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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:11 pm

The FA will not be taking any action against Glen Johnson for his challenge on Joleon Lescott in the first leg of Wednesday night’s League Cup semi-final.
After all the controversy that surrounded Vincent Kompany’s red card against Manchester United for a two-footed tackle on Nani in the FA Cup third round last weekend, there have been calls for Johnson to face retrospespective punishment.
But talkSPORT has been told there will be no follow-up disciplinary action.
A spokesman confirmed that referee Lee Mason saw the incident at the Etihad Stadium and decided not to book or send off Johnson.
That means the FA cannot get involved as they can only deal with 'off the ball incidents' that may have been missed by the officials.
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:14 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:The FA will not be taking any action against Glen Johnson for his challenge on Joleon Lescott in the first leg of Wednesday night’s League Cup semi-final.
After all the controversy that surrounded Vincent Kompany’s red card against Manchester United for a two-footed tackle on Nani in the FA Cup third round last weekend, there have been calls for Johnson to face retrospespective punishment.
But talkSPORT has been told there will be no follow-up disciplinary action.
A spokesman confirmed that referee Lee Mason saw the incident at the Etihad Stadium and decided not to book or send off Johnson.
That means the FA cannot get involved as they can only deal with 'off the ball incidents' that may have been missed by the officials.


Hands up everyone who is surprised about this ?

The twat saw it but let it go.
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby Mase » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:15 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:The FA will not be taking any action against Glen Johnson for his challenge on Joleon Lescott in the first leg of Wednesday night’s League Cup semi-final.
After all the controversy that surrounded Vincent Kompany’s red card against Manchester United for a two-footed tackle on Nani in the FA Cup third round last weekend, there have been calls for Johnson to face retrospespective punishment.
But talkSPORT has been told there will be no follow-up disciplinary action.
A spokesman confirmed that referee Lee Mason saw the incident at the Etihad Stadium and decided not to book or send off Johnson.
That means the FA cannot get involved as they can only deal with 'off the ball incidents' that may have been missed by the officials.


In that case Mason has admitted to 'seeing' the incident and not acting according to FA rules if they want to go off the decision they've made from the weekend. Will Mason be demoted now??
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby lets all have a disco » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:17 pm

The whole FA is rotten to the core and yes that includes you Bernstein sort your fucking ship out.

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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby dick dastardley » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:50 pm

bigblue wrote:Mr gerrard acting a cunt towards Mancini:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16512668.stm


ive come to the conclusion scouse fans and players are scumbags if gerrard saw that tackle again he'd keep his shite hole gob shut. fuck me thats annoyed me even more than before........ klanfield never at fault for fuckin anything EVER FACT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:53 pm

lets all have a disco wrote:The whole FA is rotten to the core and yes that includes you Bernstein sort your fucking ship out.

PRICK.



Concerted pressure should be put on the FA to do something here a la Thatcher.They can do it even if they say they can't

Not that the incident itself was that bad, but for football bearing in mind the great confusion that exists at the moment.We would all love to know what brought Mason to the conclusion that it wasnt worth a red card ( never mind a foul or yellow) especially after all the noise in the press about Vinnie's.
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby Florida Blue » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:58 pm

I am surprised about the lack of comment on Carroll's two-footed flailing (I guess that is what you call it when a striker attempts to do something he cannot). Clichy's turn prevented a disaster IMO. While I do not think it is something that would have been an issue in the past, in light of the VK situation this is something that should have been addressed as well.
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:59 pm

Florida Blue wrote:I am surprised about the lack of comment on Carroll's two-footed flailing (I guess that is what you call it when a striker attempts to do something he cannot). Clichy's turn prevented a disaster IMO. While I do not think it is something that would have been an issue in the past, in light of the VK situation this is something that should have been addressed as well.


Mentioned it earlier. Not seen the tv version but from my position in the ground it looked fairly horrific.
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby lets all have a disco » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:59 pm

The FA have opened a can of worms with all this bollocks this season they are acting like they are running a corner shop.
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby Original Dub » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:02 pm

bigblue wrote:Mr gerrard acting a cunt towards Mancini:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16512668.stm


The fucking ignorant scouse scumbag. Get some fucking manners. The cunt thinks he's God.

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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby john68 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:23 pm

As much as we vent our spleens on here and no matter how much we bang shout and stamp our feet, The FA will not act.

They consider the integrity of the refereeing decision to be paramount....end of.
Should they do any different, they will consider they are undermining his position and sole, free and fair arbiter. To admit anything else is never going to happen.
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby Beefymcfc » Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:17 pm

Well, quite simply, the FA obviously would like to see Liverpool winning whereas they don't mind seeing City losing.

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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby paulmclaren » Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:13 pm

All this arguing over tackling ffs.
Sick n tired of hearing about it, sooner or later football with be like basketball, no contact sport.
Then no fucker will be remotely assed to go n watch the games.
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby IanWright » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:28 pm

Steven Gerrard's a right twat.

Defending Wayne Rooney. What the f***?! These Scousers are as thick as thieves (never has a saying been more apt)
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:45 pm

I've no read this thread but Johnson's tackle did not warrant a red. But Kompany's didn't aswell. The issue here isn't that Johnson wasn't sent off, it's that Kompany was. Football is fast becoming a non contact game.
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby feedthegreek » Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:18 pm

according to the fa it will go down as referees interpretation so they can more or less do what they want and they do. either a law is a law or it doesnt exist, same as last man, or is it goalscoring oppurtunity, or his he intefering with play when offside or is it 1st phase or 2nd phase, is it a minimum of 5 minutes added you blow up or can it be 8,if its eight the board should say minimum of 8 ,its never maximum of. is that worth a yellow or not, was that a red or a yellow. sorry for being a boring get but thats why there will never be any
video technology brought in. because every decision would be analysed and players would be claimimg for every single thing. i heard one caller on a phone in say they should have a ref in each half ffs, foy in one and mason in the other can you imagine that be like ww3.
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby Bluez » Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:23 pm

Vinnies was not a red as it was a one footed tackle where he slid in slowly and was in complete control. If he had hit Nani, nani would have fell over, He not only got the ball but he also had the ball under control, got up and ran off with it.

Glen Johnson flew through the air studs up, feet together and knocked the ball flying. If he had hit lescott he would have broke his leg.

Vinnies was a great tackle, Johson was a reckless, dangerous tackle which is definite straight red.
Even if there is disagreement with my explaination, if Vinnies is a red, Johson was definitely a red.
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby Bianchi on Ice » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:33 pm

feedthegreek wrote:according to the fa it will go down as referees interpretation so they can more or less do what they want and they do. either a law is a law or it doesnt exist, same as last man, or is it goalscoring oppurtunity, or his he intefering with play when offside or is it 1st phase or 2nd phase, is it a minimum of 5 minutes added you blow up or can it be 8,if its eight the board should say minimum of 8 ,its never maximum of. is that worth a yellow or not, was that a red or a yellow. sorry for being a boring get but thats why there will never be any
video technology brought in. because every decision would be analysed and players would be claimimg for every single thing. i heard one caller on a phone in say they should have a ref in each half ffs, foy in one and mason in the other can you imagine that be like ww3.


Good post...highlights the knots the game has tied itself into. The players are cuter (not in a sexual sense), the game is faster, technique is, andy carroll being the exception, improved, in the main..and in the main flair players are more protected from brazen thuggery...injuries are more prevalent, or maybe, footballers are just rather delicate. Tactics have been refined to a point where the opposition cannot be allowed to have the ball (think about it, and watch a game from the late eighties...acres of space on the pitch...even at international level the "pressing" championed by coaches has left referees with a problem they never used to have, ie split decision making, sometimes two or three key decisions within a minute or two... either way, something needs to be done to move with the way the game has evolved over the last twenty years. I advocate video evidence but I take your point about players using this to their advantage, and would suggest a limit to two appeals per team per match. If Lee Mason wants to take us back to the seventies go ahead, but in the context of foy's folly it shows up the frustrations of fan, manager, and, I would think, player, all too well.
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby gillie » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:43 pm

Bianchi on Ice wrote:
feedthegreek wrote:according to the fa it will go down as referees interpretation so they can more or less do what they want and they do. either a law is a law or it doesnt exist, same as last man, or is it goalscoring oppurtunity, or his he intefering with play when offside or is it 1st phase or 2nd phase, is it a minimum of 5 minutes added you blow up or can it be 8,if its eight the board should say minimum of 8 ,its never maximum of. is that worth a yellow or not, was that a red or a yellow. sorry for being a boring get but thats why there will never be any
video technology brought in. because every decision would be analysed and players would be claimimg for every single thing. i heard one caller on a phone in say they should have a ref in each half ffs, foy in one and mason in the other can you imagine that be like ww3.


Good post...highlights the knots the game has tied itself into. The players are cuter (not in a sexual sense), the game is faster, technique is, andy carroll being the exception, improved, in the main..and in the main flair players are more protected from brazen thuggery...injuries are more prevalent, or maybe, footballers are just rather delicate. Tactics have been refined to a point where the opposition cannot be allowed to have the ball (think about it, and watch a game from the late eighties...acres of space on the pitch...even at international level the "pressing" championed by coaches has left referees with a problem they never used to have, ie split decision making, sometimes two or three key decisions within a minute or two... either way, something needs to be done to move with the way the game has evolved over the last twenty years. I advocate video evidence but I take your point about players using this to their advantage, and would suggest a limit to two appeals per team per match. If Lee Mason wants to take us back to the seventies go ahead, but in the context of foy's folly it shows up the frustrations of fan, manager, and, I would think, player, all too well.

Great post BoI.And our Captain must have been gutted to see Johnson stay on the pitch but also no yellow or free kick given.
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Re: The Glen Johnson 'Tackle'

Postby JoeHartTheIronCurtain » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:48 pm

If only Glen Johnson didn't get away with this tackle before we had appealed, id say Kompany would have been allowed play, nothing seems to be going right at the moment, hope the bad luck brushes off for the PL though, thats where it matters.
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