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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:45 pm

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:Valencia defended like a Sunday pub side and are simply not in City's league going forward.Having said that it will be a very tough game on Monday and a draw would be a good result. If nothing else Chelsea are in confident mood and the manager seems to have got nearer to his best line up with Lampard on the bench.

I agree with you Doug, it's going to be a difficult game and although I'm not a defeatest I'd be happy with a point. Chelsea have started winning games whilst we may go through the CL hangover.

We'll see on Monday how we react mentality.
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby gillie » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:02 pm

I watched the Chelsea v Valencia game and if we have as much posession as Valencia we will win imo plus Valencia were dogshite at the back Chelsea's second goal was comedy gold from the Valencia defender.I think if we play 95% our best we win coz Chelsea are not very good at defending anymore.
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:06 pm

gillie wrote:I watched the Chelsea v Valencia game and if we have as much posession as Valencia we will win imo plus Valencia were dogshite at the back Chelsea's second goal was comedy gold from the Valencia defender.I think if we play 95% our best we win coz Chelsea are not very good at defending anymore.

Very true, but they're getting better without the inclusion of Luis.
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby brite blu sky » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:07 pm

I'm not convinced they have turned the corner. They are still trying to transition to a different style, apparently. The discipline shown against Valencia was for that particular situation . When given the opportunity to agree they had found a pragmatic middle ground Boas rejected it and said they wouldn't continue with that approach. I get the feeling he was serious too and will revert to pushing on with whatever it is he is trying to do there.
It is a shame Luiz is out he really seems to fucl them up without the oppo doing anything.

Cant see the CL exit effecting the players at all.
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby ashton287 » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:09 pm

If they give us 70% possession we will fucking rape them and it will be another one of our title challengers shown up for the shithouses they are.

So let them try the same thing, it won't work. We are so much better than chelsea we might aswell be playing west brom. Drogba isnt half the player he was, torres isn't 1/16 of the player he was, anelka won't play and sturridge while being a decent player needs 20 chances to score 1 and he won't get them. I hope luiz plays as he is a joke and terry will spend the game spinning round in circles looking for aguero, ashley cole has lost his best attribute-his pace, lampard is a threat but is a fat shadow of him former self. Chelsea have so many problems it's hard to list them all and valencia was just papering over the cracks and giving AVB a brief respite. I gaurantee he wishes he was playing anyone but us the game after valencia because we are going to send them crashing back down to earth.

Also comparing him to mourinho is the nastiest thing anyone could do to a new manager in the prem and he will fucking hate the british press for it when he is eventually sacked.
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:30 pm

brite blu sky wrote:I'm not convinced they have turned the corner. They are still trying to transition to a different style, apparently. The discipline shown against Valencia was for that particular situation . When given the opportunity to agree they had found a pragmatic middle ground Boas rejected it and said they wouldn't continue with that approach. I get the feeling he was serious too and will revert to pushing on with whatever it is he is trying to do there.
It is a shame Luiz is out he really seems to fucl them up without the oppo doing anything.

Cant see the CL exit effecting the players at all.

From that I'm trying to work out if you're being over-optimistic or just dismissing Chelsea out of hand? I'm not saying I know better but from what you say AVB is very naive.
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:34 pm

Fesan wrote:Bridge is not a place we've had a hard time as of late, believe we won there last season and the one before. Why are people suddenly fearing the worst now that they are on the down and we are on the up?

We've beaten them when they were 'better' than us and now the tables have turned. I believe we will still get all 3.


We were beaten 2-0 there last season mate in what was one of our most horrible performances of the season.

Having said that I agree that they are still unsettled in regards a gameplan, making them very vulnerable. If they play the high line they've been playing for the most part this season I believe we will skin them alive. It will be interesting to see do they adopt the same counter attacking approach they used against Valencia the other night. Mata worries me, especially if he's allowed roam, makes him very difficult to mark.

I'd be happy with a point, I think.
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby brite blu sky » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:08 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
brite blu sky wrote:I'm not convinced they have turned the corner. They are still trying to transition to a different style, apparently. The discipline shown against Valencia was for that particular situation . When given the opportunity to agree they had found a pragmatic middle ground Boas rejected it and said they wouldn't continue with that approach. I get the feeling he was serious too and will revert to pushing on with whatever it is he is trying to do there.
It is a shame Luiz is out he really seems to fucl them up without the oppo doing anything.

Cant see the CL exit effecting the players at all.

From that I'm trying to work out if you're being over-optimistic or just dismissing Chelsea out of hand? I'm not saying I know better but from what you say AVB is very naive.


Probs just over optimistic. I'm not saying Boas is naive but he said himself they won't continue to play the way they did v Valencia. It maybe he is determined to force them to play a different way - his way, until it clicks. They have had some dismal performances but he hasn't changed his tune, apart from the Valencia game. I don't sense that they have turned the corner and it is going to be a slow process to change Chelsea's mentality and style.

As for City I really don't think going out of the CL will do anything other than fire the team to push on.. if we had been seasoned CL campaigners maybe it would be another story. I see more of the players using it to strengthen their determination to win the prem. Chelsea are a traditional threat and imo City have tended to raise their game against such oppo.

I'm expecting a tough game but unless they get the first goal they will find it tougher i rekon. If Boas sets them up as previous games they could be in some trouble, as many on here are saying.
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:28 pm

Fully expecting 3 points here and they should be comfortable aswell. Chelsea are really terrible this season, against Liverpool they played like a pub side.
They look poor at the back and their best players are aging.
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:47 pm

brite blu sky wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
brite blu sky wrote:I'm not convinced they have turned the corner. They are still trying to transition to a different style, apparently. The discipline shown against Valencia was for that particular situation . When given the opportunity to agree they had found a pragmatic middle ground Boas rejected it and said they wouldn't continue with that approach. I get the feeling he was serious too and will revert to pushing on with whatever it is he is trying to do there.
It is a shame Luiz is out he really seems to fucl them up without the oppo doing anything.

Cant see the CL exit effecting the players at all.

From that I'm trying to work out if you're being over-optimistic or just dismissing Chelsea out of hand? I'm not saying I know better but from what you say AVB is very naive.


Probs just over optimistic. I'm not saying Boas is naive but he said himself they won't continue to play the way they did v Valencia. It maybe he is determined to force them to play a different way - his way, until it clicks. They have had some dismal performances but he hasn't changed his tune, apart from the Valencia game. I don't sense that they have turned the corner and it is going to be a slow process to change Chelsea's mentality and style.

As for City I really don't think going out of the CL will do anything other than fire the team to push on.. if we had been seasoned CL campaigners maybe it would be another story. I see more of the players using it to strengthen their determination to win the prem. Chelsea are a traditional threat and imo City have tended to raise their game against such oppo.

I'm expecting a tough game but unless they get the first goal they will find it tougher i rekon. If Boas sets them up as previous games they could be in some trouble, as many on here are saying.

Decent explanation but do you honestly think that A'SOTS'VB ('SOTS ' - Shitting on the Sidelines) would not play the same way and pick up 3 points? Pesonally, I think that this is exactly how he wants to play, gradually bringing in the players he wants to prove his methods work. From what I've seen, which is quite a lot, he's still been playing the the majority of the Mourinho team in a very Mourinho way in order to get himself a step on the board. However, the older players know that their days are numbered and wouldn't give the same energy that they normally would. AVB has been given licence to make sweeping changes and will do it knowing he has the backing but ensuring they don't fall to far from grace. The team he has at his disposal is awesome btw.

Boas is definately not naive, even though he's young he's like a snake who understands snakes, always looking to get the early strike in if possible. He's now on the front foot and will not want to be going backwards. A win against us will give him that ego boost that he needs, he's probably smiling and dreaming of it as he sleeps.
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby john@staustell » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:13 am

They are a shambles compared to their former selves. And if AVB gets it badly wrong we will piss them 5 or 6 one. If we lose we are still two points clear at least.

Pressure all on Mr no-experience AVB.
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby Original Dub » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:52 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Fully expecting 3 points here and they should be comfortable aswell. Chelsea are really terrible this season, against Liverpool they played like a pub side.
They look poor at the back and their best players are aging.


Let's not get carried away. Very important to stay grounded. Eh.. Its a game of two halves...

Football is a funny old game...

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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby stommy » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:24 am

chelski??? can not wait...
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:12 pm

Just think, a win on Monday will take us past the illustrious 40 points mark. A draw or a loss will still see us looking over our shoulders at the drop!
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby freshie » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:51 pm

Looks like AVB is losing it - first there was his attack on the media, who he claims are victimising him (Ratface in particular) and now he has ordered his players to include him and the rest of the backroom staff in their goal celebrations

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... ation-rule

Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas has ordered his players to include him in their goal celebrations, a club spokesperson has confirmed.

The news is the latest twist regarding the Portuguese, who in midweek launched a scathing attack on the media for a perceived agenda against his team.

Villas-Boas has come under pressure after falling 10 points behind Premier League leaders Manchester City, who they host at Stamford Bridge on Monday.

And now it has been revealed the 34-year-old has told his players they must acknowledge him and his staff when they celebrate.

A Chelsea spokesperson said in The Sun: "The manager has asked the players to look across and recognise him and his staff on the bench after a goal.

"He believes that by celebrating together it shows we are all in it together.

"That's the players, the manager, the subs, the staff, the medical people - everyone working and celebrating together."
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:11 pm

Really worried and nervous about this game; it would be just like Sturridge to turn it on, on the night.

I'd be happy if we kept a clean sheet for once and anything else would be icing on top of the cake.
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:32 pm

This is a game where if we get a goal scoring chance like Silva had against the bindippers then we have to take it.

I see a draw in this game..or a win.
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:43 pm

Of course we can slip up, but realistically if we don't beat Chelsea, we're nowhere near as good as we think we are because we beat a miles better Chelsea team there two seasons ago.
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby bigblue » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:47 pm

freshie wrote:Looks like AVB is losing it - first there was his attack on the media, who he claims are victimising him (Ratface in particular) and now he has ordered his players to include him and the rest of the backroom staff in their goal celebrations

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... ation-rule



If that's true I can see why he may be losing the dressing room. Reeks of arrogance. Plus he celebrates enough by himself whenever Chelsea score
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Re: Chelsea - getting their act together ?

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:01 pm

AVB is a lot smarter than people give him credit for. He's deflecting the focus away from his team.
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