littlebig wrote:Britain deserves credit for it's actions on hooliganism and racism in football, and this feeds into society. However huge resources have been devoted to the effort.
Some countries have bigger fish to fry
BlueinBosnia wrote:Sorry if this sounds incredibly naive, but isn't Katowice a bottleneck of football violence, and considered one of the worst stadiums in Europe to visit, because the stadium is used by a lot of teams with hooligan firms and has such easy connections to poor/extreme right suburbs from most of the southern and western cities?
Ted Hughes wrote:littlebig wrote:Britain deserves credit for it's actions on hooliganism and racism in football, and this feeds into society. However huge resources have been devoted to the effort.
Some countries have bigger fish to fry
Should those countries be rewarded with international tournaments ?
one man army wrote:Beeks wrote:one man army wrote:apparently there is no problem with racism in uk, italy, france... makes me laugh, sorry boys.
In football in the UK I'd say it's been virtually stamped out barring the smallest of minorities..struggling to remember the last time I've heard it at a game
ok, let me try this way - how many of you went to poznan for europa league game last year? how many of you were victims of racial abuse or xenophobia? haven't seen crying on this forum. suddenly poland (not talking about ukraine, never been there) are racists.
or maybe it just has something to do with olympics? obvoiusly if you travel to watch euro, you may find yourself short of cash to spend during the games?
but yeah, i agree - do not travel there - white bears walk on the streets and you will get stabbed just when you come outside any polish airport :))))
and london is such a peaceful place, isnt it?
one man army wrote:only within football? so are you trying to say that football racists and antisemitists are only seen at grounds? no mate, when they leave 'em they don't suddenly transform into friendly law abiding citizens. but these idiots are minority. vocal, but still minority.
the same in England - just because racism is officialy tackled in football, it doesn't mean is non-existent.
also are you really sure all England fans traveling to watch euros are polite, nice middle-class gentlemen? strangely i am quite confident you will see some HeadHunters, Combat18 or Inter City Firm among many, and they are hardly angels.
Panorama exaggerates problem (yeah, i've been to my ground many times and look... i'm still alive!).
the problem still exist, i'm not denying it but when i listen to sol campbell's slurs about coming back in coffins, my only reaction is laughter.
you may disagree but it's my opinion.
p.s. i'm still speaking about poland exclusively. ukraine is different matter and i think there will be problems with racists and nationalists.
one man army wrote:only within football? so are you trying to say that football racists and antisemitists are only seen at grounds? no mate, when they leave 'em they don't suddenly transform into friendly law abiding citizens. but these idiots are minority. vocal, but still minority.
the same in England - just because racism is officialy tackled in football, it doesn't mean is non-existent.
also are you really sure all England fans traveling to watch euros are polite, nice middle-class gentlemen? strangely i am quite confident you will see some HeadHunters, Combat18 or Inter City Firm among many, and they are hardly angels.
Panorama exaggerates problem (yeah, i've been to my ground many times and look... i'm still alive!).
the problem still exist, i'm not denying it but when i listen to sol campbell's slurs about coming back in coffins, my only reaction is laughter.
you may disagree but it's my opinion.
p.s. i'm still speaking about poland exclusively. ukraine is different matter and i think there will be problems with racists and nationalists.
Dazzacity wrote:So we see a few gangs of lads doin Nazi salutes and suddenly every Pole and Ukrainian is a racist. I think there will be trouble at the Euros and lets face it, with our history, England fans will prob be at the centre of it all. I dont think the Police will be able to handle it.
Did we hear racist chants when we played Kiev and Poznan?? I dont recall any.
CityGer wrote:Dazzacity wrote:So we see a few gangs of lads doin Nazi salutes and suddenly every Pole and Ukrainian is a racist. I think there will be trouble at the Euros and lets face it, with our history, England fans will prob be at the centre of it all. I dont think the Police will be able to handle it.
Did we hear racist chants when we played Kiev and Poznan?? I dont recall any.
Who said that?
Did you watch the programme?
Surrey Sky Blue wrote:Quick Question for One Man Army...... What the hell is going on in your Avatar??................................................. :-(
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