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Re: Mancini

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:28 pm

PeterParker wrote:This is the real test for him, if he can motivate the team and comeback from the dead to win the league, he is top, if not, he may go.
Simple as that.

The problem is this, i am convinced after this display, he will sacrifice the Europa league.


You could be right. He may well put it down to tiredness.
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Re: Mancini

Postby ant london » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:28 pm

If we sacked Mancini under any circumstances this season I think the only potential positive might be that Fergie dies......laughing at the fucking stupidity of it.

Thankfully it will never happen
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Re: Mancini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:31 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:When the team was announced I thought we could do something. When they lined up that all changed. We basically played 6 across the midfield and left no-one to occupy their defence. Aguero's introduction changed it a little at first until they realised he was basically playing from the right so they carried on with the original plan.

Why Mancini didn't introduce a front man I don't know, it's as if he was playing for the point that led to us getting fuck all, and deserved to be truthful.


He was poor today, it was obvious their defenders were geting too much time on the ball but he probably expected Yaya to close them down like an extra striker. Yaya, as we know, is a genius, but he does his own thing; give him any kind of marking or harrassing job anywhere on the pitch & he simply doesn't do it.

At least Bob saw it & changed it, but then it was obvious that we weren't creating enough & that they had a weakness in the air. He should have thrown the kitchen sink at them much earlier.

It's one thing to criticise him when he deserves it though but quite another to want him sacked when he's potentially building one of the best teams the Prem has ever seen.

I do hope you are not inferring that I want him sacked, as nowhere in my post, in my mind or in this world do I want that. We are allowed to critique though, aren't we?

PS. Mancini Out!


No I'm not but plenty of others are saying he should go if we come second.


Its not just coming second mate..there are issues in his tactics that reinforce me being not bothered if he gets replaced by Mourinho.

We all seem to see things that he just doesn't see and there are too many times to mention.
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Re: Mancini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:32 pm

ant london wrote:If we sacked Mancini under any circumstances this season I think the only potential positive might be that Fergie dies......laughing at the fucking stupidity of it.

Thankfully it will never happen


It might happen.
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Re: Mancini

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:37 pm

If Mourinho came, it would mean changing personnel again. We don't have the right players for his game.

I would rather keep the style we have now & let Bob try to build a title winning side. If in the long run he can't, I would rather have another manager with a similar philosophy take over. In short I'd like us to become a Premier League version of Barca.

I don't know what the big boss has in mind though.
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Re: Mancini

Postby trout man » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:37 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
trout man wrote:Barcelona are 10 points adrift of their closest rivals, I just wonder if their fans are wanting the head of Guardiola. Where have Barcelona gone wrong??? Mancini is a great manager and will prove to be a legend at City, we all have to remember that the rest of the teams in the Premiership naturally fear Utd and very few teams will be willing to take them on full tilt...as we have seen when you do take them on they have little or nothing to offer. It has to be compensated for when assessing our manager that the fear of Utd has probably got them 9 points this year at least and that fear is not going to go away anytime soon...that is why City are breaking records and still showing no dividends. We are not feared in the same capacity and that will only come with time and conversely Utd will have to have a couple of seasons on the rack before teams take them on and believe that they can be beat with attacking football.


Barcelona never surrendered a 5 point lead this season and also Guardiola has won EVERYTHING there is to win at BARCELONA.

Moronic comparison.


You really are on form today aren't you? (a rhetorical question). Barcelona haven't had a five point lead to surrender this year because they haven't been as good as Real Madrid. My comparison is to do with expectations and the reality of where we are and how difficult it was always going to be to win the premiership this year. We can all still marvel at Barcelona and we dont hear the same negative shit about them, yet very few people are lauding Real Madrid in the same way, City have always had an uphill task and I think today, the reality of how difficult the task is going to be has really sunk in. However, should we win the Ptremiership this year it may go down as the most exciting and historic season in our history...period. I have been thrown out of two pubs in recent weeks and have had to go home and ask myself why I allowed myself to be fucking wound up to the point where I was lifting a chair to bust open a fucking scum fan, wanting Liverpool to beat us....I realised that I was the problem and being up at the top gave me a fucking nose bleed and I struggled with the pressure...on reflection I now know that I have to adjust to being a supporter of a top team and not go round shouting my mouth off like a fucking lunatic.

I do hope you dont think this is yet another 'moronic comparison'
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Re: Mancini

Postby PeterParker » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:40 pm

trout man wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
trout man wrote:Barcelona are 10 points adrift of their closest rivals, I just wonder if their fans are wanting the head of Guardiola. Where have Barcelona gone wrong??? Mancini is a great manager and will prove to be a legend at City, we all have to remember that the rest of the teams in the Premiership naturally fear Utd and very few teams will be willing to take them on full tilt...as we have seen when you do take them on they have little or nothing to offer. It has to be compensated for when assessing our manager that the fear of Utd has probably got them 9 points this year at least and that fear is not going to go away anytime soon...that is why City are breaking records and still showing no dividends. We are not feared in the same capacity and that will only come with time and conversely Utd will have to have a couple of seasons on the rack before teams take them on and believe that they can be beat with attacking football.


Barcelona never surrendered a 5 point lead this season and also Guardiola has won EVERYTHING there is to win at BARCELONA.

Moronic comparison.


You really are on form today aren't you? (a rhetorical question). Barcelona haven't had a five point lead to surrender this year because they haven't been as good as Real Madrid. My comparison is to do with expectations and the reality of where we are and how difficult it was always going to be to win the premiership this year. We can all still marvel at Barcelona and we dont hear the same negative shit about them, yet very few people are lauding Real Madrid in the same way, City have always had an uphill task and I think today, the reality of how difficult the task is going to be has really sunk in. However, should we win the Ptremiership this year it may go down as the most exciting and historic season in our history...period. I have been thrown out of two pubs in recent weeks and have had to go home and ask myself why I allowed myself to be fucking wound up to the point where I was lifting a chair to bust open a fucking scum fan, wanting Liverpool to beat us....I realised that I was the problem and being up at the top gave me a fucking nose bleed and I struggled with the pressure...on reflection I now know that I have to adjust to being a supporter of a top team and not go round shouting my mouth off like a fucking lunatic.

I do hope you dont think this is yet another 'moronic comparison'


To be on Carl's side, look at what squad Barcelona has and what Real has. Madrid had the opportunities and the squad to rotate them all the time, Barcelona didn't. They have max 20 players, that are seen almost every week. Real has what? 30? They have 5 defensive midfielders, just for a fact.
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Re: Mancini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:41 pm

trout man wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
trout man wrote:Barcelona are 10 points adrift of their closest rivals, I just wonder if their fans are wanting the head of Guardiola. Where have Barcelona gone wrong??? Mancini is a great manager and will prove to be a legend at City, we all have to remember that the rest of the teams in the Premiership naturally fear Utd and very few teams will be willing to take them on full tilt...as we have seen when you do take them on they have little or nothing to offer. It has to be compensated for when assessing our manager that the fear of Utd has probably got them 9 points this year at least and that fear is not going to go away anytime soon...that is why City are breaking records and still showing no dividends. We are not feared in the same capacity and that will only come with time and conversely Utd will have to have a couple of seasons on the rack before teams take them on and believe that they can be beat with attacking football.


Barcelona never surrendered a 5 point lead this season and also Guardiola has won EVERYTHING there is to win at BARCELONA.

Moronic comparison.


You really are on form today aren't you? (a rhetorical question). Barcelona haven't had a five point lead to surrender this year because they haven't been as good as Real Madrid. My comparison is to do with expectations and the reality of where we are and how difficult it was always going to be to win the premiership this year. We can all still marvel at Barcelona and we dont hear the same negative shit about them, yet very few people are lauding Real Madrid in the same way, City have always had an uphill task and I think today, the reality of how difficult the task is going to be has really sunk in. However, should we win the Ptremiership this year it may go down as the most exciting and historic season in our history...period. I have been thrown out of two pubs in recent weeks and have had to go home and ask myself why I allowed myself to be fucking wound up to the point where I was lifting a chair to bust open a fucking scum fan, wanting Liverpool to beat us....I realised that I was the problem and being up at the top gave me a fucking nose bleed and I struggled with the pressure...on reflection I now know that I have to adjust to being a supporter of a top team and not go round shouting my mouth off like a fucking lunatic.

I do hope you dont think this is yet another 'moronic comparison'


Im just in a bad foul mood - everyone and anyone is a real cunt right now, so just ignore the rants.
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Re: Mancini

Postby trout man » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:43 pm

PeterParker wrote:
trout man wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
trout man wrote:Barcelona are 10 points adrift of their closest rivals, I just wonder if their fans are wanting the head of Guardiola. Where have Barcelona gone wrong??? Mancini is a great manager and will prove to be a legend at City, we all have to remember that the rest of the teams in the Premiership naturally fear Utd and very few teams will be willing to take them on full tilt...as we have seen when you do take them on they have little or nothing to offer. It has to be compensated for when assessing our manager that the fear of Utd has probably got them 9 points this year at least and that fear is not going to go away anytime soon...that is why City are breaking records and still showing no dividends. We are not feared in the same capacity and that will only come with time and conversely Utd will have to have a couple of seasons on the rack before teams take them on and believe that they can be beat with attacking football.


Barcelona never surrendered a 5 point lead this season and also Guardiola has won EVERYTHING there is to win at BARCELONA.

Moronic comparison.


You really are on form today aren't you? (a rhetorical question). Barcelona haven't had a five point lead to surrender this year because they haven't been as good as Real Madrid. My comparison is to do with expectations and the reality of where we are and how difficult it was always going to be to win the premiership this year. We can all still marvel at Barcelona and we dont hear the same negative shit about them, yet very few people are lauding Real Madrid in the same way, City have always had an uphill task and I think today, the reality of how difficult the task is going to be has really sunk in. However, should we win the Ptremiership this year it may go down as the most exciting and historic season in our history...period. I have been thrown out of two pubs in recent weeks and have had to go home and ask myself why I allowed myself to be fucking wound up to the point where I was lifting a chair to bust open a fucking scum fan, wanting Liverpool to beat us....I realised that I was the problem and being up at the top gave me a fucking nose bleed and I struggled with the pressure...on reflection I now know that I have to adjust to being a supporter of a top team and not go round shouting my mouth off like a fucking lunatic.

I do hope you dont think this is yet another 'moronic comparison'


To be on Carl's side, look at what squad Barcelona has and what Real has. Madrid had the opportunities and the squad to rotate them all the time, Barcelona didn't. They have max 20 players, that are seen almost every week. Real has what? 30? They have 5 defensive midfielders, just for a fact.


Conversely, Utd could point to all the injuries they have had this year and on the whole a weaker squad than we have and they are 1 point clear...doesnt really compute..does it?
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Re: Mancini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:43 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:If Mourinho came, it would mean changing personnel again. We don't have the right players for his game.

I would rather keep the style we have now & let Bob try to build a title winning side. If in the long run he can't, I would rather have another manager with a similar philosophy take over. In short I'd like us to become a Premier League version of Barca.

I don't know what the big boss has in mind though.


Mourinho will only be available for next season so if this season goes down the pan and we dont bring him in then we are stuck with Mancini whether he gets it right or not.
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Re: Mancini

Postby trout man » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:44 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
trout man wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
trout man wrote:Barcelona are 10 points adrift of their closest rivals, I just wonder if their fans are wanting the head of Guardiola. Where have Barcelona gone wrong??? Mancini is a great manager and will prove to be a legend at City, we all have to remember that the rest of the teams in the Premiership naturally fear Utd and very few teams will be willing to take them on full tilt...as we have seen when you do take them on they have little or nothing to offer. It has to be compensated for when assessing our manager that the fear of Utd has probably got them 9 points this year at least and that fear is not going to go away anytime soon...that is why City are breaking records and still showing no dividends. We are not feared in the same capacity and that will only come with time and conversely Utd will have to have a couple of seasons on the rack before teams take them on and believe that they can be beat with attacking football.


Barcelona never surrendered a 5 point lead this season and also Guardiola has won EVERYTHING there is to win at BARCELONA.

Moronic comparison.


You really are on form today aren't you? (a rhetorical question). Barcelona haven't had a five point lead to surrender this year because they haven't been as good as Real Madrid. My comparison is to do with expectations and the reality of where we are and how difficult it was always going to be to win the premiership this year. We can all still marvel at Barcelona and we dont hear the same negative shit about them, yet very few people are lauding Real Madrid in the same way, City have always had an uphill task and I think today, the reality of how difficult the task is going to be has really sunk in. However, should we win the Ptremiership this year it may go down as the most exciting and historic season in our history...period. I have been thrown out of two pubs in recent weeks and have had to go home and ask myself why I allowed myself to be fucking wound up to the point where I was lifting a chair to bust open a fucking scum fan, wanting Liverpool to beat us....I realised that I was the problem and being up at the top gave me a fucking nose bleed and I struggled with the pressure...on reflection I now know that I have to adjust to being a supporter of a top team and not go round shouting my mouth off like a fucking lunatic.

I do hope you dont think this is yet another 'moronic comparison'


Im just in a bad foul mood - everyone and anyone is a real cunt right now, so just ignore the rants.


I never would have guessed :-) I am just suppressing it...stiff upper lip and all that jazz...inside I am raging but adhering to the anger management programme
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Re: Mancini

Postby Wooders » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:46 pm

2nd place and no cups won't get him sacked - thankfully our owners are more pragmatic than that

They will however be very disappointed that we never managed to get daylight between us and UTD - that said they won some games they had no right to such as chelsea and tottenham
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Re: Mancini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:47 pm

Wooders wrote:2nd place and no cups won't get him sacked - thankfully our owners are more pragmatic than that

They will however be very disappointed that we never managed to get daylight between us and UTD - that said they won some games they had no right to such as chelsea and tottenham


5 points is daylight.
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Re: Mancini

Postby freshie » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:50 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:Of course we have fuckign improved on last season...we spent another billion quid before the season kicked off FFS !!!!! Even a fuckign spasticated banana would have improved us.

The season is a marathon not a race so all this Barcelonaesque football we played early on in the season will mean shit if we carry on as we are ..5 points ahead and now 1 point behind ,hardly a fucking away win since the scum and that's acceptable ???

Is it fuck acceptable and if we end up second with nothing to show for it I want Mourinho in - end of.


It's pretty obvious that you are pissed off after the defeat like we all are but you are also overreacting due to this. Spending lots of money doesn't guarantee success as I think you will accept once you have calmed down. If it did then Hughes would still be in charge, never mind the 'spasticated banana' ;-)
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Re: Mancini

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:05 pm

This was one that we should've got something but when you look at the CB pairing surely most would suggest that it could lead to potential mistakes. To lose the best CB in the league (my opinion) is a massive blow, but to lose both has to have a real detrimental affect on the team. The goal came from sloppy play from Savic (who is seriously low on confidence) while we were pushing forward, which was always to be expected after his recent performances, but is that Mancini's fault? I can't pin that on him but what I can say is that he should've seen it coming, the rest of us did.

As for the question of him being sacked, you've got to be having a laugh. We've been top of the shop all season and would be well away if it wasn't for the best season the current 19 times champions have ever had. That's no coincidence and there have been many occassions where they've had the luck of the Irish on their side, unlike us who have to contend with a ref who will give the opposition team every chance to fall over and get a free while the likes of Mario are overlooked because he is seen as a 'Bad Boy' - or should that be 'A City Player'.

Mancini has his faults, just like all of us, but he is trying to win the league while we just get to stand and watch. Could you and I do better, I don't know, but given the chance I'm sure we'd try - just like him.
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Re: Mancini

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:28 pm

ant london wrote:If we sacked Mancini under any circumstances this season I think the only potential positive might be that Fergie dies......laughing at the fucking stupidity of it.

Thankfully it will never happen


As we saw with Hughes and Mancini, it will if they think there is a better option. I really don't think that would be Mourinho, but they may think differently. But if Guardiola said he fancied it? Winning the league might not be enough for them to not take that option.
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Re: Mancini

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:41 pm

Lose a game and the same old name comes up. Let's have a Poll!
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Re: Mancini

Postby Bluez » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:41 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:If Mourinho came, it would mean changing personnel again. We don't have the right players for his game.

I would rather keep the style we have now & let Bob try to build a title winning side. If in the long run he can't, I would rather have another manager with a similar philosophy take over. In short I'd like us to become a Premier League version of Barca.

I don't know what the big boss has in mind though.

There would be no pint in changing now anyway, we have been top of the league pretty much all season so he must be doing something right. Its not unusual for a team not used to winning slipping at the end.

All we need to do it beat them at our place and the league is still on
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Re: Mancini

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Re: Mancini

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:50 pm

Bluez wrote:.

All we need to do it beat them at our place and the league is still on


assuming we at least match their results between now and then, including in our trips to Norwich, Arsenal and Newcastle
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