Mancini has to go?

[Beefymcfc]

Un'fucking'believeable! Just watching [strike]MUTV[/strike] Sky and they've rolled a psychologist out to talk about Mancini's comments last night, asking why Mancini is not talking up the title. Now, this alone is fucking ridiculous but then the gimp comes on, a ginger Irishman (nothing against ginger Irishman btw, just broadening the picture), and states that it could be a way of taking the pressure off himself and put it on the players, showing that he has not trust in them. Other bullshit is spouted then the presenter then goes on to say '...but he's up against the master of mind-games in Taggart' to which the psychologist comes out with the mighty words 'Man U'. Not Manchester United, not United but 'Man U'.

It's getting beyond ridiculous now where Sky are trying to fuel a feud but then using one of the clubs supporters to try and discredit the other team.

Sorry, just thought I'd share.

[Swales4ever]

When he killed the atmosphere stone dead last night, by taking off Silva just as he was finding form, Tevez the instant he scored etc etc, thinking of the chessboard for Saturday rather than building up the buzz which was going round the ground, it brought about the most negative reaction around me, that I've seen since he arrived at the club.

Something special was happening in the ground. Just let it happen for a few more minutes. He can't feel it. Within minutes, people who had been up doing the Poznan roaring the team on, were sat in silence, wheras others were going home. Some were even groaning & getting annoyed as the ball bounced off Dzeko.

I like Mancini. He's a nice chap underneath & he has done a great job this season on the whole. He's also a fucking robot & that is why we're not top of the league.

We have to keep him imo, & he will win the league sooner or later but I wish he was somebody else doing the same job. Someone with a soul.

Sorry Ted but, licker or not, as someone who have been witnessed his career since the earliest stage and known him personally, I can assure You that You are wrong, big time there.
Roberto Mancini is the opposite of a robot but one of the most passionate footballers of the moder age.

I am not having a dig Mate and probably I would have posted the same feeling if I have attended the Ethiad yesterday, but it's just because now he need to be totally focused to fight the turmoil which the rag lovers want for the City camp in the desperate attempt to stop the unstoppable. if stability remains in place and once City would have become Champions of England (whenever it will) we'll all see the true nature of the bloke.
and I have no doubt You will be glad to come here and praise him as You always have fairly done anytime Your worth judgement has deemed You to do.
maybe not an important point to make but, You know, when You have a big ego You have to take any rare chance to make one in respect of a bloke that is pretty almost spot on, like You do.

[Beefymcfc]

When he killed the atmosphere stone dead last night, by taking off Silva just as he was finding form, Tevez the instant he scored etc etc, thinking of the chessboard for Saturday rather than building up the buzz which was going round the ground, it brought about the most negative reaction around me, that I've seen since he arrived at the club.

Something special was happening in the ground. Just let it happen for a few more minutes. He can't feel it. Within minutes, people who had been up doing the Poznan roaring the team on, were sat in silence, wheras others were going home. Some were even groaning & getting annoyed as the ball bounced off Dzeko.

I like Mancini. He's a nice chap underneath & he has done a great job this season on the whole. He's also a fucking robot & that is why we're not top of the league.

We have to keep him imo, & he will win the league sooner or later but I wish he was somebody else doing the same job. Someone with a soul.

Is that you, Ted? You are the man who talks clear tactics and the need to win games with different options but now are criticising because Mancini made tactical substitutions to save players for Norwich?

I've been arguing quite the opposite for ages mate. I've been saying stuff the tactics & just go for it.

So, not only have you gone from 'Mancini In' to 'Mancini out' you've now given up on all common sense thinking? I was more than happy to see the subs last night and was rubbing my hands for Saturday. We, the fans, had a good night after a very quiet start and it was more the score from the DW which was fuelling that, not our game on it's own. And to be honest, there weren't that many staying once we hit the 4th, there were many already looking at the Exit signs.

[Twobob]

When he killed the atmosphere stone dead last night, by taking off Silva just as he was finding form, Tevez the instant he scored etc etc, thinking of the chessboard for Saturday rather than building up the buzz which was going round the ground, it brought about the most negative reaction around me, that I've seen since he arrived at the club.

Something special was happening in the ground. Just let it happen for a few more minutes. He can't feel it. Within minutes, people who had been up doing the Poznan roaring the team on, were sat in silence, wheras others were going home. Some were even groaning & getting annoyed as the ball bounced off Dzeko.

I like Mancini. He's a nice chap underneath & he has done a great job this season on the whole. He's also a fucking robot & that is why we're not top of the league.

We have to keep him imo, & he will win the league sooner or later but I wish he was somebody else doing the same job. Someone with a soul.

Interesting take ted, but for me that just proves why fans are not managers and can't think like them. I'd take the point for the fans he could have milked the atmosphere a wee bit more.. but how much more, enough for you, or some kids behind the goal or...
Nah, when his best players are going to be needed at 12.45 on Sat and were looking particularly knackered recently or not fully match fit, best to get them off while the going is good and look to them picking up where they left off next time out.

If Silva has gained a bit of mojo, he will be raring to go on Sat. simples
If the fans can't appreciate 4 goals and some sublime play then I really don't know what is going to satisfy them.

If Guardiola had been in charge Silva would have probably finished the game. It's not just fans who think like that.

And you are missing the whole point, just like Bob.

I'm not missing the point, but if I am then I'm glad, as the fans at the Etihad will not be there at Norwich, but Silva and Tevez and the others will be. For what it is worth, that you will disagree with because I'm trashing your lovely point, is that the players already got the good vibe from the fans as you pointed out, that's all they need.. maybe that is a bit robotic but if it has Silva and Tevez champing at the bit for Sat then Bob will have done his job and used the fans and the games' good tonic to great effect.
So, with respect to your point, I'm glad that Mancini is not so emotional. If there was no game on Sat it would be a different matter altogether.

I saw Silva head straight down the tunnel after the substitution, Ive no doubt that we've been patching him up as much as possible to get him able to start a game for us. Job was done - get physio on what ever's been ailing Silva for a few months now on and off and improve our chances for a win on Sat.

[carolina-blue]

Un'fucking'believeable! Just watching [strike]MUTV[/strike] Sky and they've rolled a psychologist out to talk about Mancini's comments last night, asking why Mancini is not talking up the title. Now, this alone is fucking ridiculous but then the gimp comes on, a ginger Irishman (nothing against ginger Irishman btw, just broadening the picture), and states that it could be a way of taking the pressure off himself and put it on the players, showing that he has not trust in them. Other bullshit is spouted then the presenter then goes on to say '...but he's up against the master of mind-games in Taggart' to which the psychologist comes out with the mighty words 'Man U'. Not Manchester United, not United but 'Man U'.

It's getting beyond ridiculous now where Sky are trying to fuel a feud but then using one of the clubs supporters to try and discredit the other team.

Sorry, just thought I'd share.

There are times That I am glad I am not living In England anymore think I would be spending a fortune on new Telly's. I know theres an off button but sometimes a size 10 through the flatscreen works better.

[Swales4ever]

When he killed the atmosphere stone dead last night, by taking off Silva just as he was finding form, Tevez the instant he scored etc etc, thinking of the chessboard for Saturday rather than building up the buzz which was going round the ground, it brought about the most negative reaction around me, that I've seen since he arrived at the club.

Something special was happening in the ground. Just let it happen for a few more minutes. He can't feel it. Within minutes, people who had been up doing the Poznan roaring the team on, were sat in silence, wheras others were going home. Some were even groaning & getting annoyed as the ball bounced off Dzeko.

I like Mancini. He's a nice chap underneath & he has done a great job this season on the whole. He's also a fucking robot & that is why we're not top of the league.

We have to keep him imo, & he will win the league sooner or later but I wish he was somebody else doing the same job. Someone with a soul.

Is that you, Ted? You are the man who talks clear tactics and the need to win games with different options but now are criticising because Mancini made tactical substitutions to save players for Norwich?

I've been arguing quite the opposite for ages mate. I've been saying stuff the tactics & just go for it.

In all fairness I 've been witnessed this attitude since I Joined. Teddy is a fine analyst, but deep in his heart he's the ultimate
"gung oher".

[Vhero]

When he killed the atmosphere stone dead last night, by taking off Silva just as he was finding form, Tevez the instant he scored etc etc, thinking of the chessboard for Saturday rather than building up the buzz which was going round the ground, it brought about the most negative reaction around me, that I've seen since he arrived at the club.

Something special was happening in the ground. Just let it happen for a few more minutes. He can't feel it. Within minutes, people who had been up doing the Poznan roaring the team on, were sat in silence, wheras others were going home. Some were even groaning & getting annoyed as the ball bounced off Dzeko.

I like Mancini. He's a nice chap underneath & he has done a great job this season on the whole. He's also a fucking robot & that is why we're not top of the league.

We have to keep him imo, & he will win the league sooner or later but I wish he was somebody else doing the same job. Someone with a soul.

Is that you, Ted? You are the man who talks clear tactics and the need to win games with different options but now are criticising because Mancini made tactical substitutions to save players for Norwich?

I've been arguing quite the opposite for ages mate. I've been saying stuff the tactics & just go for it.

Well said mate and your point about him being a robot is bang on lol

[Swales4ever]

Vhero IS BACK!!!

good omen...

[Vhero]

Vhero IS BACK!!!

good omen...

Hahaha yeah we shall see eh? I am starting to believe we can still win this title after last night. Lost my faith after Stoke game as rags never looked like losing but im babbling (i do that now!)

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Does anybody truly trust Mancini to have a real good go at Norwich?
Hmmm.

[Beefymcfc]

Does anybody truly trust Mancini to have a real good go at Norwich?
Hmmm.

I think we're just going to have to wait and see.

[brite blu sky]

Does anybody truly trust Mancini to have a real good go at Norwich?
Hmmm.

I do.
I've been arguing that it is the players more than Bob who clammed up. Simple version we bottled it, including Mancini. When it looked like it had gone they reverted to form.. or at least Norwich will tell us if that's true.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

A good post, however to look at it from another viewpoint. I think Mancini seemed to be trying to get something from Dzeko and AJ from the "feel good" factor buzzing around the stadium. Another goal involving either of them them would have created a more widespread happiness throughout the squad. We can look back with hindsight and say it did not work but if there was a time for AJ and Dzeko to be introduced with "no pressure" surely it was this. I agree Silva was superb in the 2nd half but he was probably trying to protect him having found his mojo again. Looking back the body language of Dzeko was atrocious and I'm sure he has mentally "packed his bags" to leave. I expect AJ to leave too.

very good post - couldn't agree more.

[Blue Since 76]

When he killed the atmosphere stone dead last night, by taking off Silva just as he was finding form, Tevez the instant he scored etc etc, thinking of the chessboard for Saturday rather than building up the buzz which was going round the ground, it brought about the most negative reaction around me, that I've seen since he arrived at the club.

Something special was happening in the ground. Just let it happen for a few more minutes. He can't feel it. Within minutes, people who had been up doing the Poznan roaring the team on, were sat in silence, wheras others were going home. Some were even groaning & getting annoyed as the ball bounced off Dzeko.

I like Mancini. He's a nice chap underneath & he has done a great job this season on the whole. He's also a fucking robot & that is why we're not top of the league.

We have to keep him imo, & he will win the league sooner or later but I wish he was somebody else doing the same job. Someone with a soul.

Think you're being harsh Ted. I did say he should have left Tevez on to get some more fitness, but that was because I'd forgotten it was Wednesday having had a few days off.

He brought on AJ and Dzeko, so not negative subs. Even Zab was relatively attacking whilst shoring up the midfield a bit.

Don't think Dzeko helped his case or the atmosphere with his lack of anything, but I think there was a change in the crowd.

When I got there, I wasn't sure what the mood would be, as we appeared to have blown it. But rather than being down, the crowd seemed relaxed and to want to celebrate the positives from the season. Think the early goal helped. However, as the game went on and the realisation that the rags could drop points, I think people became nervous. At 4-0, I probably spent as much time trying to get my phone to update the sky sports site as I did watching the game. And people all around we're doing the same. It wasn't a Chelsea type nerves, where there was a need to cheer the team on though.

[Swales4ever]

I was thinking about Savic when I read the battering he got on here and in other threads.Is he really that bad? I certainly don't think so although agreeing he isnt ready yet for a first team place with us yet. But maybe he can mature into the quality defender Mancini presumably saw initially.Only time will tell.He will have made a decision I am sure re whether to hang on and work with him even if it takes another year or so or just get rid and it will be based as much on his character while he is being slaughtered as the ability he has.

DH, pretty sure You are gonna snob my little comment, doesnt bother my ego so much, tbf... :-)
I certainly do rate very much your competent opinion whether I find myself in agreement or not and, most important, I do love Your terrific commitment on service of the Blues community with your great reports and take huge benefit from it, as all non Mancunian fans do.

I frankly find quite weird the Savic part of Your otherwise spot on analysis, because as from my point of view, possibly the biggest Mancini licker, the Savic issue caused me to link - for the first time ever - the idea of clueless to Roberto Mancini. I mean, clearly there are very few great talents around for the CB role, and the list is even thinner if You consider the enrolling policy of City which prefer young talents: thus I don't blame very much his signing. But sticking with SS after that back header assist to Defoe and that offload to Yaya which originated the Swansea scoring opportunity was just criminal, no matter what defensive contingency had to be faced: I rather have started Carl instead and painted some naked wags on the CFs opponent's shirts!
the bloke is fucking moronic positioning and tactical wise and melts down under pressure like a panicking Norwich's defensive line in front of the "allmighty" ragscums!

[Swales4ever]

Vhero IS BACK!!!

good omen...

Hahaha yeah we shall see eh? I am starting to believe we can still win this title after last night. Lost my faith after Stoke game as rags never looked like losing but im babbling (i do that now!)

let's hope your talking ability is reverting soon and you'll turn to be the modern Demosthenes, comes may... lmao!

while the time goes by, I'm just glad to read you back... :-)

[DoomMerchant]

Vhero IS BACK!!!

good omen...

Hahaha yeah we shall see eh? I am starting to believe we can still win this title after last night. Lost my faith after Stoke game as rags never looked like losing but im babbling (i do that now!)

let's hope your talking ability is reverting soon and you'll turn to be the modern Demosthenes, comes may... lmao!

while the time goes by, I'm just glad to read you back... :-)

perhaps the most surreal posts i've read here in a while. Keep em comin' guys.

[Swales4ever]

Vhero IS BACK!!!

good omen...

Hahaha yeah we shall see eh? I am starting to believe we can still win this title after last night. Lost my faith after Stoke game as rags never looked like losing but im babbling (i do that now!)

let's hope your talking ability is reverting soon and you'll turn to be the modern Demosthenes, comes may... lmao!

while the time goes by, I'm just glad to read you back... :-)

perhaps the most surreal posts i've read here in a while. Keep em comin' guys.

all You need is just a new parfume, Micaela.... You still top of the list and I'll have You wet soon again...:-==>

[Esky]

I frankly find quite weird the Savic part of Your otherwise spot on analysis, because as from my point of view, possibly the biggest Mancini licker, the Savic issue caused me to link - for the first time ever - the idea of clueless to Roberto Mancini. I mean, clearly there are very few great talents around for the CB role, and the list is even thinner if You consider the enrolling policy of City which prefer young talents: thus I don't blame very much his signing. But sticking with SS after that back header assist to Defoe and that offload to Yaya which originated the Swansea scoring opportunity was just criminal, no matter what defensive contingency had to be faced: I rather have started Carl instead and painted some naked wags on the CFs opponent's shirts!

Now that would be something.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I have no idea whether Savic can turn into Bobby Moore but why does he deserve time to become City's CB any more than any other 21 year old ? What has he shown us that means we have to persevere with him ? Why can't we just sign someone who looks like a really promising CB & persevere with him (but not in the 1st team) instead ?

Exactly correct.
Now IF Savic had come through Academy with all the homegrown rules in place I would kind of get the point in trying to mould him into something (which even in that case I wouldn't believe would happen but that is besides the point). But Savic isn't homegrown player and therefore if we see better 21 year old (I know there are better 16 year olds but again, besides the point) we should just sell him on and sign that better player.

Managers make mistakes every now and then when they sign players. That's life. Ferguson signed that one hobo clown from Portugal (his name escapes me) for huge money few years back, gave him couple of chances and realised that someone had done number on him. What did he do? He sure as hell didn't keep playing him but ditched him off as soon as possible. It's important to admit that you have made a mistake and move on.