dick dastardley wrote:Anyone else think downing is no where near the class of johnno but crapello keeps playing him!! whats a that about also just read that this phil jones from swamp is being compared to baresi????? fuck me everytime i see the fucker play hes average at best..................
Goaters 103 wrote:Never do the press or Utd's publicity machine, miss an opportunity to get a player totally over-hyped. Jones of course being the new Duncan Edwards, Welbeck - who as someone pointed out on Twitter, runs like Phoebe out of Friends, Cleverley who apparently is an England lynchpin despite barely raising a murmur in 30 odd games for Wigan last year etc etc.
Mind you its always been the case, as I remember Russell Beardsmore being the next great thing in midfield, Darren Ferguson being a player to "build around" etc etc.
As for Downing? He's the most overrated player in the Premier League bar none. One footed, one paced, cant tackle, concedes possession for fun, doesnt score enough goals, weak in the air for his size, and has the stamina of a 18 year old Labrador. Apart from that, I rate him.
Ted Hughes wrote:Goaters 103 wrote:Never do the press or Utd's publicity machine, miss an opportunity to get a player totally over-hyped. Jones of course being the new Duncan Edwards, Welbeck - who as someone pointed out on Twitter, runs like Phoebe out of Friends, Cleverley who apparently is an England lynchpin despite barely raising a murmur in 30 odd games for Wigan last year etc etc.
Mind you its always been the case, as I remember Russell Beardsmore being the next great thing in midfield, Darren Ferguson being a player to "build around" etc etc.
As for Downing? He's the most overrated player in the Premier League bar none. One footed, one paced, cant tackle, concedes possession for fun, doesnt score enough goals, weak in the air for his size, and has the stamina of a 18 year old Labrador. Apart from that, I rate him.
Since the 1-6, there has been a pure propaganda piece on either the front of the 'Sports' section of the MUEN or on the back page every single day. This is not an exaggeration, I'm talking EVERY DAY. Usually accompanied by a picture of red shirted heroes, back slapping each other after yet another fantastic goal. Today's propaganda has Chris Waddle telling us how mind bogglingly fantastic Utd's wide players are & how they provide the best supply line in the business.
Chris Waddle is not a Utd supporter, yet at the time City are playing the best football anyone has seen for years, Waddle (who also works on TV), chooses to help Utd's propaganda machine create a piece about nothing, effectively giving them a free hand job.
This is the same kind of shit trawled out by a wide range of football media & so called experts when Jones, Wellbeck, Cleverley etc are mentioned. Half these people volunteer to help perpetuate the myth of Utd even when they're not fans as such.
We have to play like Barca to get a begrudging compliment from the same ilk.
If Phil Jones is Duncan Edwards, then Duncan Edwards wasn't very good.
Blueonblue wrote:Well as someone else who seen Duncan Edwards play I can say without a doubt that Jones is nowhere near, Edwards was a very promising player who even at the young age he died was a far better player.
Nor is this anything new from the media, I have lost count of the number of "Next" whoever the f*ck the idiot writting the piece can think of, they bum them up for a while untill it becomes blatantly obvious they are average at best and then start all over again with another little ragarse.
Going back to the OP, AJ is so much better than Downing its not funny, I say that because in spite of the many chances Downing has f*cked up he still gets played for England, for me he is like Walcott and Lenon, lots of pace but little end product as he runs into nowhere like a headless chicken.
dick dastardley wrote:Blueonblue wrote:Well as someone else who seen Duncan Edwards play I can say without a doubt that Jones is nowhere near, Edwards was a very promising player who even at the young age he died was a far better player.
Nor is this anything new from the media, I have lost count of the number of "Next" whoever the f*ck the idiot writting the piece can think of, they bum them up for a while untill it becomes blatantly obvious they are average at best and then start all over again with another little ragarse.
Going back to the OP, AJ is so much better than Downing its not funny, I say that because in spite of the many chances Downing has f*cked up he still gets played for England, for me he is like Walcott and Lenon, lots of pace but little end product as he runs into nowhere like a headless chicken.
and what about micah richards exclusion every pundit ive heard is he should be in the team and cementing his place!!!
Goaters 103 wrote:Curry always has a pro-Utd agenda so thats no surprise.
Give it another year or two and the myth will begin about Jones begin another talented "homegrown" Utd youngster, ignoring the actual truth that they paid £16m for him.
dazby wrote:I've only just watched the QPR game and I can see why Micah wasn't picked for England.
carl_feedthegoat wrote:dazby wrote:I've only just watched the QPR game and I can see why Micah wasn't picked for England.
Some of your comments are getting gradually fuckign worse.
You can see why Micah isn't in the England setup because of one fucking match where he played mediocre ?????????...forgetting that he is, on form, the best right back in the premiership YTD !!!!
Clueless.
Slim wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:dazby wrote:I've only just watched the QPR game and I can see why Micah wasn't picked for England.
Some of your comments are getting gradually fuckign worse.
You can see why Micah isn't in the England setup because of one fucking match where he played mediocre ?????????...forgetting that he is, on form, the best right back in the premiership YTD !!!!
Clueless.
Settle down Carl, he writes for a blog about the A-League, obviously knows more than the rest of us.
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Downing does seem to have ability to be non existent if you can get a defender close to him but he does have much better delivery than AJ. I think that most of the chances in the Sweden match were from Downing balls.
As for Jones I doIdo think he is a promising centre half but I am completely baffled as to why he has been given games for England at full back and in midfield. Seems to me in midfield he has a bit of the David White in him. Sees a gap occasionally and runs head down into it. As a midfield destryer he is average and gets himself into bad positions plenty of times.As a creative midfield player he is a joke and looks awful at creating space and angles plus he just hasnt got the touch for that sort of midfield player. As I said as an attacking midfield player he is a bull in a china shop. Useless and yes if he is the new Duncan Edwards then Duncan wasn't that good.Sense will prevail and he will be a good centre back.
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