loopholes for the little shit to squirm through. I don't think it's over for the Sheikh since it became personal when Tevez basically insulted him (after all the indulgences etc)


And you don't fuck with people in that position and with that power.
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby zuricity » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:51 pm

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
zuricity wrote:Doug better get to the ground early today for the training session. The press hoards will probably be taking photos of where he should be training today singing "He's not really here"




haha but I think not. Was thinking I might pop down tomorrow for some exercise and see who is about. Maybe Owen working fully and CT if he is around.


So how do we know that your reports are really accurate, if you weren't really (t)here today ?

This is a serious issue Doug and we need an unbiased report on the matter. How are we going to get that if you're not
really here for the training sessions ? :-)

On a serious note, i hope that every instance of missing a training session will be construed as a separate offence and treated accordingly . That should see him getting no money before xmas and thereafter.
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby CTID Hants » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:52 pm

The sheikh doesn't strike me as a man who isn't anything other than laid back but this is going to send him apoplectic.

The fucktard will have read the e-mail as "go to Argentina at your leisure" instead "go to Argentina at your peril"

Sorry boss no speaky the lingo...... as his defense yet again!!!

I am confident that having already taken the piss out of the sheikh already, Mansour will have the very best waiting for the former No32.
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby Mark (Blue Army) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:02 pm

Gordon Taylor "PFA aren't concerned by Tevez missing training, he assures us he has a note from his mum excusing him"
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby crossan » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:15 pm

And to think that at one time the twat was regarded as a City icon now he has been seen for what he is.............a spoilt little kid who no City fan should give time to and the sooner he goes the better.
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:21 pm

Does anybody know what the legal position is on this: if we tell him he is required to return NOW & he refuses to do so, can we treat each refusal/non appearence as a seperate offence thus another charge/fine etc ?
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby shawzy » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:44 pm

Wouldn't surprise me if he comes down with some mystery illness and is unable to fly back for awhile.

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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:35 pm

I've not seen the full interview but even Gordon Taylor has seen his arse about this.
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby steveo_88 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:53 pm

Can we get the Israelis to kidnap Herman and bring him back for trial? They did a pretty good job with Adolf Eichman!
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby Mark (Blue Army) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:58 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:I've not seen the full interview but even Gordon Taylor has seen his arse about this.


Oh, so now he thinks he might of made a mistake in backing Tevez. Good, Tevez shits on any one that helps him and people need to realise that,
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:06 pm

Mark (Blue Army) wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I've not seen the full interview but even Gordon Taylor has seen his arse about this.


Oh, so now he thinks he might of made a mistake in backing Tevez. Good, Tevez shits on any one that helps him and people need to realise that,


Taylor has described it as 'gross misconduct in anybody's book'.
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby Beeks » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:07 pm

I think this soap opera is finally swinging in our favour
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:10 pm

Beeks wrote:I think this soap opera is finally swinging in our favour


Only if we have the balls to do what needs to be done.

If all we do is fine him a bit then transfer him, he has set a precedent for any player to get out of any contract.
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby Florida Blue » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:14 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Beeks wrote:I think this soap opera is finally swinging in our favour


Only if we have the balls to do what needs to be done.

If all we do is fine him a bit then transfer him, he has set a precedent for any player to get out of any contract.


I do not think we need to transfer him since the contract will be voided. I just hope FIFA impose a suspension on top of it for a couple of years.
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Re: Herman Won't Contest

Postby Beeks » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:16 pm

Florida Blue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Beeks wrote:I think this soap opera is finally swinging in our favour


Only if we have the balls to do what needs to be done.

If all we do is fine him a bit then transfer him, he has set a precedent for any player to get out of any contract.


I do not think we need to transfer him since the contract will be voided. I just hope FIFA impose a suspension on top of it for a couple of years.


Plus we sue him for his transfer fee
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