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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby Esky » Tue May 22, 2012 4:56 am

1) It's Milan
2) 50m for a 28 year old?
3) It's Milan

Not interested.
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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby Swales4ever » Tue May 22, 2012 7:44 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:People seem to forget completely whatkind of history Lescott has with knee injuries. Unfortunately those never fully go away. We can't put ourselves in situation where injury to one player would completely mess our season.

Also, there will be injuries, suspensions and loss of form as always. We will be challenging on four fronts. There could easily be over 60 games next season. Asking anyone but Hart maybe to start all of them would be stupid and irresponsible.

I'm not sure about Silva. He offers great movement and is fantastic on the ball but seems weak in the air. I'm not sure how he'd cope in league. Would be brilliant addition for CL though.


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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby PALUS » Tue May 22, 2012 8:09 am

we will have milion games next season and we wont to win it all we ned three amazing defender and this is the third one ....
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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 22, 2012 8:10 am

PALUS wrote:we will have milion games next season and we wont to win it all we ned three amazing defender and this is the third one ....


You mean like we need four strikers because there has to be squad rotation?
Sometimes we're good and sometimes we're bad but when we're good, at least we're much better than we used to be and when we are bad we're just as bad as we always used to be, so that's got to be good hasn't it?


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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby PALUS » Tue May 22, 2012 8:27 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
PALUS wrote:we will have milion games next season and we wont to win it all we ned three amazing defender and this is the third one ....


You mean like we need four strikers because there has to be squad rotation?

i dont wont to talk abaut Edin any more i was clear on that so fuck of with provocation, if you do not have to replace with nobody else then Savic then u cant play on three fronts and we have a million games.
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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby PeterParker » Tue May 22, 2012 8:42 am

The fucker is really good, alongside Vinnie and Vidic, he is the best defender out there. I somehow understand what Milan is trying to pull. We all can see that the italian football league, has some big financial problem, so they are trying to sell with big money.

Also, Thiago Silva (from what i've heard) was the main target for Barcelona, this summer, after Shakira took away Pique's legs.
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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby PALUS » Tue May 22, 2012 8:50 am

PeterParker wrote:The fucker is really good, alongside Vinnie and Vidic, he is the best defender out there. I somehow understand what Milan is trying to pull. We all can see that the italian football league, has some big financial problem, so they are trying to sell with big money.

Also, Thiago Silva (from what i've heard) was the main target for Barcelona, this summer, after Shakira took away Pique's legs.

I watch a lot of ACMilan games since he come i dont know how but AC Milan always find relly good defender and i agree hes full of pace strength stamina technicly good well Brazilian but only price will be probobly high
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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby Swales4ever » Tue May 22, 2012 9:26 am

PeterParker wrote:The fucker is really good, alongside Vinnie and Vidic, he is the best defender out there. I somehow understand what Milan is trying to pull. We all can see that the italian football league, has some big financial problem, so they are trying to sell with big money.

Also, Thiago Silva (from what i've heard) was the main target for Barcelona, this summer, after Shakira took away Pique's legs.


Mate, I think nobody's questioning his skill and great positioning sense and he will certainly work wonders alongside Vinnie, but NQDP is very much spot on when arguing his aerial strenght: not saying he is weak, but I wouldn't feel comfortable with him going at places like Stoke.
You might counter that we can use another option when facing that kind of opposition but can You cite me a tie in English football where the aerial strenght isn't a must?
Also You are spot on with AC Milan trying to win the lottery with a single sale, but I would never pay half of that demand for any CB of the world.
Last but not least, I stick with my personal view that, if City can acquire Javi Martinez, we will have a top class back-up for two roles, with the additional benefit of not throwing pressure on Joleon Lescott.

p.s.: if rumours are true, Bobby seems not to share my same opinion, tho... :-)

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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby PeterParker » Tue May 22, 2012 9:36 am

Mancio4ever wrote:
PeterParker wrote:The fucker is really good, alongside Vinnie and Vidic, he is the best defender out there. I somehow understand what Milan is trying to pull. We all can see that the italian football league, has some big financial problem, so they are trying to sell with big money.

Also, Thiago Silva (from what i've heard) was the main target for Barcelona, this summer, after Shakira took away Pique's legs.


Mate, I think nobody's questioning his skill and great positioning sense and he will certainly work wonders alongside Vinnie, but NQDP is very much spot on when arguing his aerial strenght: not saying he is weak, but I wouldn't feel comfortable with him going at places like Stoke.
You might counter that we can use another option when facing that kind of opposition but can You cite me a tie in English football where the aerial strenght isn't a must?
Also You are spot on with AC Milan trying to win the lottery with a single sale, but I would never pay half of that demand for any CB of the world.
Last but not least, I stick with my personal view that, if City can acquire Javi Martinez, we will have a top class back-up for two roles, with the additional benefit of not throwing pressure on Joleon Lescott.

p.s.: if rumours are true, Bobby seems not to share my same opinion, tho... :-)


As far as i know, Milan are paying over 12 milion to Ibra, Robinho and Pato. Pato has been shit since god knows when, so they really did a big mistake not allowing him to leave to PSG last winter, so now they are trying to reduce the salary wages to reconstruct the team.

I like Thiago, he is quality, but i wouldn't change for nothing in the world, the pair Lesco - Vinnie. Imho, those two, at the moment, are the best CD duo in the world, there is absolutelly no couple better than them. I am 100 % with you on "i can't trust him at Stoke or Everton", so i find somehow this transfer a bit odd. If the rumor is true, then Bobby wants to bring him to play with Vinnie, while Lesco will become the replacement for them, while Savic will pack his bags (i hope on a loan). I would rather use Lesco and Vinnie a couple of years more and bring someone who knows the premiership very well (Vermaleen, Heitinga, etc).
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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby Swales4ever » Tue May 22, 2012 9:52 am

I totally agree with You, PP, re VK + JL currently being the best and most reliable pair of the wiorld, I'd dare to say.

I still consider, and hope, that if is a big IF.... :-)

I can't provide any support re AC Milan financial expenditure on wages: I always considered what leaking through the media absolute and untrustworthy bullox. Certainly Ibra is on very big wages, tho.

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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue May 22, 2012 9:58 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:People seem to forget completely whatkind of history Lescott has with knee injuries. Unfortunately those never fully go away. We can't put ourselves in situation where injury to one player would completely mess our season.

Also, there will be injuries, suspensions and loss of form as always. We will be challenging on four fronts. There could easily be over 60 games next season. Asking anyone but Hart maybe to start all of them would be stupid and irresponsible.

I'm not sure about Silva. He offers great movement and is fantastic on the ball but seems weak in the air. I'm not sure how he'd cope in league. Would be brilliant addition for CL though.


There was a game this season, can't remember who against, when I was in the ground early & Lescott was doing his own set of special exercises (which I've seen before) and was clearly in discomfort but played anyway (not one of his better games). As you say, his injuries are ticking timebombs which must surely start to affect him more and more as he gets older.

Obviously they were scared to leave him out of that game because of what we have seen with his replacements. We have been lucky to keep him & Vinny together for so many games because it would have only taken one longish injury to either & our trophy would be at the swamp.

On the upside though, Micah was forced to play there briefly because of the shiteness of Savic & looked comfortable (I've always thought he's a CB anyway). I also thought Kolo improved as he got fitter but he's still a 4th rather than 3rd choice imo & may want to leave anyway. I hope he stays at least for next season.

A title & Chump's Lg challenging side should have more than two reliable, equal 1st choice CB's in the squad imo. Silva is not as good as Lescott in the air but he's not shit (no worse than Kolo) & anyway the answer would be to Play Lescott in the aerial games.

If Barca had that backup, the Spanish league may look a little different now.

Milan are swearing Silva goes nowhere though, so it may be we scratch him and move on to the next target. We may just end up with a replacement for Savic who sits on the bench.
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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby PALUS » Tue May 22, 2012 10:37 am

PeterParker wrote:
Mancio4ever wrote:
PeterParker wrote:The fucker is really good, alongside Vinnie and Vidic, he is the best defender out there. I somehow understand what Milan is trying to pull. We all can see that the italian football league, has some big financial problem, so they are trying to sell with big money.

Also, Thiago Silva (from what i've heard) was the main target for Barcelona, this summer, after Shakira took away Pique's legs.


Mate, I think nobody's questioning his skill and great positioning sense and he will certainly work wonders alongside Vinnie, but NQDP is very much spot on when arguing his aerial strenght: not saying he is weak, but I wouldn't feel comfortable with him going at places like Stoke.
You might counter that we can use another option when facing that kind of opposition but can You cite me a tie in English football where the aerial strenght isn't a must?
Also You are spot on with AC Milan trying to win the lottery with a single sale, but I would never pay half of that demand for any CB of the world.
Last but not least, I stick with my personal view that, if City can acquire Javi Martinez, we will have a top class back-up for two roles, with the additional benefit of not throwing pressure on Joleon Lescott.

p.s.: if rumours are true, Bobby seems not to share my same opinion, tho... :-)


As far as i know, Milan are paying over 12 milion to Ibra, Robinho and Pato. Pato has been shit since god knows when, so they really did a big mistake not allowing him to leave to PSG last winter, so now they are trying to reduce the salary wages to reconstruct the team.

I like Thiago, he is quality, but i wouldn't change for nothing in the world, the pair Lesco - Vinnie. Imho, those two, at the moment, are the best CD duo in the world, there is absolutelly no couple better than them. I am 100 % with you on "i can't trust him at Stoke or Everton", so i find somehow this transfer a bit odd. If the rumor is true, then Bobby wants to bring him to play with Vinnie, while Lesco will become the replacement for them, while Savic will pack his bags (i hope on a loan). I would rather use Lesco and Vinnie a couple of years more and bring someone who knows the premiership very well (Vermaleen, Heitinga, etc).


Basically it is certainly better to have that three then Savic hoewer ends up on the bench and i know if Bob knows somthing is to make strong defence so i trust hes judgment there, I do not follow how much u watch Italy Tiago is good jump in the game, now is not comparable to the English game where the strongest jump play in Europe but I know that hes clean plenty of crosses in AC games from the games i watch and i saw plenty matches of AC last two season and yes they rebilding the team witch will play next 10 years that is how AC do past 30 years make team and dont change anything, generally is better to have a Thiago then Savic Bob will probably see who is better suited to play.i think also Vinny and Lescoot are at the to of defence but to have qulity third player is greath stuff
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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Tue May 22, 2012 11:01 am

gillie wrote:
CityGer wrote:Decent defender but vastly over priced and Milan will no doubt be a bunch of cunts to deal with.

Subotic for me. Already a top defender and four years younger than Silva at 24.

Whatever happens we do need a top class centre half. Kolo will be off, Savic needs to be loaned out and we can't afford to leave ourselves as exposed as we were last Jan/Feb.

Subotic for me as well mate.


You two gentlemen are both talking my language, as I've been a big fan of Subotic for ages and if we get anyone new into the squad, they've now got to be of the utmost quality, as well as being of an age where they can play for City for many years to come - and I think Subotic measures up to these criteria.

It doesn't mean to say that Lescott's days would be numbered as Bob may be considering playing with three centre backs, possibly even in something like a 3-4-3 formation (who knows if Bob, Platt and Kidd are out around town on a Saturday night, consuming a load of red wine as they eat their pizzas, by using all the glasses, cutlery and condiments at the restaurant table, they might even concoct a 3-3-4 set-up, which would be very attacking ??)
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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby Renato_CTID » Tue May 22, 2012 11:10 am

Fantastic player who could play just in front of Vinnie and Joleon! But I think Thiago wouldn't leave AC the same! Our beloved Sheikh was very angry with their ad Galliani when he tried to sign Tevez on loan without permissions of our board. And now Mancio's mission to Via Turati in Milan is his own revenge. Thiago shall pretend now a strong increase of his bargains to stay in Milan, that's for sure!
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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby Yffi_88 » Tue May 22, 2012 11:49 am

Haven't seen this posted on here... Personally im very suspicious about the numbers/trades they're mentioning.

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Manchester City manager Roberto Mancini held talks in Milan on Monday over a deal for £40 million-rated defender Thiago Silva which could see Carlos Tevez moving to the San Siro.

Mancini met Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani at the Italian club’s headquarters and made an enquiry for Thiago Silva, despite insisting that he was simply catching up with old friends.

Contrary to reports in Italy, the City boss is understood to have suggested Tevez - rather than Mario Balotelli - as a potential makeweight in a swoop for the highly rated Brazilian centre-back.

Milan have also shown an interest in signing Emmanuel Adebayor but are believed to have told Mancini they want a straight cash deal for Thiago Silva, who they value at £40m. Galliani reportedly added that the Rossoneri have already rejected a £32m bid from Spanish giants Barcelona.

Mancini has been linked with a move for Milan striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic but Thiago Silva is the player he wants to lure to the Etihad Stadium. The 27-year-old is considered one of the best defenders in the world and is considered by Mancini as an ideal partner for City captain Vincent Kompany.

City’s chances of landing the player are helped by Milan’s need to raise funds and they could be ready to cash in on their most valuable asset. The Italian team’s coach, Massimiliano Allegri, wanted to make the 27-year-old his new captain but that scenario has been changed by his potential departure.

While City will consider a straight cash deal, they would prefer to offer a striker in part-exchange to land the former Fluminese man.

Tevez would be the obvious candidate having been a target for Milan in the January transfer window before the move collapsed.

The 28-year-old, who earns a basic salary of £198,000 per week and would be valued at around £25 million, recently said that he wants to stay at City after being brought back into the fold towards the end of the season following a six-month exile.

Mancini had previously indicated that Tevez was “finished” at City and is ready to offload on the striker as he looks to build a squad capable of retaining the Premier League title and challenging for Champions League glory next season.

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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby chips » Tue May 22, 2012 12:39 pm

We don't need him. We have savic :)
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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue May 22, 2012 4:55 pm

That little shit invited Mancini just so he could create rumours:

Mancini:“I went to the Milan offices yesterday purely for a courtesy call. Besides which, it was Galliani who called and asked me to do so,” Mancini told news agency ANSA.

“Therefore, there are no transfer moves in the pipeline. I was in Milan for personal reasons and Galliani asked to meet up.

“I was there for 10 minutes and I certainly did not make a proposal for Thiago Silva, nor did I offer Mario Balotelli or Carlos Tevez to Milan.”

Just tell that frog faced little cunt and his slimey, corrupt, bullshitting, lowlife club to fucking do one.

We don't want to buy anyone from them, we don't want to sell anyone to them JUST FUCK OFF, YOU HORRIBLE SLIMEY BUNCH OF FUCKING DOUBLE DEALING WANKERS.
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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby Beeks » Tue May 22, 2012 4:59 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:That little shit invited Mancini just so he could create rumours:

Mancini:“I went to the Milan offices yesterday purely for a courtesy call. Besides which, it was Galliani who called and asked me to do so,” Mancini told news agency ANSA.

“Therefore, there are no transfer moves in the pipeline. I was in Milan for personal reasons and Galliani asked to meet up.

“I was there for 10 minutes and I certainly did not make a proposal for Thiago Silva, nor did I offer Mario Balotelli or Carlos Tevez to Milan.”

Just tell that frog faced little cunt and his slimey, corrupt, bullshitting, lowlife club to fucking do one.

We don't want to buy anyone from them, we don't want to sell anyone to them JUST FUCK OFF, YOU HORRIBLE SLIMEY BUNCH OF FUCKING DOUBLE DEALING WANKERS.


Hahaha brilliant..Bob as usual wading through the bullshit and telling it how it is

Still disappointed we are not in for Silva but worth it for that statement alone
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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby Renato_CTID » Tue May 22, 2012 5:06 pm

Poor my AC Milan! They still have no money for signing new players and Uncle Fester Galliani is unable to tell to Rossoneri fans it would be impossible to win anything important in the next 2 or 3 years!
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Re: Thiago Silva

Postby Esky » Wed May 23, 2012 7:38 am

I think we should be in for Vertonghen. Worst case scenario, us bidding means that Spurs/Arsenal would have to pay more for him.
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