Blue2 wrote:Bluemoon16 wrote:Are the insults directed at me or the writer of the article ??
I did write the name of the writer at the end of the article and even if it was my own opinion, why would some people insult me to that extent. Its just sad to know that some fans cant take critic at all, calling a City supporter a rag.
Lev Bronstein wrote:I've no problem with people asking the question, we don't want complacecy setting in. But as for winning the CL, how many has Wenger won? The only time (so far) that Chelsea have got to a CL final they were managed by Avram Grant!
Tell you what, let's go for a manager with a proven track record in the CL - step forward Sir Alex Ferguson.
Or wean Guadiola from Barca, or bring Bob Paisley or Brian Clough back to life!
Thought not.
I can't think of anyone better at the moment.
Bluemoon16 wrote:Blue2 wrote:Bluemoon16 wrote:Are the insults directed at me or the writer of the article ??
I think they were directed at you mate, but only becuase you made your post look like it was your opinion.I did write the name of the writer at the end of the article and even if it was my own opinion, why would some people insult me to that extent. Its just sad to know that some fans cant take critic at all, calling a City supporter a rag.
Bluemoon16 wrote:I’ve said it before, and I will say it again: Roberto Mancini is not the right man to guide Manchester City to major football honors. I will go further by stating that while the Italian coach is still at Eastlands, the Citizens will not win the English Premier League or the European Champions League.
My opinion is based on several factors, some of which were quite evident again at Chelsea on Monday when City lost for the first time in the domestic league this season.
My first argument is about the way Mancini has been building his team. With virtually unlimited funds, he has loaded his squad with too many world-class forwards and not enough top defenders. City have now gone eight Premier League matches without a clean sheet, and that is one of the reasons why they will not win the title.
Against Chelsea, the 47-year-old - a forward himself during his distinguished playing career – had the likes of Samir Nasri, Edin Dzeko and Adam Johnson as replacement attacking options. He had to bring on Kolo Toure, primarily a central defender, as cover after left-back Gael Clichy was sent off.
Mancini often struggles to make the right substitutions. When City went down to 10 men at Stamford Bridge, he took off the only players who could lead a counter attack – Sergio Aguero and David Silva – and replaced them with a defender (Toure) and a defensive midfielder (Nigel de Jong).
He basically any conceded hopes of winning the game with15 minutes left, with the score level at 1-1, and decided to eliminate any chance his team had of scoring a quick breakaway goal. Someone like Nasri or Johnson could have provided a spark against a tired Chelsea defense on a heavy and soggy pitch. Furthermore, one of those flair players would surely have been able to earn a few free-kicks in City’s attacking third and take the pressure off their defense for a few minutes.
In terms of man management, I believe Mancini has actually improved after clashing with several players such as Emmanuel Adebayor and Craig Bellamy in his first season at the club, but he has still made a mess of the whole Carlos Tevez saga. First, he accused the player of not wanting to come on as a substitute in the Champions League game against Bayern Munich, then it transpired the Argentina forward actually did not want to warm up again and never refused to enter the game.
Whichever way you look at it, Tevez was wrong, but this issue could have been resolved internally. By claiming, in a TV interview, that Tevez would never play for the club again, Mancini not only alienated a top player but also someone who has big influence in the dressing room. In my opinion, he lost more than he gained in that episode.
My final argument is simple: Mancini should have been able to guide City into the knockout stages of the Champions League. The players are good enough for that. Many of them would even be good enough to win the competition, if, like I mentioned before, there were a few more quality defenders around. They had some very tough opponents in their group, no doubt about it, but City should have been able to avoid defeat in Munich and in Naples. That’s what top teams with top managers are able to do at the highest level.
Don’t get me wrong - Manchester City are still good enough to challenge for the title, but they will come up short. Players win games, teams win championships, and in my view this team with this manager will never be good enough to lift the Premier League trophy.
By Pedro Pinto
http://worldsport.blogs.cnn.com/tag/cnn-world-sport-anchor/
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carl_feedthegoat wrote:Lev Bronstein wrote:I've no problem with people asking the question, we don't want complacecy setting in. But as for winning the CL, how many has Wenger won? The only time (so far) that Chelsea have got to a CL final they were managed by Avram Grant!
Tell you what, let's go for a manager with a proven track record in the CL - step forward Sir Alex Ferguson.
Or wean Guadiola from Barca, or bring Bob Paisley or Brian Clough back to life!
Thought not.
I can't think of anyone better at the moment.
Wenger has got pass the quarterfinals....Mancini has never got pass them (I think)... that's the difference.
Like I said I want Mancini to stay on for the foreseeable but I also want him to learn from his mistakes.
dazlebluefrog wrote:i'll put my hands up and say i was wrong about bob ,when he came we had "easy "games comin up, even hughes would of been able to win ,last year he brought us our 1st trophy (major)since 76 i was pleased for him and us
this year he's brought us to a new level never have i seem so many goals from a city team (i pinch myself just to make sure we're not end of april !! )
All that matters this season for me is 1st PLACE IN LEAGUE,ok the league cup is good ,fa cup as well , even europa cup but bobby surely has only 1 trophy he'd love more than any other, i now have every belief he can and will deliver
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