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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu May 17, 2012 3:44 pm

MARKMAKAVELI wrote:I didn't see that mentioned on the list of benefits.

Cool, i'll probably do it then as I'll be signing up to all the cup schemes. Goodbye wages!!!


For me its a bit of something that makes you feel like you are getting something in return - when actually, you are not. I paid it last year as I didnt really look into it, but I won't be doing this year, it's just not worth it - essentially buying loyalty points.

I suppose it depends what you want the loyalty points for and where you stand now. If newer fans are thinking of paying the extra for the double loyalty points, consider this.

The top 5000 or so in loyalty points will have in excess of 6/7000 points, and therefore if you havent had an ST for decades, or never go to away games, you are never going to catch these people up. Thus, you will never be first in line for away tickets in the league.

The remainder who have had an ST at City for say the last 10 years, which I would say number well over 25,000 all have between 3500-5000, so again, you are not going to be catching those. Thus you will be a long way down the line for European aways, borderline whether you get a ticket for Wembley, and no chance of a European final.

It will take the best part of 10/15 years before you are even approaching the first tier of lngstanding ST holders, let alone those at the very top of the tree, whom you will never catch cos they will always attend more aways than you.

I fit at the top of that middle bracket on about 5000 points, safe enough for a Wembley seat, reasonable chance of away tickets and a european final seat, but not for the more in demand away games, and I will go to enough aways/cup games to keep those behind me at bay, so there is little point paying an extra £50.
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby saulman » Thu May 17, 2012 3:54 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
MARKMAKAVELI wrote:I didn't see that mentioned on the list of benefits.

Cool, i'll probably do it then as I'll be signing up to all the cup schemes. Goodbye wages!!!


For me its a bit of something that makes you feel like you are getting something in return - when actually, you are not. I paid it last year as I didnt really look into it, but I won't be doing this year, it's just not worth it - essentially buying loyalty points.

I suppose it depends what you want the loyalty points for and where you stand now. If newer fans are thinking of paying the extra for the double loyalty points, consider this.

The top 5000 or so in loyalty points will have in excess of 6/7000 points, and therefore if you havent had an ST for decades, or never go to away games, you are never going to catch these people up. Thus, you will never be first in line for away tickets in the league.

The remainder who have had an ST at City for say the last 10 years, which I would say number well over 25,000 all have between 3500-5000, so again, you are not going to be catching those. Thus you will be a long way down the line for European aways, borderline whether you get a ticket for Wembley, and no chance of a European final.

It will take the best part of 10/15 years before you are even approaching the first tier of lngstanding ST holders, let alone those at the very top of the tree, whom you will never catch cos they will always attend more aways than you.

I fit at the top of that middle bracket on about 5000 points, safe enough for a Wembley seat, reasonable chance of away tickets and a european final seat, but not for the more in demand away games, and I will go to enough aways/cup games to keep those behind me at bay, so there is little point paying an extra £50.


I'm in a very similar boat, but I also refuse on principle. The thought of buying loyalty points is just plain wrong, IMO.
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Feed The Goat » Thu May 17, 2012 3:54 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
For me its a bit of something that makes you feel like you are getting something in return - when actually, you are not. I paid it last year as I didnt really look into it, but I won't be doing this year, it's just not worth it - essentially buying loyalty points.

I suppose it depends what you want the loyalty points for and where you stand now. If newer fans are thinking of paying the extra for the double loyalty points, consider this.

The top 5000 or so in loyalty points will have in excess of 6/7000 points, and therefore if you havent had an ST for decades, or never go to away games, you are never going to catch these people up. Thus, you will never be first in line for away tickets in the league.

The remainder who have had an ST at City for say the last 10 years, which I would say number well over 25,000 all have between 3500-5000, so again, you are not going to be catching those. Thus you will be a long way down the line for European aways, borderline whether you get a ticket for Wembley, and no chance of a European final.

It will take the best part of 10/15 years before you are even approaching the first tier of lngstanding ST holders, let alone those at the very top of the tree, whom you will never catch cos they will always attend more aways than you.

I fit at the top of that middle bracket on about 5000 points, safe enough for a Wembley seat, reasonable chance of away tickets and a european final seat, but not for the more in demand away games, and I will go to enough aways/cup games to keep those behind me at bay, so there is little point paying an extra £50.


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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu May 17, 2012 3:57 pm

If anyone whinges about the cost of watching the premier league champions play at ETIHAD then they need to give themselves a million slaps.

The owners have every right to increase it nearly every year..and City fans should expect it and accept it.
Up to now they have treated the fans very well.
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Feed The Goat » Thu May 17, 2012 4:02 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:If anyone whinges about the cost of watching the premier league champions play at ETIHAD then they need to give themselves a million slaps.

The owners have every right to increase it nearly every year..and City fans should expect it and accept it.
Up to now they have treated the fans very well.


It's still a good price as far as I'm concerned If u look how expensive the swamp is
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu May 17, 2012 4:16 pm

Feed The Goat wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
For me its a bit of something that makes you feel like you are getting something in return - when actually, you are not. I paid it last year as I didnt really look into it, but I won't be doing this year, it's just not worth it - essentially buying loyalty points.

I suppose it depends what you want the loyalty points for and where you stand now. If newer fans are thinking of paying the extra for the double loyalty points, consider this.

The top 5000 or so in loyalty points will have in excess of 6/7000 points, and therefore if you havent had an ST for decades, or never go to away games, you are never going to catch these people up. Thus, you will never be first in line for away tickets in the league.

The remainder who have had an ST at City for say the last 10 years, which I would say number well over 25,000 all have between 3500-5000, so again, you are not going to be catching those. Thus you will be a long way down the line for European aways, borderline whether you get a ticket for Wembley, and no chance of a European final.

It will take the best part of 10/15 years before you are even approaching the first tier of lngstanding ST holders, let alone those at the very top of the tree, whom you will never catch cos they will always attend more aways than you.

I fit at the top of that middle bracket on about 5000 points, safe enough for a Wembley seat, reasonable chance of away tickets and a european final seat, but not for the more in demand away games, and I will go to enough aways/cup games to keep those behind me at bay, so there is little point paying an extra £50.


If everyone behind you doubles up they will soon pass and catch you


Thats what the club hopes you think.......the reality is a little different

You get 190 points extra for the season ticket
You get 10 points extra for the cup games
Last season, that would have come to around 250 points that someone could realistically have caught me - minus the 80 points I would have got for the 8 aways I went to. That means someone on platinum, on on 4000 points, would have to spend 6 years and an extra £300, plus manage to make several away games (that they typically dont go to because the away tickets rarely go below 5000pts), before I had any issue with people catching me.

To put it into perspective, the first batch of FA Cup Final tickets sold down to about 3250 if I remember last season, and they even went lower than that, and every season ticket holder who wanted one (I think), got tickets for the semi.

The fear the club hope to instill is that you will fall behind, or you wont get an advantage by being on the platinum scheme, but it's bollocks. Those at the lower end of the points spectrum can't get away tickets, so apart from the 250 points extra for the league and cup games, its pretty futile, as nobody is going to catch the people ahead of them.

If you are at the bottom rung of the ladder, and want to get quick leg up above the 10000 or so who have got season tickets in the last 4 years, then fine, but i'm just highlighting that you won't catch those who are in pole position for the important games.
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Feed The Goat » Thu May 17, 2012 4:21 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Thats what the club hopes you think.......the reality is a little different

You get 190 points extra for the season ticket
You get 10 points extra for the cup games
Last season, that would have come to around 250 points that someone could realistically have caught me - minus the 80 points I would have got for the 8 aways I went to. That means someone on platinum, on on 4000 points, would have to spend 6 years and an extra £300, plus manage to make several away games (that they typically dont go to because the away tickets rarely go below 5000pts), before I had any issue with people catching me.

To put it into perspective, the first batch of FA Cup Final tickets sold down to about 3250 if I remember last season, and they even went lower than that, and every season ticket holder who wanted one (I think), got tickets for the semi.

The fear the club hope to instill is that you will fall behind, or you wont get an advantage by being on the platinum scheme, but it's bollocks. Those at the lower end of the points spectrum can't get away tickets, so apart from the 250 points extra for the league and cup games, its pretty futile, as nobody is going to catch the people ahead of them.

If you are at the bottom rung of the ladder, and want to get quick leg up above the 10000 or so who have got season tickets in the last 4 years, then fine, but i'm just highlighting that you won't catch those who are in pole position for the important games.


I get 380 for renewing the 200 FA cup 200 league cup and 200 champs league. That's 980 plus double for each ticket I buy
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby ashton287 » Thu May 17, 2012 4:25 pm

£600 for mine in 110. Think that's a £50 increase but I can't remember. Good job my mum pays for them as my birthday presents.

Gonna ring the ticket office at some point and ask them if there are any kids seat in the family stand upper going. If I can I want to transfer over there.
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Dameerto » Thu May 17, 2012 4:25 pm

Alternatively it's a way for someone to show a bit more (financial) support to the club, with the club acknowledging it with a few perks.
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Chinners » Thu May 17, 2012 4:42 pm

saulman wrote: The thought of buying loyalty points is just plain wrong, IMO.


Bang on ... and with all the new fans we will get some of them will be up with me and other in a few years ... wrong wrong wrong imo
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Mark Garrett » Fri May 18, 2012 12:00 am

When fans are looking at the season ticket price, just divide it by 19 league games and that will give you the cost of ticket per match. Across the ground for an adult therefore, it ranges between £27 and £40, which when you consider how much those at WHL, Anfield, Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge and the Emirates pay is fantastic pricing by City. Even more so when we are the Champions of England and Manchester.

Will definitely be renewing my season ticket.
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Blue_Manc » Fri May 18, 2012 12:52 am

How I wish I lived in Manchester. I would be more than willing to pay £500 to watch the champions of England every 2 weeks.
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Scatman » Fri May 18, 2012 8:06 am

Blue_Manc wrote:How I wish I lived in Manchester. I would be more than willing to pay £500 to watch the champions of England every 2 weeks.


You never know your luck, you may be able to support a title winning side a bit closer to home in the future.
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Goaters 103 » Fri May 18, 2012 8:12 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
MARKMAKAVELI wrote:I didn't see that mentioned on the list of benefits.

Cool, i'll probably do it then as I'll be signing up to all the cup schemes. Goodbye wages!!!


For me its a bit of something that makes you feel like you are getting something in return - when actually, you are not. I paid it last year as I didnt really look into it, but I won't be doing this year, it's just not worth it - essentially buying loyalty points.

I suppose it depends what you want the loyalty points for and where you stand now. If newer fans are thinking of paying the extra for the double loyalty points, consider this.

The top 5000 or so in loyalty points will have in excess of 6/7000 points, and therefore if you havent had an ST for decades, or never go to away games, you are never going to catch these people up. Thus, you will never be first in line for away tickets in the league.

The remainder who have had an ST at City for say the last 10 years, which I would say number well over 25,000 all have between 3500-5000, so again, you are not going to be catching those. Thus you will be a long way down the line for European aways, borderline whether you get a ticket for Wembley, and no chance of a European final.

It will take the best part of 10/15 years before you are even approaching the first tier of lngstanding ST holders, let alone those at the very top of the tree, whom you will never catch cos they will always attend more aways than you.

I fit at the top of that middle bracket on about 5000 points, safe enough for a Wembley seat, reasonable chance of away tickets and a european final seat, but not for the more in demand away games, and I will go to enough aways/cup games to keep those behind me at bay, so there is little point paying an extra £50.


Agree 100% John. Your position is same as mine - Im nearly up to 6000 points but with myself and 2 kids tkts to pay for, I wont be paying an extra £150 this season and will be doing Gold for all three this time.

Cost comparison is £685 for Gold or £835 for Platinum - simply put, taking 2 kids to a game makes Gold the only one I can afford!
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby lets all have a disco » Fri May 18, 2012 8:53 am

Ive snook my Platinum in under the radar as the baby isnt here yet i reckon the breadknife will have me on a gold soon enough.
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Nickyboy » Fri May 18, 2012 12:00 pm

gone with the zebra finance 10 month loan again and my direct debit payments are only £3 a month more for exactly the same ticket in south stand as last season.

A £30 rise when we are Champions is amazing IMO and the club should be commended for trying to remain affordable
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Im_Spartacus » Fri May 18, 2012 1:04 pm

Goaters 103 wrote:
Agree 100% John. Your position is same as mine - Im nearly up to 6000 points but with myself and 2 kids tkts to pay for, I wont be paying an extra £150 this season and will be doing Gold for all three this time.

Cost comparison is £685 for Gold or £835 for Platinum - simply put, taking 2 kids to a game makes Gold the only one I can afford!


On the flip side mate, i probably WOULD pay the extra for the kids.......could make all the difference if you want to sit with the kids at finals in the future.
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Goaters 103 » Fri May 18, 2012 1:09 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Goaters 103 wrote:
Agree 100% John. Your position is same as mine - Im nearly up to 6000 points but with myself and 2 kids tkts to pay for, I wont be paying an extra £150 this season and will be doing Gold for all three this time.

Cost comparison is £685 for Gold or £835 for Platinum - simply put, taking 2 kids to a game makes Gold the only one I can afford!


On the flip side mate, i probably WOULD pay the extra for the kids.......could make all the difference if you want to sit with the kids at finals in the future.


Am gonna have to hustle tkts for finals mate! (if we get there of course)
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Feed The Goat » Fri May 18, 2012 2:01 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
On the flip side mate, i probably WOULD pay the extra for the kids.......could make all the difference if you want to sit with the kids at finals in the future.


An adult ticket pulls a kids ticket through for aways regardless of the kids points
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Re: On the negative side........(ticket prices)

Postby Im_Spartacus » Fri May 18, 2012 2:08 pm

Feed The Goat wrote:
An adult ticket pulls a kids ticket through for aways regardless of the kids points


It didn't for wembley though, which was my point. There was 1500 tickets made available to allow kids to jump the queue, eg, approx 600 adults, 900 kids.

Not many really, and was done based on priority of the adults points. This is why its better to bump the kids points to not leave it down to a lottery, bearing in mind these arrangements are far from guaranteed for the next time we qualify for a final.
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