pep to resign...

[Wonderwall]

or he's the next kenny dalglish...

I can understand pep

[DoomMerchant]

or he's the next kenny dalglish...

I can understand pep

well played. Yr playing Chess tho, and he's playing Checkers.

cheers

[brite blu sky]

I cannot believe anyone can even question peps credentials. The pressure that job brings is bigger than anything in english football. He has his footballing methodology and principals which has given us some of the most fantastic football I have ever seen. Barca were VERY unlucky against chelsea, if that pen had gone in it would have ended up being 5 or 6. Anyone who gets him will get a world class coach who knows how to play and teach the beautiful game. If they invest time and money, they will come good.

There are many who want him to manage the national team but it will never happen because he is a [strike]catalonian[/strike] through and through and the spanish fa dont like that.

He's Catalan WW and they love him from being a player to one of their own as manager and winning everything in sight. But that doesn't make them not realise there are limits to anything. I have chatted at length with long time Barca Socios, made the arguements I make above and they agree, Some have even looked ashen faced as they see what I am saying ring true to what they have seen on the pitch and know under Pep, but had never put two and two together. Let's see what they do, but there will be calls for Pep to reverse the policy of throwing out players who wouldn't play the barca system. He alone did that, no-one forced him. Now they have a brilliant team with one glaring fault, no other way of playing if it doesn't work, not even anyone they can bring off the bench in emergency.

I used to like barca a lot, but when they started playing like automotons I found myself just insanely bored watching and soon could not watch them at all, you can say that's my problem and it is but it also flags up that they are possibly missing something, games like Wed make it concrete and not just my interest.
They need to bring in some non conformist players, I believe that Pep Guardiola is dead set against that. Maybe he will now change his mind, he will certainly come up against a lot of pressure to do so from within the club and the Socios. If there is one thing they do not like nowadays is losing.

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

Thought for a brief moment Kenny Dalglish was mentioned in a thread about Pep Guardiola. Must be bed time.

[Wonderwall]

He's Catalan WW and they love him from being a player to one of their own as manager and winning everything in sight. But that doesn't make them not realise there are limits to anything. I have chatted at length with long time Barca Socios, made the arguements I make above and they agree, Some have even looked ashen faced as they see what I am saying ring true to what they have seen on the pitch and know under Pep, but had never put two and two together. Let's see what they do, but there will be calls for Pep to reverse the policy of throwing out players who wouldn't play the barca system. He alone did that, no-one forced him. Now they have a brilliant team with one glaring fault, no other way of playing if it doesn't work, not even anyone they can bring off the bench in emergency.

I used to like barca a lot, but when they started playing like automotons I found myself just insanely bored watching and soon could not watch them at all, you can say that's my problem and it is but it also flags up that they are possibly missing something, games like Wed make it concrete and not just my interest.
They need to bring in some non conformist players, I believe that Pep Guardiola is dead set against that. Maybe he will now change his mind, he will certainly come up against a lot of pressure to do so from within the club and the Socios. If there is one thing they do not like nowadays is losing.

They need to be very careful what they wish for. A change in mentality to the best team I have seen will see them fall apart imo. They have special players who can adapt but changing the way they play is wrong when its so right.

[Nigels Tackle]

He's Catalan WW and they love him from being a player to one of their own as manager and winning everything in sight. But that doesn't make them not realise there are limits to anything. I have chatted at length with long time Barca Socios, made the arguements I make above and they agree, Some have even looked ashen faced as they see what I am saying ring true to what they have seen on the pitch and know under Pep, but had never put two and two together. Let's see what they do, but there will be calls for Pep to reverse the policy of throwing out players who wouldn't play the barca system. He alone did that, no-one forced him. Now they have a brilliant team with one glaring fault, no other way of playing if it doesn't work, not even anyone they can bring off the bench in emergency.

I used to like barca a lot, but when they started playing like automotons I found myself just insanely bored watching and soon could not watch them at all, you can say that's my problem and it is but it also flags up that they are possibly missing something, games like Wed make it concrete and not just my interest.
They need to bring in some non conformist players, I believe that Pep Guardiola is dead set against that. Maybe he will now change his mind, he will certainly come up against a lot of pressure to do so from within the club and the Socios. If there is one thing they do not like nowadays is losing.

They need to be very careful what they wish for. A change in mentality to the best team I have seen will see them fall apart imo. They have special players who can adapt but changing the way they play is wrong when its so right.

hughes is 16/1 with stan james...

[s1ty m]

Without messi he would of won one or two copa del rays or whatever there called and nothing else. Barca for all there very good players are a one man team when it comes down to it.

I find it hard to disagree with that. They looked shite this week. Messi has too many crap piles, as per this week. Not nearly in Maradona's class. Not even close.

[s1ty m]

I find it hard to disagree with that. They looked shite this week. Messi has too many crap piles, as per this week. Not nearly in Maradona's class. Not even close.

Though Iniesta and Puyol are utterly brilliant.

[brite blu sky]

He's Catalan WW and they love him from being a player to one of their own as manager and winning everything in sight. But that doesn't make them not realise there are limits to anything. I have chatted at length with long time Barca Socios, made the arguements I make above and they agree, Some have even looked ashen faced as they see what I am saying ring true to what they have seen on the pitch and know under Pep, but had never put two and two together. Let's see what they do, but there will be calls for Pep to reverse the policy of throwing out players who wouldn't play the barca system. He alone did that, no-one forced him. Now they have a brilliant team with one glaring fault, no other way of playing if it doesn't work, not even anyone they can bring off the bench in emergency.

I used to like barca a lot, but when they started playing like automotons I found myself just insanely bored watching and soon could not watch them at all, you can say that's my problem and it is but it also flags up that they are possibly missing something, games like Wed make it concrete and not just my interest.
They need to bring in some non conformist players, I believe that Pep Guardiola is dead set against that. Maybe he will now change his mind, he will certainly come up against a lot of pressure to do so from within the club and the Socios. If there is one thing they do not like nowadays is losing.

They need to be very careful what they wish for. A change in mentality to the best team I have seen will see them fall apart imo. They have special players who can adapt but changing the way they play is wrong when its so right.

They dont have to change the system, they just need a couple of players that don't conform, wildcards, someone unpredictable who will do something different. It isn't even to do that to try and flummox the oppo it is actually to throw a spanner in their own works and create more diversity. Rijkaard had it about right, Pep actually inherited that team and threw out the non system players. All they need is to bring some back in. My point is that Guardiola made that policy himself. I see the BBC are reporting he is saying himself he can't go on. That would be no surprise to me tbh as he must know himself that he created the bed he is now lying in. He has converted them to a team of robots.. that is what he wanted. The robots can't do anything else other than the programmed formulea. I'll give you it is fucking sad, but watching the first and second legs v Chelsea was like pulling fucking teeth. What team in the world goes about desperately trying to get a winner by doing the same thing over and over and over. Painful to watch bordering on embarrassing, so embarrassing tactically he is going to resign.

In a wider context I fuclin hope that City take note of barca's failings, as we have discussed on here it is unlikely City would end up like that due to the rigours of the Prem, but it looked at times like we were getting dangerously close for my liking anyhow.

[bigblue]

They dont have to change the system, they just need a couple of players that don't conform, wildcards, someone unpredictable who will do something different.

The game wednesday was crying out for an Ibra type player. Too bad Guardiola shoved him away for the reasons you say above. And here is Ibra's take on the situation - a bit like what some people see as Mancini's fault:

[youtube]kHtRqdu-iKQ[/youtube]

[Original Dub]

Interesting thread.

I'm convinced some folk can't reply without writing fucking essays on each subject but I'll give my tuppence...

Pep is a very good manager. As long as the english press don't get their hands on him.

If we had him right now and results were the same, I'd say stick with him. But if the guy can't stick with them, then how in God's name could we expect him to stick with us?

We have our guy. He is fucking mint and right now, I wouldn't change him for any manager in the world.

His biggest fault imo has been tevez. Pure and simple. Whether its his fault or kia's or whoever... If they were bezzies, we would have walked this league.

So, if a player can be so instrumental in how you are determined in the premier league then ok, I'll take pep over bob. But only if lionel comes too.

[Bianchi on Ice]

He's Catalan WW and they love him from being a player to one of their own as manager and winning everything in sight. But that doesn't make them not realise there are limits to anything. I have chatted at length with long time Barca Socios, made the arguements I make above and they agree, Some have even looked ashen faced as they see what I am saying ring true to what they have seen on the pitch and know under Pep, but had never put two and two together. Let's see what they do, but there will be calls for Pep to reverse the policy of throwing out players who wouldn't play the barca system. He alone did that, no-one forced him. Now they have a brilliant team with one glaring fault, no other way of playing if it doesn't work, not even anyone they can bring off the bench in emergency.

I used to like barca a lot, but when they started playing like automotons I found myself just insanely bored watching and soon could not watch them at all, you can say that's my problem and it is but it also flags up that they are possibly missing something, games like Wed make it concrete and not just my interest.
They need to bring in some non conformist players, I believe that Pep Guardiola is dead set against that. Maybe he will now change his mind, he will certainly come up against a lot of pressure to do so from within the club and the Socios. If there is one thing they do not like nowadays is losing.

They need to be very careful what they wish for. A change in mentality to the best team I have seen will see them fall apart imo. They have special players who can adapt but changing the way they play is wrong when its so right.

hughes is 16/1 with stan james...

sid james maybe

[Hazy2]

Pep is not renewing his contract, Imho with out player, he would bring so much Glory even the early leavers would have to stay.

[PeterParker]

It seems that he has just informed his squad he will resign. This news is all over the internet.

[trout man]

I cannot believe anyone can even question peps credentials. The pressure that job brings is bigger than anything in english football. He has his footballing methodology and principals which has given us some of the most fantastic football I have ever seen. Barca were VERY unlucky against chelsea, if that pen had gone in it would have ended up being 5 or 6. Anyone who gets him will get a world class coach who knows how to play and teach the beautiful game. If they invest time and money, they will come good.

There are many who want him to manage the national team but it will never happen because he is a catalonian through and through and the spanish fa dont like that.

This and only This

[Bluemoon16]

CNN just confirmed it.

[ashton287]

CNN just confirmed it.

That was nice of them. Now we know someone should start a thread about it.

[Hazy2]

He also got rid of Et'o Ronaldiniho, plus a wealth of stars who had been very good but a pain in the arse. Top manager and the only one I would get rid of Bob for.

[kinkylola]

Future director of city youth development.

[Ted Hughes]

Future director of city youth development.

This would be my dream & although it sounds like a joke, it's not impossible that Guardiola doesn't actually like being a manager.

Either he doesn't enjoy being a manager or he doesn't enjoy being Barca's manager imo. We shall see.

There is of course another scenario.

If it's purely that he wants to get away from Barca then it's not impossible he could do a 'Mancini' to either Wenger or Mancini; take time off, watch football, make your move when the time comes.

I am watching to see if Bob is offered or requests a new contract. His latest interview kind of comes accross as if the agreement is he's here for next season & then 'anything can happen'. Bob won't wait til then with no contract, he'll agree with another club.

I wouldn't like to see Bob go through next season without signing an extension as otherwise it will become nailed on that Guardiola is taking over & it will ruin everything.

Going back to the original idea though; if Pep has had enough of management, give him the academy job. He could even come through & be manager in ten years if he wanted, he's young enough !