What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

[Ted Hughes]

Whatever happened at Sunderland, I've watched Yaya closely all season & he sometimes tracks back & sometimes doesn't. My main problem with him is that sometimes he 'half' tracks back. David Platt, coincidentally, used to do the same; appear as if he was about to track a runner, then just let him go, thus nobody else picks him up. Yaya has done plenty of that at City & also is usually 2 yards quicker going forward than he is going back. Last night, he seemed quicker to get into position. Whether that's down to a word from Bob or because it's Liverpool or because of the importance of winning after losing, I don't know, but he played like a champion.

Awesome performance.

[Im_Spartacus]

Whatever happened at Sunderland, I've watched Yaya closely all season & he sometimes tracks back & sometimes doesn't. My main problem with him is that sometimes he 'half' tracks back. David Platt, coincidentally, used to do the same; appear as if he was about to track a runner, then just let him go, thus nobody else picks him up. Yaya has done plenty of that at City & also is usually 2 yards quicker going forward than he is going back. Last night, he seemed quicker to get into position. Whether that's down to a word from Bob or because it's Liverpool or because of the importance of winning after losing, I don't know, but he played like a champion.

Awesome performance.

Any thoughts on why VK got MOM? I thought last night was a stunning performance from Yaya, one of the best I have seen. His running on the ball away from danger towards the end and putting the pressure firmly back on Liverpool was a massive part of our victory last night.

At the back of my mind though I always wonder about his stamina since he used to take 5 minute lie downs after runs, but games like last night proves he has it, which is why the Sunderland goal, and some others this season were so disappointing from him.

[Ted Hughes]

Whatever happened at Sunderland, I've watched Yaya closely all season & he sometimes tracks back & sometimes doesn't. My main problem with him is that sometimes he 'half' tracks back. David Platt, coincidentally, used to do the same; appear as if he was about to track a runner, then just let him go, thus nobody else picks him up. Yaya has done plenty of that at City & also is usually 2 yards quicker going forward than he is going back. Last night, he seemed quicker to get into position. Whether that's down to a word from Bob or because it's Liverpool or because of the importance of winning after losing, I don't know, but he played like a champion.

Awesome performance.

Any thoughts on why VK got MOM? I thought last night was a stunning performance from Yaya, one of the best I have seen. His running on the ball away from danger towards the end and putting the pressure firmly back on Liverpool was a massive part of our victory last night.

At the back of my mind though I always wonder about his stamina since he used to take 5 minute lie downs after runs, but games like last night proves he has it, which is why the Sunderland goal, and some others this season were so disappointing from him.

I think Carrol, in the air, was tearing Kolo & Clichy a new arsehole at times on the quiet so Vinny had to keep filling the holes when the ball dropped off to Liverpool players or intercepting crosses. I don't know if you were at the match but the conditions were fucking awful & for all the piss taking, Carrol is a fucking monster who wins almost every ball against almost everybody. Vinny stood up really well & it was impressive. Strangely he was awful on the ball; it was more of a Richard Dunnepany type performance!

I agree though, Yaya was fantastic & has shown he could be like a 50mph travelling brick wall defensively if he pushed himself every game.

[Im_Spartacus]

Whatever happened at Sunderland, I've watched Yaya closely all season & he sometimes tracks back & sometimes doesn't. My main problem with him is that sometimes he 'half' tracks back. David Platt, coincidentally, used to do the same; appear as if he was about to track a runner, then just let him go, thus nobody else picks him up. Yaya has done plenty of that at City & also is usually 2 yards quicker going forward than he is going back. Last night, he seemed quicker to get into position. Whether that's down to a word from Bob or because it's Liverpool or because of the importance of winning after losing, I don't know, but he played like a champion.

Awesome performance.

Any thoughts on why VK got MOM? I thought last night was a stunning performance from Yaya, one of the best I have seen. His running on the ball away from danger towards the end and putting the pressure firmly back on Liverpool was a massive part of our victory last night.

At the back of my mind though I always wonder about his stamina since he used to take 5 minute lie downs after runs, but games like last night proves he has it, which is why the Sunderland goal, and some others this season were so disappointing from him.

I think Carrol, in the air, was tearing Kolo & Clichy a new arsehole at times on the quiet so Vinny had to keep filling the holes when the ball dropped off to Liverpool players or intercepting crosses. I don't know if you were at the match but the conditions were fucking awful & for all the piss taking, Carrol is a fucking monster who wins almost every ball against almost everybody. Vinny stood up really well & it was impressive. Strangely he was awful on the ball; it was more of a Richard Dunnepany type performance!

I agree though, Yaya was fantastic & has shown he could be like a 50mph travelling brick wall defensively if he pushed himself every game.

Yeah was there and the conditions were as bad as I have seen in a long time. More than anything it was his distribution and quality once he had the ball that I thought was poor. It's great doing the first part of the job of defending which is stopping the oppo, but its pretty pointless if you give it straight back to them so often (moreso in the first half) which is why I was surprised to see him given mom over yaya. It was definately his best game to date against Carrol who I thought before last night might have had the indian sign over Vinny.

Interesting point about "all the piss taking" out of Carroll. Usually when he plays us, in particular boxing day last year, he can look like a world beater. I thought that performance last year at Newcastle was one of the most accomplished centre forwards performances I have ever seen, in the air, on the ground, general intelligence. Just don't get how Liverpool manage to get so little out of him by playing in a system that simply doesnt work for him.

[Ted Hughes]

Whatever happened at Sunderland, I've watched Yaya closely all season & he sometimes tracks back & sometimes doesn't. My main problem with him is that sometimes he 'half' tracks back. David Platt, coincidentally, used to do the same; appear as if he was about to track a runner, then just let him go, thus nobody else picks him up. Yaya has done plenty of that at City & also is usually 2 yards quicker going forward than he is going back. Last night, he seemed quicker to get into position. Whether that's down to a word from Bob or because it's Liverpool or because of the importance of winning after losing, I don't know, but he played like a champion.

Awesome performance.

Any thoughts on why VK got MOM? I thought last night was a stunning performance from Yaya, one of the best I have seen. His running on the ball away from danger towards the end and putting the pressure firmly back on Liverpool was a massive part of our victory last night.

At the back of my mind though I always wonder about his stamina since he used to take 5 minute lie downs after runs, but games like last night proves he has it, which is why the Sunderland goal, and some others this season were so disappointing from him.

I think Carrol, in the air, was tearing Kolo & Clichy a new arsehole at times on the quiet so Vinny had to keep filling the holes when the ball dropped off to Liverpool players or intercepting crosses. I don't know if you were at the match but the conditions were fucking awful & for all the piss taking, Carrol is a fucking monster who wins almost every ball against almost everybody. Vinny stood up really well & it was impressive. Strangely he was awful on the ball; it was more of a Richard Dunnepany type performance!

I agree though, Yaya was fantastic & has shown he could be like a 50mph travelling brick wall defensively if he pushed himself every game.

Yeah was there and the conditions were as bad as I have seen in a long time. More than anything it was his distribution and quality once he had the ball that I thought was poor. It's great doing the first part of the job of defending which is stopping the oppo, but its pretty pointless if you give it straight back to them so often (moreso in the first half) which is why I was surprised to see him given mom over yaya. It was definately his best game to date against Carrol who I thought before last night might have had the indian sign over Vinny.

Interesting point about "all the piss taking" out of Carroll. Usually when he plays us, in particular boxing day last year, he can look like a world beater. I thought that performance last year at Newcastle was one of the most accomplished centre forwards performances I have ever seen, in the air, on the ground, general intelligence. Just don't get how Liverpool manage to get so little out of him by playing in a system that simply doesnt work for him.

This is what I thought was astonishing & why we have to be very very careful next week now Gerrard is back. I was having kittens shouting " Carrol is on his own with Clichy ffs !! " then that useless clown Downing would smack the ball straight along the floor near post or to the edge of the box, when all he had to do was stand one up far post & we were completely fucked. It took him most of the half, then when he did do it, Carrol won it without even having to try, nodded it down for Kuyt & Vinny blocked a certain goal.

If they'd done that 30 times they would have beaten us. I don't understand why they signed the bloke not to use him. In the old days, Steve Highway would be peppering him with crosses, as would Summerbee or Tueart & Barnes if we'd had him.

Gerrard may start doing exactly that, next week & force that clown Downing to do the same.

[Duckman]

http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/will-manchester-city-s-toure-face-the-same-punishment-as-liverpoo

Will Manchester City's Toure face the same punishment as Liverpool's Suarez?
Yaya Toure was caught doing a two fingered salute to Wolves fans yesterday, it was captured on camera on two occasions and people have taken stills from those images. For avoidance of doubt, we've been told the actions were towards the supporters and not instructions to a team mate.

Last December Liverpool's Luis Suarez received a one game ban and a £20,000 fine for giving a hand gesture to Fulham fans after they gave him a barrage of abuse during the game, calling him a cheat amongst other things.

It was probably over the top but The FA had to ban him because they had made their own precedent when they banned Stephen Carr, of Birmingham City, for giving the 'wanker' sign to opposing supporters.

This is where The FA have left themselves a hole, who knows what the fans were saying to Toure and whether that justifies the response? However, because of the precedent if they don't act then they're clearly not being consistent.

For Toure then to miss the all important Manchester derby would seem absurd. On the flip side, these players know they have the world looking at them and so to lose their temper and do something which can quite easily be caught on camera is a bit stupid.

Perhaps the rules on this need looking at again or perhaps players could just keep their hand gestures under control during games.

purplefuckface will set the wheels in motion and ban yaya...

[1950]

Nah, Suarez showed the middle finger, completely different. And this was presumably when we were two up as well, wasn't it? I bet Yaya doesn't even realise the meaning of that, as it's an entirely British thing.

[PeterParker]

Yaya could had even ate a chocolate bar in front of their fans and he would had been suspended. Bacon would not let this slip away.

Beside the biased decisions we will have next monday, the suspension of Yaya will be just a small thing.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

An obvious photoshop, look at the length of his index finger compared to his middle finger.

Jeez, they're getting desperate.

[mr_nool]

That could just mean 2 up or "V" as in victory.

[Im_Spartacus]

Is he not banned anyway for the derby for his 5 yellows?

[gillie]

Is he not banned anyway for the derby for his 5 yellows?

No five yellows at this stage of the season dosen't count as a 1 game ban.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Is he not banned anyway for the derby for his 5 yellows?

10 yellows for a ban at this stage in the season i believe.

I think it's 5 up until February.

[Im_Spartacus]

Is he not banned anyway for the derby for his 5 yellows?

10 yellows for a ban at this stage in the season i believe.

I think it's 5 up until February.

Cheers chaps

[ant london]

He was fairly pap yesterday....looked well of the pace in parts.

Hopefully that is his "rusty" performance out of the way and he'll be back on all cylinders Monday and thereafter

[Rag_hater]

I think a letter from a half decent lawyer will end this.

[Original Dub]

He was fairly pap yesterday....looked well of the pace in parts.

Hopefully that is his "rusty" performance out of the way and he'll be back on all cylinders Monday and thereafter

Definitely.

I'd start de jong ahead of him. De jong started the two games before that and we looked better when he came on yesterday.

Yaya off the bench if we need something different?

[Grob]

He was fairly pap yesterday....looked well of the pace in parts.

Hopefully that is his "rusty" performance out of the way and he'll be back on all cylinders Monday and thereafter

Definitely.

I'd start de jong ahead of him. De jong started the two games before that and we looked better when he came on yesterday.

Yaya off the bench if we need something different?

Yaya is a big game player, last season FA cup success proves this.

I'd like to see Nasri out for De Jong and Yaya advanced, his best position

[Douglas Higginbottom]

It's really down to the role he is asked to play.He is miles better in the support attacking role than a central midfield but more defensive role.Against Norwich he came on he went straight into the attacker role at a time we needed to score the decisive goal and he helped us tear tham apart.

Then ( maybe because Mancini feels he has to pick him) he was kept in the team but in a more holding role and did ok but as soon as he was released when Nigel came on the game just swung massively back in City's favour,we scored the 2nd and the job was done.

[CityGer]

No surprise he was quiet yesterday or that he looked better when pushed further up as part of a three.

He just isn't effective when part of a two man midfield, with defensive responsibilities. He has always shown his best form when played at the tip of a three man midfield and with the freedom to get forward and support the front man.

Surprised Bobby perseveres with him in that role. He's ineffective when utilised there.

I think Nige will come in to the side for Nasri/Silva against united and I expect Yaya to play in a more attacking role and put in a big performance.