Kompany's 'Ban'

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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby CityGer » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:55 am

Cheers lads.

I agree that Foy is the only real hope we have.

He didn't elaborate but Doug said yesterday that he had heard that Foy was ready to admit that he made an error. Perhaps he, and Bobby going by his interview last night, know something we don't.....we live in hope.
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby CTID Hants » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:52 pm

Mase wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
CityGer wrote:
CityGer wrote:When is the appeal hearing going to be held?


Anyone??


Appeal formally lodged today and decision by tomorrow PM I would expect, with Wednesdays game in mind. These things are usually finalised within 24 hrs now - see Barton and Milijas of recent vintage. Unless Foy goes to bat for us and offers that he made a mistake, that red card wont be overturned.


If Foy admits he made a mistake then he'll personally be punished by the FA. The ban will stand because of this.


Well that is just ludicrous, being punished for admitting a mistake??????
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:21 pm

King Kev wrote:I'm concerned about the psychological effect any ban could have on Vinnie.

If he thinks he will get a ban for making that sort of challenge in the future it's bound to detract from his game.


Probably not a bad thing, as he WILL get a ban for doing it in the future. Ferguson is training his pets right now.
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby Mark (Blue Army) » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:39 pm

From the OS

City have today lodged an appeal with the Football Association relating to the red card issued to Vincent Kompany during Sunday's FA Cup tie with Manchester United at the Etihad Stadium.


The FA have confirmed that a hearing will be held ahead of Wednesday evening’s Carling Cup semi-final first leg tie at home to Liverpool.
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby Original Dub » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:42 pm

Mark (Blue Army) wrote:From the OS

City have today lodged an appeal with the Football Association relating to the red card issued to Vincent Kompany during Sunday's FA Cup tie with Manchester United at the Etihad Stadium.


The FA have confirmed that a hearing will be held ahead of Wednesday evening’s Carling Cup semi-final first leg tie at home to Liverpool.


Cheers Mark.

"Ahead of" the semi? Fucking now is ahead of the semi, as is tomorrow. A bit more clarification would have been nice. We'll probably get the "no" about an hour before kick off against the dippers.
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby sheblue » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:45 pm

suppose they will make a decision tomorrow.
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby Original Dub » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:47 pm

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/09/sport/football/football-manchester-rooney-kompany/index.html?hpt=ieu_c2

That fucking fat baldy cunt Rooney is at it again... insisting it was a red.
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby PeterParker » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:53 pm

Original Dub wrote:http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/09/sport/football/football-manchester-rooney-kompany/index.html?hpt=ieu_c2

That fucking fat baldy cunt Rooney is at it again... insisting it was a red.


What do you expect from a retard? He also said he didn't touched the montenegro player when he got the red card.
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby gillie » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:54 pm

Original Dub wrote:http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/09/sport/football/football-manchester-rooney-kompany/index.html?hpt=ieu_c2

That fucking fat baldy cunt Rooney is at it again... insisting it was a red.

You know i dont have hatred for anyone or anything but i'm coming very close to hating FUCKIN BALD BASTARD ROONEY.
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby TomS » Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:00 pm

City have appealed against the red card and a hearing will take place the day before Wednesday's game with Liverpool.

A three-man Football Association commission will decide if Foy made an "obvious error" in dismissing the Belgian.


This one is from the bbc article "Bobby: Rooney sent Vine off". So the hearind is tomorrow?!
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby BmoreBlue » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:24 pm

we'll know the result at 6pm tomorrow.
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby MR IMAINEROAD » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:12 pm

King Kev wrote:I'm concerned about the psychological effect any ban could have on Vinnie.

If he thinks he will get a ban for making that sort of challenge in the future it's bound to detract from his game.


Seriously guys I think this is bigger than us. If a tackle is made in good faith without malice and the ball is touched first then I cannot understand the logic of a red card. A free kick is fair enough but in this risk free, health and safety, pc nanny state we live in surely a tiny bit of common sense would not go amiss.
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby gillie » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:27 pm

Are any of the bookies running odds on Vinny's chances of a successful appeal coz them guys know the score.
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby Bluez » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:44 pm

I must admit I think Mancini has ruined any chance we might of had of a successful appeal. If he had said " at that kind of speed it's no wonder Foy got it wrong" we might have had a chance. By saying Rooney decided the card, if the appeal is upheld it makes Foy look like he was influenced by a player and the FA will never let that happen even if it's true
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:45 pm

MR IMAINEROAD wrote:
King Kev wrote:I'm concerned about the psychological effect any ban could have on Vinnie.

If he thinks he will get a ban for making that sort of challenge in the future it's bound to detract from his game.


Seriously guys I think this is bigger than us. If a tackle is made in good faith without malice and the ball is touched first then I cannot understand the logic of a red card. A free kick is fair enough but in this risk free, health and safety, pc nanny state we live in surely a tiny bit of common sense would not go amiss.


dead right. It's not necessarily about getting the ball though. You could dive in from several feet away, with two straight legs, studs up and get the ball. You'd probably cripple the person on the other side of it, but you'd get the ball. Kompany's tackle wasn't that, though. One leg went in front of the ball to block it. The other one has to follow, but again, it wasn't straight, or next to the tackling leg, it came through behind Nani. It didn't scissor Nani either.

The rules state careless is a yellow and excessive force is a red. It certainly wasn't excessive force and it didn't even look careless - he knew exactly what he was doing.

No matter how many times I watch it, I think he's made a great tackle. Regardless of the ban or who he plays for, if that sort of tackle is to be outlawed, then I'm not sure what's left. To keep it City, to avoid any bias, de jong's tackle against Ben Arfa was much, much worse. I thought it was unlucky, in the way he caught Ben Arfa, but there was only one of those tackles you could want to be outlawed, if either
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby gillie » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:53 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
MR IMAINEROAD wrote:
King Kev wrote:I'm concerned about the psychological effect any ban could have on Vinnie.

If he thinks he will get a ban for making that sort of challenge in the future it's bound to detract from his game.


Seriously guys I think this is bigger than us. If a tackle is made in good faith without malice and the ball is touched first then I cannot understand the logic of a red card. A free kick is fair enough but in this risk free, health and safety, pc nanny state we live in surely a tiny bit of common sense would not go amiss.


dead right. It's not necessarily about getting the ball though. You could dive in from several feet away, with two straight legs, studs up and get the ball. You'd probably cripple the person on the other side of it, but you'd get the ball. Kompany's tackle wasn't that, though. One leg went in front of the ball to block it. The other one has to follow, but again, it wasn't straight, or next to the tackling leg, it came through behind Nani. It didn't scissor Nani either.

The rules state careless is a yellow and excessive force is a red. It certainly wasn't excessive force and it didn't even look careless - he knew exactly what he was doing.

No matter how many times I watch it, I think he's made a great tackle. Regardless of the ban or who he plays for, if that sort of tackle is to be outlawed, then I'm not sure what's left. To keep it City, to avoid any bias, de jong's tackle against Ben Arfa was much, much worse. I thought it was unlucky, in the way he caught Ben Arfa, but there was only one of those tackles you could want to be outlawed, if either

If Vinny's perfect tackle is deemed foul play then the game is dead for me.What are defenders supposed to do Tackle yes they are but if they do and make a perfect tackle but see a red card then the defender becomes redundant and no longer of use to his team.So in reallity the game becomes non-contact so all teams go out with 10 attackers and a goalie.God help us think i will start knitting.
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:57 pm

gillie wrote:
Blue Since 76 wrote:
MR IMAINEROAD wrote:
King Kev wrote:I'm concerned about the psychological effect any ban could have on Vinnie.

If he thinks he will get a ban for making that sort of challenge in the future it's bound to detract from his game.


Seriously guys I think this is bigger than us. If a tackle is made in good faith without malice and the ball is touched first then I cannot understand the logic of a red card. A free kick is fair enough but in this risk free, health and safety, pc nanny state we live in surely a tiny bit of common sense would not go amiss.


dead right. It's not necessarily about getting the ball though. You could dive in from several feet away, with two straight legs, studs up and get the ball. You'd probably cripple the person on the other side of it, but you'd get the ball. Kompany's tackle wasn't that, though. One leg went in front of the ball to block it. The other one has to follow, but again, it wasn't straight, or next to the tackling leg, it came through behind Nani. It didn't scissor Nani either.

The rules state careless is a yellow and excessive force is a red. It certainly wasn't excessive force and it didn't even look careless - he knew exactly what he was doing.

No matter how many times I watch it, I think he's made a great tackle. Regardless of the ban or who he plays for, if that sort of tackle is to be outlawed, then I'm not sure what's left. To keep it City, to avoid any bias, de jong's tackle against Ben Arfa was much, much worse. I thought it was unlucky, in the way he caught Ben Arfa, but there was only one of those tackles you could want to be outlawed, if either

If Vinny's perfect tackle is deemed foul play then the game is dead for me.What are defenders supposed to do Tackle yes they are but if they do and make a perfect tackle but see a red card then the defender becomes redundant and no longer of use to his team.So in reallity the game becomes non-contact so all teams go out with 10 attackers and a goalie.God help us think i will start knitting.


The good news is, if you ban defending, we'll win it at a canter - just looks at our goals for column. Maybe this is Bernstein's master plan!
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby Lees Alter Ego » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:46 pm

If he isnt successful in his appeal will he get an additional game ban?
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby Dendza » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:28 am

kompany CAN get a red card ;)
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Re: Kompany's 'Ban'

Postby Dameerto » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:05 am

Lees Alter Ego wrote:If he isnt successful in his appeal will he get an additional game ban?


They can impose an extra game on the ban if the challenge to the decision is deemed frivolous - it's not widely thought that will apply in this case even if he loses.
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