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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Wed May 23, 2012 11:13 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Couple of fucking stupid answers with no suggestions. Come on then, put your head out and give suggestions. Going into season of about 60 games with three strikers would be idiotic.

Going into a season with Torres as one of our strikers would be idiotic.
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed May 23, 2012 11:14 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Couple of fucking stupid answers with no suggestions. Come on then, put your head out and give suggestions. Going into season of about 60 games with three strikers would be idiotic.


I would imagine we will keep the strikers we have now unless we get RVP or Cavani.

Also, if we do get Hazard, his goalscoring record is that of a striker with 20 goals in the league.
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Scatman » Wed May 23, 2012 11:17 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
This comes from assumption that Tevez is off. It might seem that all is happy now but Mancini doesn't strike me as someone who will ever forgive or forget being fucked over in such crucial situation. I think Tevez only got his chance because no one was interested and both sides realised that he needs to be put in the shop window. I would NOT be stupid enough to trust Tevez in the future and neither should (or will) be Mancini.

This whole topic proves how short memories football supporters often have. In other topics people are creaming over van Persie and here Torres is bag of wank. It might be the case if you just look at this past season but people also seem to forget that this was the first season EVER van Persie managed over 28 league games. Feller is perennial sick note.


I don't want RVP either.

I don't see how Tevez being an arse is a bigger risk than RVP falling to bits or Torres continuing to be a useless mopey soft cunt tho.


Yeah, rather have some guy golfing 98% of the season. That's much better.


Straight swap Torres for Tevez? Would you?
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Wed May 23, 2012 11:21 am

Scatman wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
This comes from assumption that Tevez is off. It might seem that all is happy now but Mancini doesn't strike me as someone who will ever forgive or forget being fucked over in such crucial situation. I think Tevez only got his chance because no one was interested and both sides realised that he needs to be put in the shop window. I would NOT be stupid enough to trust Tevez in the future and neither should (or will) be Mancini.

This whole topic proves how short memories football supporters often have. In other topics people are creaming over van Persie and here Torres is bag of wank. It might be the case if you just look at this past season but people also seem to forget that this was the first season EVER van Persie managed over 28 league games. Feller is perennial sick note.


I don't want RVP either.

I don't see how Tevez being an arse is a bigger risk than RVP falling to bits or Torres continuing to be a useless mopey soft cunt tho.


Yeah, rather have some guy golfing 98% of the season. That's much better.


Straight swap Torres for Tevez? Would you?

Tevez was still more influential in the PL this season than Torres.
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed May 23, 2012 11:24 am

Scatman wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
This comes from assumption that Tevez is off. It might seem that all is happy now but Mancini doesn't strike me as someone who will ever forgive or forget being fucked over in such crucial situation. I think Tevez only got his chance because no one was interested and both sides realised that he needs to be put in the shop window. I would NOT be stupid enough to trust Tevez in the future and neither should (or will) be Mancini.

This whole topic proves how short memories football supporters often have. In other topics people are creaming over van Persie and here Torres is bag of wank. It might be the case if you just look at this past season but people also seem to forget that this was the first season EVER van Persie managed over 28 league games. Feller is perennial sick note.


I don't want RVP either.

I don't see how Tevez being an arse is a bigger risk than RVP falling to bits or Torres continuing to be a useless mopey soft cunt tho.


Yeah, rather have some guy golfing 98% of the season. That's much better.


Straight swap Torres for Tevez? Would you?


Absolutely not.
Tevez is a lethal player and I wouldn't sell him to rival. But if Mancini decides to fuck him off, we need replacement.
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed May 23, 2012 11:27 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Couple of fucking stupid answers with no suggestions. Come on then, put your head out and give suggestions. Going into season of about 60 games with three strikers would be idiotic.


I would imagine we will keep the strikers we have now unless we get RVP or Cavani.

Also, if we do get Hazard, his goalscoring record is that of a striker with 20 goals in the league.


First reasonable answer.
I work under assumption that we sell Tevez. If we keep him, I don't think we need to add to strike force at all. RvP is a sicknote but might be worth the risk. I don't like Cavani. As good as he has been for Napoli, I think he'd struggle with pace of game in England + I don't think he suits our style that well.
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Scatman » Wed May 23, 2012 11:37 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Scatman wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
This comes from assumption that Tevez is off. It might seem that all is happy now but Mancini doesn't strike me as someone who will ever forgive or forget being fucked over in such crucial situation. I think Tevez only got his chance because no one was interested and both sides realised that he needs to be put in the shop window. I would NOT be stupid enough to trust Tevez in the future and neither should (or will) be Mancini.

This whole topic proves how short memories football supporters often have. In other topics people are creaming over van Persie and here Torres is bag of wank. It might be the case if you just look at this past season but people also seem to forget that this was the first season EVER van Persie managed over 28 league games. Feller is perennial sick note.


I don't want RVP either.

I don't see how Tevez being an arse is a bigger risk than RVP falling to bits or Torres continuing to be a useless mopey soft cunt tho.


Yeah, rather have some guy golfing 98% of the season. That's much better.


Straight swap Torres for Tevez? Would you?


Absolutely not.
Tevez is a lethal player and I wouldn't sell him to rival. But if Mancini decides to fuck him off, we need replacement.


Should Chelsea, therefore, not have the same opinion of Torres?
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Yffi_88 » Wed May 23, 2012 11:49 am

Doesnt matter anyway now! surely Bob will see sense and make the right move...

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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed May 23, 2012 12:08 pm

Scatman wrote: Should Chelsea, therefore, not have the same opinion of Torres?


I don't quite follow you. The original story was about Torres being unhappy and hinting that he might want to leave. Did anyone actually WANY Tevez to leave? Yet he has been pimped around like 10 quid crackwhore for past two transfer windows. Why is that? Is it because he is a bad player?
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Scatman » Wed May 23, 2012 12:19 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Scatman wrote: Should Chelsea, therefore, not have the same opinion of Torres?


I don't quite follow you. The original story was about Torres being unhappy and hinting that he might want to leave. Did anyone actually WANY Tevez to leave? Yet he has been pimped around like 10 quid crackwhore for past two transfer windows. Why is that? Is it because he is a bad player?


The Tevez subject was brought up and comparisons were made. Would keeping Tevez (who may or may not decide to do one) be a bigger gamble than getting Torres (who may or may not be shit these days) or RVP (who may or may not be injured a lot next year). Torres is a lethal player as well. Chelsea wouldn't let him go to a rival, the same as we wouldn't let Tevez. It's a pointless pursuit as it won't happen. The only place Torres would go is abroad.
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Wed May 23, 2012 12:30 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
First reasonable answer.
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby john68 » Wed May 23, 2012 1:16 pm

Aunty. (that's how we spell it in England...:-)

You make a good argument \mate, but you and some others aren't looking beyond his feet. His potential to score and to make a difference in our attack...But what of his head?

He has shown himself to be psychologically vulnerable. Sulky, moody and far too sensitive. Not happy about this, not happy about that, wanting this, wanting that. His attitude has all been about him and not Chelsea.

City didn't win the League because we were the best team, we didn't win it because we had the best players. When it came down to it, as those last few minutes ticked away...we won the League because of cussedness. WE REFUSED TO LOSE. It came down to grim grit and determination...We won it in those last few minutes because we had bollocks that were fuclin huge.

Torres was wonderful when all was well and he was riding the wave at Anfield but as soon as the wave broke at Chelsea, he suffered badly. With our resources, in our position, why would we need to take any risks?
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Avalon » Wed May 23, 2012 1:19 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Couple of fucking stupid answers with no suggestions. Come on then, put your head out and give suggestions. Going into season of about 60 games with three strikers would be idiotic.


I would imagine we will keep the strikers we have now unless we get RVP or Cavani.

Also, if we do get Hazard, his goalscoring record is that of a striker with 20 goals in the league.


First reasonable answer.
I work under assumption that we sell Tevez. If we keep him, I don't think we need to add to strike force at all. RvP is a sicknote but might be worth the risk. I don't like Cavani. As good as he has been for Napoli, I think he'd struggle with pace of game in England + I don't think he suits our style that well.


Falcao, or Cavani. I wouldn't go for RVP, simply because Arsenal will ask for ridiculous money for a player with one year left on his contract.
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed May 23, 2012 1:54 pm

Avalon wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Couple of fucking stupid answers with no suggestions. Come on then, put your head out and give suggestions. Going into season of about 60 games with three strikers would be idiotic.


I would imagine we will keep the strikers we have now unless we get RVP or Cavani.

Also, if we do get Hazard, his goalscoring record is that of a striker with 20 goals in the league.


First reasonable answer.
I work under assumption that we sell Tevez. If we keep him, I don't think we need to add to strike force at all. RvP is a sicknote but might be worth the risk. I don't like Cavani. As good as he has been for Napoli, I think he'd struggle with pace of game in England + I don't think he suits our style that well.


Falcao, or Cavani. I wouldn't go for RVP, simply because Arsenal will ask for ridiculous money for a player with one year left on his contract.


Falcao is a good shout but would Atletico sell after just one year? I mean he was replacement for Aguero and they'd be looking tens of millions.
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Avalon » Wed May 23, 2012 2:03 pm

That would indeed be a stumbling block, considering the reported fee Atletico paid to sign him in the first place. He's still a player I'd love to have at City though. As you said, the fact that he's been there only a year and taking into considering what they paid for him could make a move for him impossible at this stage. Still, theoretically speaking, if Tevez were to leave, he'd be a player I'd replace him with.
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Blue Since 76 » Wed May 23, 2012 2:15 pm

Avalon wrote:That would indeed be a stumbling block, considering the reported fee Atletico paid to sign him in the first place. He's still a player I'd love to have at City though. As you said, the fact that he's been there only a year and taking into considering what they paid for him could make a move for him impossible at this stage. Still, theoretically speaking, if Tevez were to leave, he'd be a player I'd replace him with.


I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Torres heading back to Athletico with a suitcase with about £30m and a one way ticket to London for a Mr Falcao.

Chelsea can say they paid about £60m for him and Madrid can claim they got £80m, depending on how you value Torres. Torres goes back to a club where he was previously successful and may be able to settle down again. Everyone's happy.

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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Wed May 23, 2012 2:20 pm

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
First reasonable answer.
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Some?
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby 1950 » Wed May 23, 2012 2:29 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Falcao is a good shout but would Atletico sell after just one year? I mean he was replacement for Aguero and they'd be looking tens of millions.


There were reports floating about that they couldn't afford to pay the second installment of the fee, as afaik Atletico have huge debts & then winning the Europa triggered a clause for an extra 6m or so. £40m or thereabouts for one single player is a fookin enormous sum to a club not playing in the Champions League. Cashing in now & turning a profit could be the smart move in their situation.

Either way, he won't be cheap, wherever he may end up.
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed May 23, 2012 2:55 pm

john68 wrote:Aunty. (that's how we spell it in England...:-)

You make a good argument \mate, but you and some others aren't looking beyond his feet. His potential to score and to make a difference in our attack...But what of his head?

He has shown himself to be psychologically vulnerable. Sulky, moody and far too sensitive. Not happy about this, not happy about that, wanting this, wanting that. His attitude has all been about him and not Chelsea.


City didn't win the League because we were the best team, we didn't win it because we had the best players. When it came down to it, as those last few minutes ticked away...we won the League because of cussedness. WE REFUSED TO LOSE. It came down to grim grit and determination...We won it in those last few minutes because we had bollocks that were fuclin huge.

Torres was wonderful when all was well and he was riding the wave at Anfield but as soon as the wave broke at Chelsea, he suffered badly. With our resources, in our position, why would we need to take any risks?


Swap Chelsea with City and you just described Tevez.
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Re: Torres Unhappy

Postby john68 » Wed May 23, 2012 3:03 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
john68 wrote:Aunty. (that's how we spell it in England...:-)

You make a good argument \mate, but you and some others aren't looking beyond his feet. His potential to score and to make a difference in our attack...But what of his head?

He has shown himself to be psychologically vulnerable. Sulky, moody and far too sensitive. Not happy about this, not happy about that, wanting this, wanting that. His attitude has all been about him and not Chelsea.


City didn't win the League because we were the best team, we didn't win it because we had the best players. When it came down to it, as those last few minutes ticked away...we won the League because of cussedness. WE REFUSED TO LOSE. It came down to grim grit and determination...We won it in those last few minutes because we had bollocks that were fuclin huge.

Torres was wonderful when all was well and he was riding the wave at Anfield but as soon as the wave broke at Chelsea, he suffered badly. With our resources, in our position, why would we need to take any risks?


Swap Chelsea with City and you just described Tevez.


Only almost described Tevez Mate.
Off the pitch, you are 100% correct. On the pitch, Tevez gives 100%. If I could find a player of Tevez's skill and ability who wasn't a sensitive cretin off the pitch, I would happily replace him.
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