Dzeko

[Nick]

Tonight was typical of a gash performance by dzeko. Normally this happens then he pops with a goal just as every man and his dog is slagging him off - so we then forget. I even said to my mate dzeko is playing shite until he proves us wrong. Sadly he didnt.. Although to be fair aguero had a shit game too. I just had changing winning sides, especially shape wise aswell as personnel!

[Ted Hughes]

He wasn’t alone in being shite tonight but it happens all to often IMO with him. If we want to succeed at a higher level than he either steps his game up 100% or we replace. For instance Silva was poor today but nine times out of ten he delivers. Dzeko at times doesn’t seem interested or acts like a complete soft arse, I just can’t work him out. I know a strikers job is about scoring but they also need a work ethic to go with that and press from the front. Was Ian Rush not once described as Liverpool’s best defender and we know how successful a team he played in.

If you showed someone a video of Dzeko that had never seen him play and first did the Spurs game and then tonight’s they would never ever believe that they were the same player. That display against Spurs was one of the best individual performances I have seen from a blue, he terrorised Spurs and worked like a Trojan, what went wrong

This is the problem. When players who work their balls off have a bad one, it's easier to forgive.

If I had been Dzeko tonight, I would have been absolutely shattered & barely able to walk when I left the pitch, because I would have wanted to prove to Mancini that I am his best striker & I would have been running myself to death to do that.

If Tevez puts our shirt on again, he will almost certainly work harder than that & he has told us he doesn't want to play for us !

[Dunnylad]

My son is 5 and even he said that Dzeko should have come off much earlier - it was a dreadful performance that no one can defend with the line 'he didn't get the right supply' - I don't care what supply he does or doesn't get, that doesn't excuse being unable to pass the ball a few yards to a team mate & before anyone starts Aguero was crap as well, but he's had more good games than bad, the same sadly can't be said for Dzeko

[Sister of fu]

He wasn’t alone in being shite tonight but it happens all to often IMO with him. If we want to succeed at a higher level than he either steps his game up 100% or we replace. For instance Silva was poor today but nine times out of ten he delivers. Dzeko at times doesn’t seem interested or acts like a complete soft arse, I just can’t work him out. I know a strikers job is about scoring but they also need a work ethic to go with that and press from the front. Was Ian Rush not once described as Liverpool’s best defender and we know how successful a team he played in.

If you showed someone a video of Dzeko that had never seen him play and first did the Spurs game and then tonight’s they would never ever believe that they were the same player. That display against Spurs was one of the best individual performances I have seen from a blue, he terrorised Spurs and worked like a Trojan, what went wrong

This is the problem. When players who work their balls off have a bad one, it's easier to forgive.

If I had been Dzeko tonight, I would have been absolutely shattered & barely able to walk when I left the pitch, because I would have wanted to prove to Mancini that I am his best striker & I would have been running myself to death to do that.

If Tevez puts our shirt on again, he will almost certainly work harder than that & he has told us he doesn't want to play for us !

I think as City fans we can forgive the odd bad performance, what I can’t forgive is the lack of effort from him. Like you said he should be running himself into the ground but he doesn’t even run, he just bimbles about the pitch falling over and passing to no one. I am not one for slagging off City players but my god he is really starting to grate with his total lack of effort. I will never ever cheer Tevez but I can’t wait for him to get fit as a half arsed Tevez will be a vast improvement on Dzeko in his current run of form.

[chef]

In fairness, there were a few poor performances tonight but Dzeko's was atrocious. He never offered them a problem.

...and to Palus, That is why so many criticise Dzeko, he may score regularly but he offers so little else to the team and if he fails to score, his output is negative. Good goalscorer but a poor player.

it is obvious that we cannot rely on him upfront from the start , the only role he can be beneficial for us is coming on late in a game that we are chasing , he has become our david fairclough/super sub .

[13021J]

Thank God Tevez is back...

[Blue wonder]

Could have been a lot worse, beginning 2 question mancinis ethics, how many times dose he finish a game with the team he should have started with ?

[Wonderwall]

Thank God Tevez is back...

One wanker on the pitch who is fucking useless and another greedy wanker who doesnt want to warm up... GREAT

[Sister of fu]

Could have been a lot worse, beginning 2 question mancinis ethics, how many times dose he finish a game with the team he should have started with ?

He needs to wobble his head when it comes to Europe as we are not the same side. I love Mancini but this could be his down fall. We need to get a bit more nous especially when we go into the Champ's League next campaign. Another bow early out like this season will not be accepted I presume by the boys upstairs.

[NorthernHope]

He wasn’t alone in being shite tonight but it happens all to often IMO with him. If we want to succeed at a higher level than he either steps his game up 100% or we replace. For instance Silva was poor today but nine times out of ten he delivers. Dzeko at times doesn’t seem interested or acts like a complete soft arse, I just can’t work him out. I know a strikers job is about scoring but they also need a work ethic to go with that and press from the front. Was Ian Rush not once described as Liverpool’s best defender and we know how successful a team he played in.

If you showed someone a video of Dzeko that had never seen him play and first did the Spurs game and then tonight’s they would never ever believe that they were the same player. That display against Spurs was one of the best individual performances I have seen from a blue, he terrorised Spurs and worked like a Trojan, what went wrong

This is the problem. When players who work their balls off have a bad one, it's easier to forgive.

If I had been Dzeko tonight, I would have been absolutely shattered & barely able to walk when I left the pitch, because I would have wanted to prove to Mancini that I am his best striker & I would have been running myself to death to do that.

If Tevez puts our shirt on again, he will almost certainly work harder than that & he has told us he doesn't want to play for us !

I agree with you.
It really seems that he is not putting any effort.
But I wonder why? Maybe its not up to him - maybe he simply cant put any more effort that he did. Maybe he is just the way it is and thats final.

I believe it has something to do with the "trigger". After one good move from him, he lets himself loose and plays well. But when that "trigger" doesnt happen, he sees 60th or 70th minute and goes of without firing a bullet. Which is frustrating, for me as a fan.
Because I KNOW he can do much beter, I know he can.

[Blue wonder]

One wanker on the pitch who is fucking useless and another greedy wanker who doesnt want to warm up... GREAT

Mancini is a good manager but really needs 2 think like an Englishman, balotelle on the bench holding mid field 2 left backs, he needs 2 no we play 2 win, get wise mancini

[s1ty m]

Simplest explanation is usually right. Dzeko is not good enough. That has to be obvious?

[CityGer]

I agree with you.
It really seems that he is not putting any effort.
But I wonder why? Maybe its not up to him - maybe he simply cant put any more effort that he did. Maybe he is just the way it is and thats final.

I believe it has something to do with the "trigger". After one good move from him, he lets himself loose and plays well. But when that "trigger" doesnt happen, he sees 60th or 70th minute and goes of without firing a bullet. Which is frustrating, for me as a fan.
Because I KNOW he can do much beter, I know he can.

You've changed your tune.

[Ted Hughes]

He wasn’t alone in being shite tonight but it happens all to often IMO with him. If we want to succeed at a higher level than he either steps his game up 100% or we replace. For instance Silva was poor today but nine times out of ten he delivers. Dzeko at times doesn’t seem interested or acts like a complete soft arse, I just can’t work him out. I know a strikers job is about scoring but they also need a work ethic to go with that and press from the front. Was Ian Rush not once described as Liverpool’s best defender and we know how successful a team he played in.

If you showed someone a video of Dzeko that had never seen him play and first did the Spurs game and then tonight’s they would never ever believe that they were the same player. That display against Spurs was one of the best individual performances I have seen from a blue, he terrorised Spurs and worked like a Trojan, what went wrong

This is the problem. When players who work their balls off have a bad one, it's easier to forgive.

If I had been Dzeko tonight, I would have been absolutely shattered & barely able to walk when I left the pitch, because I would have wanted to prove to Mancini that I am his best striker & I would have been running myself to death to do that.

If Tevez puts our shirt on again, he will almost certainly work harder than that & he has told us he doesn't want to play for us !

I agree with you.
It really seems that he is not putting any effort.
But I wonder why? Maybe its not up to him - maybe he simply cant put any more effort that he did. Maybe he is just the way it is and thats final.

I believe it has something to do with the "trigger". After one good move from him, he lets himself loose and plays well. But when that "trigger" doesnt happen, he sees 60th or 70th minute and goes of without firing a bullet. Which is frustrating, for me as a fan.
Because I KNOW he can do much beter, I know he can.

I know it too but I'm sick of having to say it.

I've just watched Llorente walk off the pitch to a standing ovation at OT, he was absolutely fucked because he gave everything he could for 70 mins & then was running out of steam. There's nothing that Llorente can do better than Dzeko, but the fact is, he regularly does EVERYTHING better than Dzeko.

Dzeko should look at llorente's performance tonight & say 'that's what I'm going to do next game'. If he does, then even if he misses a few chances as Lllorente did, he will leave the pitch to a hero's reception.

His time is running out.

[Im_Spartacus]

He needs to wobble his head when it comes to Europe as we are not the same side. I love Mancini but this could be his down fall. We need to get a bit more nous especially when we go into the Champ's League next campaign. Another bow early out like this season will not be accepted I presume by the boys upstairs.

Europe was his downfall at inter wasnt it? Dont know the background to that, other than he kept failing then jose came in and proved it could be done. If it was because he was fucking about with experimental formations, or playing like a boring cunt and getting bummed, then he could be falling into the same trap when you look at many of the games in the knock out stages we have played under him.

In all honesty though, i think everyone is reasonably happy with the chance we have next week.

Just so long as dzeko gets nowhere near the starting 11

[dazby]

Tevez just went to number 3 in the pecking order without having to kick a ball. Dzeko invited sooo much pressure on us tonight by not only losing the ball, but losing it in really bad positions. I wanted him to be our number 1, but he's really got to show something with the very limited chances he'll get now.

[Im_Spartacus]

Tevez just went to number 3 in the pecking order without having to kick a ball. Dzeko invited sooo much pressure on us tonight by not only losing the ball, but losing it in really bad positions. I wanted him to be our number 1, but he's really got to show something with the very limited chances he'll get now.

Amazing isnt it.

Its probably going to turn out very fortuitous tevez is back because you just cannot trust dzeko now - and regardless what a twat tevez is, you can trust him on the pitch to give his all. Problem is, id have liked to have played tevez in the europa and mario/aguero in the league but obv that cant happen.

Would not surprise me at all to see tevez on the bench at weekend after this debacle from edin.

[Beeks]

I don't know why because I'm really not arsed

But I feel compelled to defend Dzeko again!

He was no worse than Aguero tonight..who I felt was garbage

And he is still one of the top scorers in the Prem

I admit he was gash tonight..but some of the over-reactions on here are comical

[charvet_wonderland]

Can we judge him yet? I think so. He was woeful tonight. He's a center forward playing for city in 2011/12- of course he'll score goals. Fuck the stats. Compare his touch to any other player in our team; Lescott pisses all over him. He's scored quite a few goals after backheeling the ball into both his shins & it somehow fell nicely for him to run onto & smack at the goal- I used to pretend he had a knack for it but now I really think it was just luck. Actually it was coincidence, not luck- Goater had luck on his side & he even said in his book that he practiced the art of the jammy finish. Dzeko will never be a goater for us- he gets far more opportunities & doesn't try anywhere near as hard. He seems like a nice bloke but he just plays like a twat too much of the time.

Anyway we'd have pissed it with Yaya on the pitch. Not too worried about the return leg.

[Im_Spartacus]

I don't know why because I'm really not arsed

But I feel compelled to defend Dzeko again!

He was no worse than Aguero tonight..who I felt was garbage

And he is still one of the top scorers in the Prem

I admit he was gash tonight..but some of the over-reactions on here are comical

You are right, and whilst he was gash tonight along with aguero, aguero will still have great game next week and the week after where he contributes in a positive manner to what is happening on the pitch.

The problem with dzeko, is he is fucking pony every time he starts, every single time. He displays a lack of desire, he looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights every time he gives the ball away again. I keep saying though that we need a plan b in games like these, amd it seems clear bobby hasnt got one, when its staring him in the face with dzeko and kolarov.

I said with rsc a couple of years ago that i felt quite sorry for him, as hughes knew what he was buying, then tried playing through the middle on the ground, why, why buy these players only to play them in a totally alien game? But, dzeko cant trap a bag of sand at the moment, so even nailing the ball into the box might not be the answer when he os as badly out of sprts as he was tonight