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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Green & Blue » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:02 am

Surprised to see so many seem so at ease with his return to the side.Obviously time is a great healer for some.

He treated the club, teammates and fans with a total lack of respect, his actions were unforgiveable and he would not be back here if he could have helped it but has little choice after any possible deals fell through.

I hope he does not get booed as that could have an adverse effect on the team but i would be far from impressed if he gets a welcoming return.By the sounds of it some people seem happy enough hes back.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:10 am

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Blue Since 76 wrote:I just hope we're 3-0 by the 60th minute of every game for the rest if the season so that we never have to see him again.

Still can't believe some of you will welcome back someone who's said he wants to leave several times, effectively lost us the game in Munich, slagged off the manager, previous chief executive and, through his actions insulted the owner and chairman. Oh and said Manchester was shit and that he wouldn't even come back here on holiday.

I'd rather finish second and still have some pride left, than turn to someone who's done everything possible to fuck us over and say 'please let us love you more, we'll try harder'. Besides, if you can't win a title with a strikeforce of Aguero, Balotelli and Dzeko, a few players need to look at themselves.


And around and around we go.

Who said they want to love tevez more? Christ. The posts right above point towards city winning being everything and rightly so.

Coming second will never fill me with pride.

And a couple of dodgy refereeing decisions along with mancini and one or two players cost us that game in munich far more than the little cunt who wouldn't come on.

Its just convenient to lay it all at his feet.

The guy is an absolute lunatic and an absolute cunt. We all know that, so it will be nice to see him leave in the summer.

After we win the league. Please God.


Agreed, Tevez coming on in Munich was a desperate attempt to salvage a game we totally fucked up in by giving away goals Millwall or Palace could have scored. If we don't need him now, because we've got Aguero etc, how come we needed him then ?

Btw, If the owner and Chairman are so offended, why the fuck didn't they just kick him out ? They are in charge.

He's paid a huge fine for what he did & he's worked his balls off since he came back, to try & salvage his future career & end his City career by helping us win the title. Our objectives are now the same. City & Tevez both share the same ambition for this season (albeit for different reasons) & if Tevez is a success, even if we don't win it, it is good news for us, because we get more money for him & can spend it on a top quality replacement OR do a direct swap, rather than having to sell/swap a disgraced, truculant, fatty.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:45 am

Original Dub wrote:
And around and around we go.

Who said they want to love tevez more? Christ. The posts right above point towards city winning being everything and rightly so.

Coming second will never fill me with pride.

And a couple of dodgy refereeing decisions along with mancini and one or two players cost us that game in munich far more than the little cunt who wouldn't come on.

Its just convenient to lay it all at his feet.

The guy is an absolute lunatic and an absolute cunt. We all know that, so it will be nice to see him leave in the summer.

After we win the league. Please God.


The tactic in Munich was similar to that against Lisbon last week - take off an attacker (Dzeko/AJ) for de Jong and then put on an attacker (Herman/Dzeko). The problem in Munich was that having taken off our attacker the other one then refused to go on. We were therefore 2-0 down without a forward on the pitch. He may not have cost us the game but he cost us any chance of winning it.

As for the Herman love in, there will be people cheering his name when he comes on, people cheering his name if he scores. Wonder what he'd have to do before people would say enough is enough?
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:49 am

Green & Blue wrote:Surprised to see so many seem so at ease with his return to the side.Obviously time is a great healer for some.

He treated the club, teammates and fans with a total lack of respect, his actions were unforgiveable and he would not be back here if he could have helped it but has little choice after any possible deals fell through.

I hope he does not get booed as that could have an adverse effect on the team but i would be far from impressed if he gets a welcoming return.By the sounds of it some people seem happy enough hes back.


Fully agree. I won't boo, but I certainly won't cheer. I haven't cheered his name since his first transfer request and I'm not about to start now. If he scores, I'll cheer the goal, but not when his name is announced as scorer. Sadly starting to think I'm going to be in a very small minority.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:53 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Btw, If the owner and Chairman are so offended, why the fuck didn't they just kick him out ? They are in charge.

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perhaps cos that's what he wanted? Free transfer, so he gets a big signing on bonus and even higher wages. Still doesn't mean he needs to play.

He's made 2 league appearances for us this season (according to wiki). If he is going to play, let's hope we keep him below 10 so at least he doesn't get a medal.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Original Dub » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:56 am

If he scores the winner against chelsea I will celebrate like mad.

Winning the league means far more to me than carlos tevez ever will.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Dubciteh » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:05 am

Return of the King tonight.

He will score the winner.

Just watch.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby simon12 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:17 am

Simple question choose a) or b)

a) Tevez plays & we win the league

b) Tevez doesn`t play we boo him regularly & we finish second.

Answering.."what a stupid question of course it`s a)" should clarify why it`s easy for some us to welcome him back...Whatever it takes:-)
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:22 am

simon12 wrote:Simple question choose a) or b)

a) Tevez plays & we win the league

b) Tevez doesn`t play we boo him regularly & we finish second.

Answering.."what a stupid question of course it`s a)" should clarify why it`s easy for some us to welcome him back...Whatever it takes:-)


Simple question - are you saying we can only win the league if Herman plays? And therefore that the team that scored five at Spurs and six at the swamp aren't good enough to win ten more games?

PS genuine question, as I don't know the answer - how many goals has Herman scored since his original transfer request? Since he had that hissy fit this season, that effectively means the end of last season.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby simon12 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:30 am

Blue Since 76 wrote:
simon12 wrote:Simple question choose a) or b)

a) Tevez plays & we win the league

b) Tevez doesn`t play we boo him regularly & we finish second.

Answering.."what a stupid question of course it`s a)" should clarify why it`s easy for some us to welcome him back...Whatever it takes:-)


Simple question - are you saying we can only win the league if Herman plays? And therefore that the team that scored five at Spurs and six at the swamp aren't good enough to win ten more games?

PS genuine question, as I don't know the answer - how many goals has Herman scored since his original transfer request? Since he had that hissy fit this season, that effectively means the end of last season.



I would say he gives us a better chance Blue. The team that scored 5 at spuds and 6 at the swamp couldn`t score 1 at wba, blunderland and swansea. I want to win like everyone else on here, but I can overlook what he`s done as I see the benefit from a business side as well as being prepared to not give a flying how we do it or what others think. There are no morals in football pal and we don`t need to do anything to save football as they should all look after themselves cos they`re all putting the knife in whenever possible about FFP. He`s done his time and paid royally for it.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:37 am

Blue Since 76 wrote:
simon12 wrote:Simple question choose a) or b)

a) Tevez plays & we win the league

b) Tevez doesn`t play we boo him regularly & we finish second.

Answering.."what a stupid question of course it`s a)" should clarify why it`s easy for some us to welcome him back...Whatever it takes:-)


Simple question - are you saying we can only win the league if Herman plays? And therefore that the team that scored five at Spurs and six at the swamp aren't good enough to win ten more games?

PS genuine question, as I don't know the answer - how many goals has Herman scored since his original transfer request? Since he had that hissy fit this season, that effectively means the end of last season.


Many times in the past, Bacon has brought a player or two in at Christmas just to give the squad a lift & nick an occasional goal etc, even back in the days when their squad was full of talent.

We were scuppered in that, largely because we couldn't ship him out, so this is the next best thing. Imo, we should never have even entertained relying on Balotelli & Dzeko & I said so. The apparent patch up with Tevez though & his subsequent behaviour deprived us of a striker because oherwise we would have signed one in the summer & if we'd had an exrtra man, the title would be pretty much ours now imo. It's too much to ask of Aguero to be the focal point of our title bid in his 1st season, he needed help other than those two talented weirdos.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:29 pm

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Many times in the past, Bacon has brought a player or two in at Christmas just to give the squad a lift & nick an occasional goal etc, even back in the days when their squad was full of talent.

We were scuppered in that, largely because we couldn't ship him out, so this is the next best thing. Imo, we should never have even entertained relying on Balotelli & Dzeko & I said so. The apparent patch up with Tevez though & his subsequent behaviour deprived us of a striker because oherwise we would have signed one in the summer & if we'd had an exrtra man, the title would be pretty much ours now imo. It's too much to ask of Aguero to be the focal point of our title bid in his 1st season, he needed help other than those two talented weirdos.


I agree that if he'd gone in summer, we'd have brought a fourth striker in, even if that was only keeping Guidetti. Not having him has hampered our chances.

However, last season, after the transfer request, I recall him being pretty poor, certainly by his previous standards. Haven't got any stats one way or the other, so it's just from memory unless someone can find them. Who knows which one will turn up when he finally plays.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby PALUS » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:32 pm

This is the big gamble now , who s to say that Tevez could maybe make a impact ,think funs will never forgive him and if he can play at hes top now he shuld play but somhow for me this team was wining without him 5 0 , 4 1, 3 0 , 4 1 and play best football in the Leugue and we lost a few games and this looks somhow like we grabing a straw to hang on , yet i stll belive that this team is best team and for most of the season they prove that.the big problem is and i watch yestrday like almost all rags win this season , half of them are poor wins and i keep wonder how long they will have this fuckin luck.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby john68 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:42 pm

When the record book is written at the end of the season, it will either say Manchester City Champions or Runners Up. It will not have a little explanatory note stating that City finished with their principles intact nor that City were ethically or morally the better team. It will merely show the final position.
The City League stats of the 70s don't tell anyone that we lost Colin Bell, they merely show our finishing position. In the final reckoning, the team that gets the most points takes the trophy. Plain and simple as that. Nobody will give a flying fucl about the fragile egos of a few precious City fans nor their high flying principles.

Like it or lump it, in football terms, we are in a war with the rags...winner takes all....and there is no room for the "Aaaaagh but this" or the "Yeeeah but that."

At the Battle of Azincourt, the French knights were absolutely affronted that they were being killed by peasant English archers who had taken to their swords, daggers and anything other killing object they could grab. How dare those English peasants confront the French gentry?
Easy!...WE WON...and nobody on the English side gave a fucl who killed who, as long as the French were killed. BTW, despite all the moaning and a lot of dying, the French LOST.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Tokyo Blue » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:06 pm

Maybe the break will have done him good.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:36 pm

john68 wrote:
At the Battle of Azincourt, the French knights were absolutely affronted that they were being killed by peasant English archers who had taken to their swords, daggers and anything other killing object they could grab. How dare those English peasants confront the French gentry?
Easy!...WE WON...and nobody on the English side gave a fucl who killed who, as long as the French were killed. BTW, despite all the moaning and a lot of dying, the French LOST.


Must have been scary there, John. Respect to you.

I know the league table will only ever say who won and who lost, however, doesn't mean I want to see that scrote representing my team again. I don't care what the rags/Shearer/Lawrenson or others think, I just don't want him playing for us.

If he comes on tonight, scores and then lifts us his shirt to display a t-shirt emblazoned with 'Manchester is shit and I hate everyone at City' would you still be happy for him to play against Stoke providing he will do it on the pitch? Might sound extreme, but that's effectively what he's said over the last few months whilst in Argentina.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Mingchester Mingy » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:46 pm

Mancio4ever wrote:
Mingchester Mingy wrote:If he comes on and scores the winner , I wont cheer may be some of the funniest sh*t I have ever heard! He puts in the winner with 2 minutes remaining, and your not going to go Mental? I doubt that. Im gonna cheer for the guy because before he came here we were crap...and he has provided me with some of the best moments of being a City Fan. I understand how some may hold a grudge against him, but while he is on this team...I will support him and my club.


If he scores I will cheer and wank as I'd do in any occasion someone put City ahead, might even be the ghost of Bobby Charlton.
But what if Kia rings him some different instruction?
it's a risk I wouldn't be preparred to take if I happened to manage a Club who hold the registration of three of the world's finest strikers, fully commited to their Employer's success.
that's the point.


No Offense Cuz, but being a bit paranoid I think...maybe? One thing you can never question with Tevez, when he's on the pitch, he is going balls out and trying to score. He has never tanked a game or given less then 100%. If he comes on, Im predicting it now......TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVEZ GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:48 pm

Tokyo Blue wrote:Maybe the break will have done him good.

I think he'll play with a point to prove
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:55 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Many times in the past, Bacon has brought a player or two in at Christmas just to give the squad a lift & nick an occasional goal etc, even back in the days when their squad was full of talent.

We were scuppered in that, largely because we couldn't ship him out, so this is the next best thing. Imo, we should never have even entertained relying on Balotelli & Dzeko & I said so. The apparent patch up with Tevez though & his subsequent behaviour deprived us of a striker because oherwise we would have signed one in the summer & if we'd had an exrtra man, the title would be pretty much ours now imo. It's too much to ask of Aguero to be the focal point of our title bid in his 1st season, he needed help other than those two talented weirdos.


I agree that if he'd gone in summer, we'd have brought a fourth striker in, even if that was only keeping Guidetti. Not having him has hampered our chances.

However, last season, after the transfer request, I recall him being pretty poor, certainly by his previous standards. Haven't got any stats one way or the other, so it's just from memory unless someone can find them. Who knows which one will turn up when he finally plays.


Tbf, Tevez played a lot of games last season when he was clearly carrying an injury (he went away to try & get it fixed for the Cup final ) & it can take it's toll; it's happened with Silva this season & it happened with Bellamy the season before. In all three cases, we have played these blokes when we should have rested them because we didn't thnk the alternatives were of the same standard.
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Re: Tevez tomorrow night

Postby Mingchester Mingy » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:59 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Blue Since 76 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Many times in the past, Bacon has brought a player or two in at Christmas just to give the squad a lift & nick an occasional goal etc, even back in the days when their squad was full of talent.

We were scuppered in that, largely because we couldn't ship him out, so this is the next best thing. Imo, we should never have even entertained relying on Balotelli & Dzeko & I said so. The apparent patch up with Tevez though & his subsequent behaviour deprived us of a striker because oherwise we would have signed one in the summer & if we'd had an exrtra man, the title would be pretty much ours now imo. It's too much to ask of Aguero to be the focal point of our title bid in his 1st season, he needed help other than those two talented weirdos.


I agree that if he'd gone in summer, we'd have brought a fourth striker in, even if that was only keeping Guidetti. Not having him has hampered our chances.

However, last season, after the transfer request, I recall him being pretty poor, certainly by his previous standards. Haven't got any stats one way or the other, so it's just from memory unless someone can find them. Who knows which one will turn up when he finally plays.


Tbf, Tevez played a lot of games last season when he was clearly carrying an injury (he went away to try & get it fixed for the Cup final ) & it can take it's toll; it's happened with Silva this season & it happened with Bellamy the season before. In all three cases, we have played these blokes when we should have rested them because we didn't thnk the alternatives were of the same standard.

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