Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

[Original Dub]

The commentating on the game was some of the worst I've ever heard. Playing as frustratingly as we are lately, along with the absolutely ridiculous refereeing decisions (EVERY SINGLE GAME!!) is bad enough, but with that commentating... I actually felt like turning it off.

When the ball hit Neville's arm en route to Dzeko standing in front of goal, the commentators explained that it wasn't a penalty because he "tried to get his arm out of the way".

So all you have to do is TRY gentlemen. TRY not to be offside and you're sure to be through on goal. TRY not to foul and the whistle won't go. TRY not to lose and you're guaranteed at least a point.

This isn't exclusive - its not either the ref's fault OR the team's fault. It can be both. And last night it was a shocking performance from both the team and the ref.

Sure, we played pedestrian like and only looked like scoring once from open play... but these are games when maybe two penalties win you the game. Ask the rags, the ref spotted those two.

Oh, and definite red card for tackle on Richards. Exactly like the Scholes sending off in the derby last season.

A shite performance from City. Definitely. Two penalties and a sending off for Everton? Definitely.

Conspiracy? Maybe. Paranoia? Definitely not.

Don't let all those facts get in the way of certain City fans claiming it's 'just a coincidence' though Dub.

I'm not arsed with the muppets who still can't see any bias Mase. I don't even bother arguing with those morons anymore.

As for the "roll your sleeves up and show we can win with the refs against us". I'm not even sure how that works, what with the refs running the whole thing.

[Hazy2]

We need to wise up Micah, like Barry last week to nice gets nailed Knee high and gets up sorry, I hate it but no prizes for being fair, name a team that would have not had Derenthe in serious trouble. To nice to often.Wise the fuck up fast and play to the same rules as the rest.

[Original Dub]

We need to wise up Micah, like Barry last week to nice gets nailed Knee high and gets up sorry, I hate it but no prizes for being fair, name a team that would have not had Derenthe in serious trouble. To nice to often.Wise the fuck up fast and play to the same rules as the rest.

Exactly. A level playing field is all I want.

[Hazy2]

We need to wise up Micah, like Barry last week to nice gets nailed Knee high and gets up sorry, I hate it but no prizes for being fair, name a team that would have not had Derenthe in serious trouble. To nice to often.Wise the fuck up fast and play to the same rules as the rest.

Exactly. A level playing field is all I want.

Rags would have played the ball out we played on "Muppets" pressue is a two way street an we do not manage the game and flash points, By managing I mean ref the game if possible, Pro's are trained to do this. Giggs and Rooney along with every outfield player would have told the ref his decision, over to him. Gerrard does it and almost Every England player will march up to a ref and ask WTF ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THAT ? seek and gain an advatage.

[Blue2]

What a surprise


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... lenge.html

Assou - Ekotto will not be charged.

How come refs see things like this and take no action, but when its a City player he doesn't see it and the FA pile in?

The evidence is growing.

[Original Dub]

We need to wise up Micah, like Barry last week to nice gets nailed Knee high and gets up sorry, I hate it but no prizes for being fair, name a team that would have not had Derenthe in serious trouble. To nice to often.Wise the fuck up fast and play to the same rules as the rest.

Exactly. A level playing field is all I want.

Rags would have played the ball out we played on "Muppets" pressue is a two way street an we do not manage the game and flash points, By managing I mean ref the game if possible, Pro's are trained to do this. Giggs and Rooney along with every outfield player would have told the ref his decision, over to him. Gerrard does it and almost Every England player will march up to a ref and ask WTF ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THAT ? seek and gain an advatage.

Exactly. It has to start next game and from there on in. Sure, it is seen as influencing the ref, but it can also be interpreted as "heat of the moment"... AKA passion. If our players are being told not to express themselves to the referee in the interest of "fair play" then it needs to stop now, because not only does it allow the ref to perhaps think an incident wasn't as bad, but it allows us to think our players don't give a shit.

That aside, can anyone say that neutral fans/media etc. think City are fantastic because of our impeccable behaviour towards refs? They think we are spoilt, paranoid and deserve everything that's coming to us.

So fuck them all and lets start demanding we get our slice of the cake.

[zuricity]

The thing is, the next five games leading to the crunch game against Chelsea at home are against teams that are not perceived as trouble teams for us. We know Everton just play to kick us off the park, that's what Moyes does. Ok they got dead lucky with their goal, speculative to say the least.

The next five , Fulham, Villa, Blackburn , Bolton and Swansea are not the kind of teams to want to 'do one' on City.

So it is highly likely that we we see all five teams actually trying to play football. I simply can't see any of these teams wanting to clog us off the park the way United, Arsenal, Liverpool , Everton do or want to. This in turn makes it easier for the referees. sure, there will be fouls and mistakes made by both teams, but I just don't see this lot as a bad group of teams. Also, they have their needs, blackburn must try and win , so too Bolton. However, coming to fortress Etihad, they might choose to look elsewhere for their victories and accept anything that gets offered to them at our place.

Essentially i expect City to consolidate at the Top, not being too risky but getting the points . I simply can't see united getting maximum points in February. Starting this Sunday, it is imperative that Chelsea get three points from this game, the other teams are playing catch up on them.

[ross.mcfc]

The thing is, the next five games leading to the crunch game against Chelsea at home are against teams that are not perceived as trouble teams for us. We know Everton just play to kick us off the park, that's what Moyes does. Ok they got dead lucky with their goal, speculative to say the least.

The next five , Fulham, Villa, Blackburn , Bolton and Swansea are not the kind of teams to want to 'do one' on City.

So it is highly likely that we we see all five teams actually trying to play football. I simply can't see any of these teams wanting to clog us off the park the way United, Arsenal, Liverpool , Everton do or want to. This in turn makes it easier for the referees. sure, there will be fouls and mistakes made by both teams, but I just don't see this lot as a bad group of teams. Also, they have their needs, blackburn must try and win , so too Bolton. However, coming to fortress Etihad, they might choose to look elsewhere for their victories and accept anything that gets offered to them at our place.

Essentially i expect City to consolidate at the Top, not being too risky but getting the points . I simply can't see united getting maximum points in February. Starting this Sunday, it is imperative that Chelsea get three points from this game, the other teams are playing catch up on them.

Bang on. Apart from the bit about Villa playing football though. Most negative team in the league.

If we dont come out with 13/15 points from those five games we have no one to blame but ourselves.

[zuricity]

Everton match second half 61.24 mins into the game. Linesman casually lifts his flag for offside against Edin. Walton blows for offside, all the city attackers are amazed. How on earth did they get Edin offside ?

[Nigels Tackle]

Everton match second half 61.24 mins into the game. Linesman casually lifts his flag for offside against Edin. Walton blows for offside, all the city attackers are amazed. How on earth did they get Edin offside ?

i have it gone authority that members of the illuminati have been attending our recent matches...

[mcfc1632]

Everton match second half 61.24 mins into the game. Linesman casually lifts his flag for offside against Edin. Walton blows for offside, all the city attackers are amazed. How on earth did they get Edin offside ?

i have it gone authority that members of the illuminati have been attending our recent matches...

What do you mean by that? - sorry it is probably obvious to others - just not to me

[Dronny]

The [strike]world[/strike], sorry our board seems to have been taken over by someone or thing from Planet Bonney, they're everywhere........HELP

[Beefymcfc]

Bang on. Apart from the bit about Villa playing football though. Most negative team in the league.

If we dont come out with 13/15 points from those five games we have no one to blame but ourselves.

It's funny how you say that when there have been many occassions already that have shown it's not always us to blame. Do you think that these decisions will stop, similar to the one under this post? Yes, with the team we have then we should definately be looking at near maximum points, but that isn't the issue it, it's the point that many things haven't gone our way.

After now seeing the game, and impassionately, I couldn't understand why Edin didn't get a foul called agains him just prior to the goal. Edin got the ball and Fellaini's challenge prevented him from chasing the ball up. We've seen numerous decisions given over the course of the season and that sort of challenge is given more than not.

Everton match second half 61.24 mins into the game. Linesman casually lifts his flag for offside against Edin. Walton blows for offside, all the city attackers are amazed. How on earth did they get Edin offside ?

Now take this scenario where Edin is clearly offside but is in no way involved in play. Sergio, clearly onside brings down the ball and passes it off to Silva who is now looking to start the attack yet the flag goes up for the original Dzeko offside. Why, why would the linesman raise his flag for someone clearly no involved in play, considering that linesmen now even allow players to chase the ball down prior to flagging?

It's not just the big decisions that decide games, sometimes it's the little ones, ones that may not look of consequence but do have a change in the flow of our play. The Kolarov yellow is still probably the worst case I've seen where Dowd allowed the play to continue because the Dippers had the ball and were attacking, knowing one of defensive minded players was out of the equation, and if anybody feels the need to explain why he then came back to give a card, apart from trying to prove he was right to let Liverpool continue unimpeded, then I'm all ear's?

Edit: I've just seen the Drenthe tackle on Micah and how Walton didn't see that as a red card offense I don't know. Micah got up yes, but the manner of the challenge was surely a red. Moyes knew it also and that's why he was subbed immediately. What soemtimes gets me is the way Sky show these things. Kompany's red was shown immediately, over and over again, so was Mario's, yet even though there was a lull in play with the freekick on AJ they never showed the incident until 2 minutes later.

[Longball]

the original first thread - yes yr right mate= fuckin mad the paranoia goin on

[zuricity]

but ! Edin was not offside when the header was made. aguero played the ball backwards!

[guv111]

Here's one. I've been away for about two hours and hardly anyone has posted after we've won 3-0. After the Everton match it was frantic. Therefore MCF is actually a front for United fans.

[Beefymcfc]

Here's one. I've been away for about two hours and hardly anyone has posted after we've won 3-0. After the Everton match it was frantic. Therefore MCF is actually a front for United fans.

Read my last on the match thread ;-)

[guv111]

Here's one. I've been away for about two hours and hardly anyone has posted after we've won 3-0. After the Everton match it was frantic. Therefore MCF is actually a front for United fans.

Read my last on the match thread ;-)

Ah yes Beefy. 'It's oh so quiet, oh so still.....'

It still is! Maybe everyone is celebrating, or lying dying in the snow :)

[Rag_hater]

I was hoping that one of you streetwise,savvy,sagacious people would be able to explain to me how the ref giving us a penalty early enough in the game for it to have a direct effect on the rest of the match is anything but the exact opposite of the actions of somebody who was out to fuck us up.Could somebody explain to me what I am missing how giving us the pen that should not have been fucked us up.

[ashton287]

Yeah a mistake by a ref who more than made up for it by ignoring the foul on silva which was a card aswell as a pen and ignoring a handball by them along with ignoring the "straight red" 2 footed lunge definitely makes up for the 2 points taken at fulham away, 3 points at Chelsea away, 3 points at west brom away, 1 point at Sunderland and 1 point at everton and getting us knocked out of our cup and then giving Liverpool a trip to wembley. Notice that the points have all been robbed AWAY from home.

Yeahhhh he made every one of us look like idiots by fucking up and then refusing to make anymore decisions.

Or maybe he just showed why he shouldn't be allowed to ref a football game yet he will be allowed. Along with the rest of the inept/bent cunts on the roster.