Mancini or Mourinho?

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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby Mase » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:56 am

Avalon wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Jose for me if we don't get anything this year.So the summer time for me.
The fact that his team now is tonking the best team ever ,ever,ever,ever,ever





ever,ever




ever,






ever ever
ever,ever,ever.
How people can say that they would not want the best.Bobby might be good but if there is better out there and we are now in the position to get it I think we should.


Barcelona is losing points against other teams. You'll find that in the last two/three season Real only defeated Barcelona once, or twice and they played them a gazillion times.


So Barca are losing to teams that Real are beating? That makes Real the better team, no?
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby Chinners » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:06 pm

The rags lost at home to Blackburn therefore we are the better team ... yes!
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby Rag_hater » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:08 pm

If he becomes available and we don't get him it will be bad news if those fuckers get him and he builds a team for them that can compete with us.Getting him to stop him going to them should be reason enough.
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby lets all have a disco » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:11 pm

Chinners wrote:The rags lost at home to Blackburn therefore we are the better team ... yes!



Mourinho is still a better manager than Bobby.

Whether he is the right or wrong man for us is debatable.
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby john68 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:12 pm

Rag_hater wrote:If he becomes available and we don't get him it will be bad news if those fuckers get him and he builds a team for them that can compete with us.Getting him to stop him going to them should be reason enough.


That is beyond stupid.
You already have something that is way ahead of schedule and improving. It is part of a long term strategy and you would chuck that away for a couple of years of possible success and then what?
Jose is good but he is about challenges,then he walks.
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby Rag_hater » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:33 pm

john68 wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:If he becomes available and we don't get him it will be bad news if those fuckers get him and he builds a team for them that can compete with us.Getting him to stop him going to them should be reason enough.


That is beyond stupid.
You already have something that is way ahead of schedule and improving. It is part of a long term strategy and you would chuck that away for a couple of years of possible success and then what?
Jose is good but he is about challenges,then he walks.

He might well walk but I think he would leave, leaving the fuckers so strong even our money would not be enough.He could get a few good players for them
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:38 pm

Rag_hater wrote:
john68 wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:If he becomes available and we don't get him it will be bad news if those fuckers get him and he builds a team for them that can compete with us.Getting him to stop him going to them should be reason enough.


That is beyond stupid.
You already have something that is way ahead of schedule and improving. It is part of a long term strategy and you would chuck that away for a couple of years of possible success and then what?
Jose is good but he is about challenges,then he walks.

He might well walk but I think he would leave, leaving the fuckers so strong even our money would not be enough.He could get a few good players for them


Jose, will bring the Pots home, he has that air sadly RM does not have sorry John when you are lining up the what have yer won Jose is the man. I don't like him, I don't like Tevez, but we need a lift and from somewhere.
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby john68 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:39 pm

Maybe he would leave them in the same state as Porto....or Chelsea....or Inter.....
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:39 pm

lets all have a disco wrote:
Mourinho is still a better manager than Bobby.

Whether he is the right or wrong man for us is debatable.


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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:22 pm

john68 wrote:Maybe he would leave them in the same state as Porto....or Chelsea....or Inter.....


Each club would take him back, I agree surprising when he leaves u think marriage over, then you see Inter owner !
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:49 pm

Any manager who won't shit it at the big moment and will attack the opposition please.
Don't think that is Bob. Not sure it's Jose either.
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby PeterParker » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:52 pm

I don't know how many of you remember, but Jose said he wants to go back to England, but this time permanently. But still, he didn't mention if he will be a one club man, on wants to manage every big club in England.
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:19 pm

PeterParker wrote:I don't know how many of you remember, but Jose said he wants to go back to England, but this time permanently. But still, he didn't mention if he will be a one club man, on wants to manage every big club in England.


I don't doubt the owners would have him, I have a nagging feeling he would leave for the rags though.
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby john68 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:33 pm

The 1st Division record of our most successful manager. A manager remembered highly enough to have a memorial mosaic outside our groung and a pathway to the stadium named after him. He and his memory is still revered.
JOE MERCER:.....15th, 1st, 11th, 10th, 11th, 4th,......at what point would you have sacked him?

The 1st Division record of the most successful manager of a domestic club. A manager that is hated because of his success, so much that we are threatening a jelly and ice cream party.
TAGGART:.......4th, 11th, 2nd, 11th, 13th, 6th, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd, 1st, 3rd, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st.

Considering some of you are even contemplating the removal of Mancini....Maybe you would like to take a few moments to consider if Taggart would have survived under you.
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby PeterParker » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:49 pm

john68 wrote:The 1st Division record of our most successful manager. A manager remembered highly enough to have a memorial mosaic outside our groung and a pathway to the stadium named after him. He and his memory is still revered.
JOE MERCER:.....15th, 1st, 11th, 10th, 11th, 4th,......at what point would you have sacked him?

The 1st Division record of the most successful manager of a domestic club. A manager that is hated because of his success, so much that we are threatening a jelly and ice cream party.
TAGGART:.......4th, 11th, 2nd, 11th, 13th, 6th, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd, 1st, 3rd, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st.

Considering some of you are even contemplating the removal of Mancini....Maybe you would like to take a few moments to consider if Taggart would have survived under you.


John, this may be the only reason Bob must continue. Taggart had 4 years, if i recall, before winning a cup, but still he won an european cup with Aberdeen and the title there, in front of Rangers and Celtic, who were remarcable teams, not shit, like today. Bob has 3 dubious titles with Inter and one Uefa Cup semi with Lazio, where he was just the manager on paper, the strings were pulled by someone else back then.

Of course, Bob had created some huge automatics in our play, footballers are capable of finding themselves with their eyes closed in the field and for a long time, we created a new style of our own. But can he manage under presure? Can he bring his players around him and motivate them enough to comeback from the dead? Do the players trust him?

I blame him for two things :

1) He didn't know how to manage the situation after the 6-1.
2) He didn't know how to manage players with personality like Bellers, Adeba, Tevez, Dzeko.

I consider Mourinho the best in the world, but i don't trust him like i trust Bob.

The only one i trust that ca win us the league without any trouble in the next years is O'Neill. He can bring us something, that no other manager can.


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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:57 pm

Mancini will leave at the end of the season, I just have a feeling.
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:02 pm

PeterParker wrote:
john68 wrote:The 1st Division record of our most successful manager. A manager remembered highly enough to have a memorial mosaic outside our groung and a pathway to the stadium named after him. He and his memory is still revered.
JOE MERCER:.....15th, 1st, 11th, 10th, 11th, 4th,......at what point would you have sacked him?

The 1st Division record of the most successful manager of a domestic club. A manager that is hated because of his success, so much that we are threatening a jelly and ice cream party.
TAGGART:.......4th, 11th, 2nd, 11th, 13th, 6th, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd, 1st, 3rd, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st.

Considering some of you are even contemplating the removal of Mancini....Maybe you would like to take a few moments to consider if Taggart would have survived under you.


John, this may be the only reason Bob must continue. Taggart had 4 years, if i recall, before winning a cup, but still he won an european cup with Aberdeen and the title there, in front of Rangers and Celtic, who were remarcable teams, not shit, like today. Bob has 3 dubious titles with Inter and one Uefa Cup semi with Lazio, where he was just the manager on paper, the strings were pulled by someone else back then.

Of course, Bob had created some huge automatics in our play, footballers are capable of finding themselves with their eyes closed in the field and for a long time, we created a new style of our own. But can he manage under presure? Can he bring his players around him and motivate them enough to comeback from the dead? Do the players trust him?

I blame him for two things :

1) He didn't know how to manage the situation after the 6-1.
2) He didn't know how to manage players with personality like Bellers, Adeba, Tevez, Dzeko.

I consider Mourinho the best in the world, but i don't trust him like i trust Bob.

The only one i trust that ca win us the league without any troubles in the next years is O'Neill. He can bring us something, that no other manager can.


PS; You are my favorite poster and i respect all your points of view.


Peter he is a coach, his mangement skills are poor In Italy he had a Buyer of players that the owner sanctioned and chose in many cases. RM has the tools top win the league here, does he have the bollocks to let them go and win it. I hope he has, I fear he is to conservative/Stubborn and fails to listen to B.Kidd and others, If it was me Vieira and Kiddo would be banging the drum more than say Platt.
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby lets all have a disco » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:13 pm

Talking about that fool,can we sack Platt yet?

I still dont like that weasel.
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby john68 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:22 pm

@PeterParker,
Thank you for those kind words, now can I take issue with you...:-)

I think that you may find that the 6-1 win changed things for us substantially. Before that most teams were happy to take us on, leaving us space, allowing our free flowing football to be successful. That 6-1 made coaches sit up big time and change how they played against us. From that point we were presented with a different set of problems that we are still coming to terms with. All part of the evolution of Bob, our tactics and our club. Our results show that we have largely learned to overcome this but not totally.

I have never bought into the Mancini "bad management skills" nor the accusations of the "mismanagement" of Bellers, Ade and those others.

Every new manager arrives with his own ideas, some players accept them, others don't and some find themselves unable to adapt, despite wanting to. A bit like a tug of war team mate...the whole team has to pull,if any are pushing the rope, they have to go or you lose.
It is all part of that evolution and it doesn't matter how good they may be, if they want to push, they are a liablity to progress.
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Re: Mancini or Mourinho?

Postby Chinners » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:29 pm

I'd have Moaninho over O'Neil anyday ... great at small clubs, totally unproven at the top level where we are aiming/are now (yes Celtic don't count)
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