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Re: Dzeko

Postby ant london » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:57 am

As others have said, he was not alone, BUT he was fucking terrible last night. No desire, no application and some abysmal play.

If any of his fanboys even try to defend him today they should be banned from here.

He has 10 games or so to salvage his City career. Two more performances like that this season and I think he'll be gone in the summer.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby kinkylola » Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:20 am

he's just not the type of forward the fits in with our style of play.

It was such a clear difference when balo came on, it really highlighted the things the Dzeko just cannot do ... and he himself did absolutely nothing to remind us of the things that he can do.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Nickyboy » Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:42 am

Didn't help him that the pitch was like Hough End either
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Dubciteh » Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:56 am

I am no fanboy either but I have to say he wasnt alone tonight in his shiteness I thought Aguero was worse.

The thing with dzeko is he needs to be playing week in week out to be at his best. Mancini had ideal opportunity to play him against bolton and he didnt. I cant remember the last time he started two games in a row for us. So im willing to cut him a bit of slack in general.

The question is if he cant adjust to rotation why should we keep him? If he played for spurs and played week in week out he would prob be one of the best players in the league. If ade got the game time Dzeko got he would give us similar performances(in fact he did last season except without the burst of goals that Dzeko has).

We need a Solskjaer(sorry for using a rag), someone who can do it despite only playing short periods of a game and not needing to be playing every week to be match sharp. I read something years ago where when he was on the bench he would study the game indepthly and knew where the space would be before coming on and made it easier for him to score from the bench, while also still been sharp despite being in and out of the team. Who that player is i dont know, but it isnt Dzeko.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Nigels Tackle » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:02 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Beeks wrote:I don't know why because I'm really not arsed

But I feel compelled to defend Dzeko again!

He was no worse than Aguero tonight..who I felt was garbage

And he is still one of the top scorers in the Prem

I admit he was gash tonight..but some of the over-reactions on here are comical


You are right, and whilst he was gash tonight along with aguero, aguero will still have great game next week and the week after where he contributes in a positive manner to what is happening on the pitch.

The problem with dzeko, is he is fucking pony every time he starts, every single time. He displays a lack of desire, he looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights every time he gives the ball away again. I keep saying though that we need a plan b in games like these, amd it seems clear bobby hasnt got one, when its staring him in the face with dzeko and kolarov.

I said with rsc a couple of years ago that i felt quite sorry for him, as hughes knew what he was buying, then tried playing through the middle on the ground, why, why buy these players only to play them in a totally alien game? But, dzeko cant trap a bag of sand at the moment, so even nailing the ball into the box might not be the answer when he os as badly out of sprts as he was tonight


exactly. i don't see a 25 page thread dedicated to sergio....
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Re: Dzeko

Postby john@staustell » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:09 am

Awful, truly awful.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Crossie » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:24 am

The whole team shape was wrong, 2 defensive midfielders just fucked things up. Yaya is a traditional midfielder, he does both jobs, back, middle, forward. Did you see DeJong or Barry doing that? No? Did you see Milner doing anything? No.

Yaya is so missed not just because of how good he is, but of where he puts himself on the pitch. HE GOES WHERE HE'S FUCKING NEEDED. Help out at the back, win the ball, bring it forward or release a full back or spot the run of a forward, then he supports the attackers too.

Replaced that with Barry or Dejong or even Milner at the moment and you dont even have 3 footballers who can do one mans job.

If you play 2 defensive midfielders its so that your full backs can spend most of the game in the oppositions half, did you see Clichy go forward? I didnt, "oohhh im on the right, I don't dare go past the half way line because I'm so 1 footed I might fall over if I do" Kolarov bless him, performed below the national average, which is actually quite good for him!!


Last night sucked, we've seen it before, we should learn why this happens and fucking do something about it in the summer.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby dick dastardley » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:11 am

Dubciteh wrote:I am no fanboy either but I have to say he wasnt alone tonight in his shiteness I thought Aguero was worse.

The thing with dzeko is he needs to be playing week in week out to be at his best. Mancini had ideal opportunity to play him against bolton and he didnt. I cant remember the last time he started two games in a row for us. So im willing to cut him a bit of slack in general.

The question is if he cant adjust to rotation why should we keep him? If he played for spurs and played week in week out he would prob be one of the best players in the league. If ade got the game time Dzeko got he would give us similar performances(in fact he did last season except without the burst of goals that Dzeko has).

We need a Solskjaer(sorry for using a rag), someone who can do it despite only playing short periods of a game and not needing to be playing every week to be match sharp. I read something years ago where when he was on the bench he would study the game indepthly and knew where the space would be before coming on and made it easier for him to score from the bench, while also still been sharp despite being in and out of the team. Who that player is i dont know, but it isnt Dzeko.


i think with dzeko its a supply and demand he needs balls coming into the box from both sides and last night we had a left footed clichy on the right and kolorov who did put the odd ball in albeit shite. Milner was as bad as dzeko too, without yaya we look ordinary!!!
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:13 am

Can some of you GENUINELY not understand why loads of people aren't picking out Aguero's shit performance ? There is no difference between the way Aguero has played most games when he has started & the way Dzeko has played ? Really ? Do you really think this, or are you just taking the piss ?

And the comments about how 'it's not Dzeko's game' but it suited Balotelli because he can hold the ball up etc. So if a 6 ft 4 centre forward can't play the pass & move game because it's 'not his game' & he can't receive the ball, hold it up & lay it off because it's 'not his game' can you tell me exactly what sort of fucking ball he requires for 'his game ' ?

Basically, the suggestion is that we have a 6ft 4 centre forward who (according to some) has NO duty whatsoever to take part in the game. He just stands in the penalty area, waiting for a ball to be landed perfectly in front of him, & then he sticks it in the net ?

Is this what you are saying ?
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Kladze » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:26 am

I'm no great detractor of Dzeko - in fact I championed his cause when he was receiving stick here last season, saying he would come good - but last night he wasn't just bad. He was atrocious, to levels of atrocity only seen during one of Robinho's poorer away performances and beyond.

Absolute tripe. Needs to buck his ideas up or he'll be on his way.

Nice bloke though ;-)
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Mase » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:40 am

I can take a crap performance when a player still works hard. Most people won't pick out Sergio as much because he still runs his Chinners off.
Kolarov lost the ball in the middle and smashed the ground with both fists as if the world had ended. Compare that to Dzeko who actually passed the ball to the linesman when he was under no pressure at all and when the camera panned to him he couldn't give a fuck.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Beeks » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:15 am

Dubciteh wrote:I am no fanboy either but I have to say he wasnt alone tonight in his shiteness I thought Aguero was worse.

The thing with dzeko is he needs to be playing week in week out to be at his best. Mancini had ideal opportunity to play him against bolton and he didnt. I cant remember the last time he started two games in a row for us. So im willing to cut him a bit of slack in general.

The question is if he cant adjust to rotation why should we keep him? If he played for spurs and played week in week out he would prob be one of the best players in the league. If ade got the game time Dzeko got he would give us similar performances(in fact he did last season except without the burst of goals that Dzeko has).

We need a Solskjaer(sorry for using a rag), someone who can do it despite only playing short periods of a game and not needing to be playing every week to be match sharp. I read something years ago where when he was on the bench he would study the game indepthly and knew where the space would be before coming on and made it easier for him to score from the bench, while also still been sharp despite being in and out of the team. Who that player is i dont know, but it isnt Dzeko.


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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:19 am

Beeks wrote:
Dubciteh wrote:I am no fanboy either but I have to say he wasnt alone tonight in his shiteness I thought Aguero was worse.

The thing with dzeko is he needs to be playing week in week out to be at his best. Mancini had ideal opportunity to play him against bolton and he didnt. I cant remember the last time he started two games in a row for us. So im willing to cut him a bit of slack in general.

The question is if he cant adjust to rotation why should we keep him? If he played for spurs and played week in week out he would prob be one of the best players in the league. If ade got the game time Dzeko got he would give us similar performances(in fact he did last season except without the burst of goals that Dzeko has).

We need a Solskjaer(sorry for using a rag), someone who can do it despite only playing short periods of a game and not needing to be playing every week to be match sharp. I read something years ago where when he was on the bench he would study the game indepthly and knew where the space would be before coming on and made it easier for him to score from the bench, while also still been sharp despite being in and out of the team. Who that player is i dont know, but it isnt Dzeko.


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Why shouldn't it be Dzeko ?

Did you see lllorente playing in a pass & move game yet also playing as a target man last night ? Why can't Dzeko do that, or more to the point why DOESN'T Dzeko do that ? That's why Bob signed him, I'm bloody sure of it.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Im_Spartacus » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:36 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Why shouldn't it be Dzeko ?

Did you see lllorente playing in a pass & move game yet also playing as a target man last night ? Why can't Dzeko do that, or more to the point why DOESN'T Dzeko do that ? That's why Bob signed him, I'm bloody sure of it.


This is the chicken and egg problem isnt it.

How many times can you put faith in someone who you know has the ability but continuously lets you down. Or can you just keep sticking passenger in the team hoping he comes good like torres. He is running out of chances, bob must be tearing his hair out.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:47 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Why shouldn't it be Dzeko ?

Did you see lllorente playing in a pass & move game yet also playing as a target man last night ? Why can't Dzeko do that, or more to the point why DOESN'T Dzeko do that ? That's why Bob signed him, I'm bloody sure of it.


This is the chicken and egg problem isnt it.

How many times can you put faith in someone who you know has the ability but continuously lets you down. Or can you just keep sticking passenger in the team hoping he comes good like torres. He is running out of chances, bob must be tearing his hair out.


All he has to do, is bust a gut trying. If he really puts everything into it, even if he doesn't have a brilliant game, he will still make a difference to the team & the fans will respond to it. It really is all he has to do.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Tokyo Blue » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:57 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:All he has to do, is bust a gut trying. If he really puts everything into it, even if he doesn't have a brilliant game, he will still make a difference to the team & the fans will respond to it. It really is all he has to do.

I agree with this.

I genuinely wanted him to do well but sadly time has shown that ED is a gutless wimp who can't be bothered earning the obscene amount of money our club are paying him. First out the door in summer if I were the manager.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby bluej » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:58 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Why shouldn't it be Dzeko ?

Did you see lllorente playing in a pass & move game yet also playing as a target man last night ? Why can't Dzeko do that, or more to the point why DOESN'T Dzeko do that ? That's why Bob signed him, I'm bloody sure of it.


This is the chicken and egg problem isnt it.

How many times can you put faith in someone who you know has the ability but continuously lets you down. Or can you just keep sticking passenger in the team hoping he comes good like torres. He is running out of chances, bob must be tearing his hair out.


All he has to do, is bust a gut trying. If he really puts everything into it, even if he doesn't have a brilliant game, he will still make a difference to the team & the fans will respond to it. It really is all he has to do.


Exactly, and Mancini is more likely to give him the next game, and the one after that etc to let him get into his stride. He's only making it worse for himself poncing around the middle of the pitch.

As multiple people have already pointed out, the difference in Balotelli's work rate in comparison was noticeable when he came on and he's not exactly renowned for it.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby DoomMerchant » Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:33 pm

Ade was better and we ran him out of town on a rail when he was twice the defensive player Dzeko is and about as committed going forward.

His head on a pike i guess is the only option.

Cavani?

also, i'm not sure Tevez leaves or not this summer. Conventional wisdom says of course he's offski, but...i just have a feeling, that somehow, just maybe this freak of nature flip flops around and does something to show us something we loved about him.

regardless we still need 4 strikers, don't we?
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Socrates » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:56 pm

Dzeko is AWESOME...

...when he comes on as a sub in a game we are already winning
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Dendza » Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:17 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:Ade was better and we ran him out of town on a rail when he was twice the defensive player Dzeko is and about as committed going forward.

His head on a pike i guess is the only option.

Cavani?

also, i'm not sure Tevez leaves or not this summer. Conventional wisdom says of course he's offski, but...i just have a feeling, that somehow, just maybe this freak of nature flip flops around and does something to show us something we loved about him.

regardless we still need 4 strikers, don't we?




I wish city buys Cavani.

Just because he's doing well in SERIE A doesn't mean he'll do well in City. In a team where there is no through balls, no crosses, everyone plays their own game etc...

It was the same case with Dzeko. Different league -> different system/style of football.

Dzeko should leave in summer. There is no space for him in City and he doesn't fit in. I am afraid Aguero is going to leave too.
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