What's wrong with David Silva

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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby sheblue » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:27 pm

Of course he is tired, he was tired BEFORE the euros even started, I really doubt if many of the other Spanish players had to put in a season like silva had to last season.
No doubt la liga is no way as physically demanding.
What has messi got to do with it I can't remember him playing much at the euros.........
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:34 pm

The Premier League is physically more demanding than others, by a long long way. Silva is struggling to maintain his standrds week in week out both for City & Spain & it's obvious that is the case. We need backup for him but backup for Silva means signing one of the best players in the world & that's both difficult & expensive. This is the reason I was gutted when we didn't sign Hazard. If we'd signed him, I think we'd be on maximum points now & may just have beaten Real Madrid.

We have to find a player of that type & quality to complete the squad, otherwise we have a weakness in that area.

In the meantime, I don't understand why Bob feels he has to start Silva in any games at all. Start with Yaya In Silva's position & put 3 solid players behind him + 2 strikers in front of him v the better teams ( Imo, we would have hammered Arsenal & Liverpool with that set up) & play Tevez+Yaya + 2 strikers against the bus parkers. With the right organisation, those players can give any team on the planet a game. We really should be able to beat most teams without relying on Silva.
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby Chinners » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:46 pm

This tiredness bollox really narks me at times. Players should train less then to save energy if this is the excuse offered up when playing below standard in 180minutes of 'work' a week
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby london blue 2 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:46 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:The Premier League is physically more demanding than others, by a long long way. Silva is struggling to maintain his standrds week in week out both for City & Spain & it's obvious that is the case. We need backup for him but backup for Silva means signing one of the best players in the world & that's both difficult & expensive. This is the reason I was gutted when we didn't sign Hazard. If we'd signed him, I think we'd be on maximum points now & may just have beaten Real Madrid.

We have to find a player of that type & quality to complete the squad, otherwise we have a weakness in that area.

In the meantime, I don't understand why Bob feels he has to start Silva in any games at all. Start with Yaya In Silva's position & put 3 solid players behind him + 2 strikers in front of him v the better teams ( Imo, we would have hammered Arsenal & Liverpool with that set up) & play Tevez+Yaya + 2 strikers against the bus parkers. With the right organisation, those players can give any team on the planet a game. We really should be able to beat most teams without relying on Silva.

Spot on. Another example of Bobs stubborness. He fears Silva might burn out - then fucking rest him for a week or two.
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:05 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:The Premier League is physically more demanding than others, by a long long way. Silva is struggling to maintain his standrds week in week out both for City & Spain & it's obvious that is the case. We need backup for him but backup for Silva means signing one of the best players in the world & that's both difficult & expensive. This is the reason I was gutted when we didn't sign Hazard. If we'd signed him, I think we'd be on maximum points now & may just have beaten Real Madrid.

We have to find a player of that type & quality to complete the squad, otherwise we have a weakness in that area.

In the meantime, I don't understand why Bob feels he has to start Silva in any games at all. Start with Yaya In Silva's position & put 3 solid players behind him + 2 strikers in front of him v the better teams ( Imo, we would have hammered Arsenal & Liverpool with that set up) & play Tevez+Yaya + 2 strikers against the bus parkers. With the right organisation, those players can give any team on the planet a game. We really should be able to beat most teams without relying on Silva.


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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby Sideshow Bob » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:29 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:This is the reason I was gutted when we didn't sign Hazard. If we'd signed him, I think we'd be on maximum points now & may just have beaten Real Madrid.



as a player, hazard is exactly what we need. as a person, he is exactly what we don't want. his repeated comments about why he selected chelski, nearly signed for spuds, etc. show him to be a capricious, arrogant twat.
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby Green & Blue » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:38 pm

He looked far from tired to me against Arsenal.His work rate was spot on he worked really hard off the ball aswell as on the ball.

The only problem i can see is his passing range seems to have deserted him thus far this season.At times last season he could split defences at will with precison perfect passes.He is having no problem getting himself on the ball but when he trys the killer pass it's just not happening for him.Time and again he is passing to the opposition conceding possesion and it's causing us problems.
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby Tokyo Blue » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:45 pm

Green & Blue wrote:He looked far from tired to me against Arsenal.His work rate was spot on he worked really hard off the ball aswell as on the ball.

The only problem i can see is his passing range seems to have deserted him thus far this season.At times last season he could split defences at will with precison perfect passes.He is having no problem getting himself on the ball but when he trys the killer pass it's just not happening for him.Time and again he is passing to the opposition conceding possesion and it's causing us problems.

He hasn't had the passing options that he had last year cos the strikers/midfielders have been less than perfect in their movement off the ball or injured. And, like it or not, we did miss Nasri in this respect at weekend; he also takes some of the onus away from Dave.
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby london blue 2 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:53 pm

Tokyo Blue wrote:
Green & Blue wrote:He looked far from tired to me against Arsenal.His work rate was spot on he worked really hard off the ball aswell as on the ball.

The only problem i can see is his passing range seems to have deserted him thus far this season.At times last season he could split defences at will with precison perfect passes.He is having no problem getting himself on the ball but when he trys the killer pass it's just not happening for him.Time and again he is passing to the opposition conceding possesion and it's causing us problems.

He hasn't had the passing options that he had last year cos the strikers/midfielders have been less than perfect in their movement off the ball or injured. And, like it or not, we did miss Nasri in this respect at weekend; he also takes some of the onus away from Dave.

I think a lot of it has to do with the point raised in the other thread, I don't see us maintaining any lengthly period of possession. Everrything is rushed, last year Dave would keep the ball until an opening was made. This year he's trying to force the opening resulting in us losing possession.
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby PeterParker » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:04 pm

I think Dave still has that injury that had the second part of last season. If you remember, from march he was very mediocre and i think this summer he didn't had enough time to solve it.

I refuse to believe he has turn to shit. The last games he was used in his favorite position, so that could be a start.
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:15 pm

london blue 2 wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:
Green & Blue wrote:He looked far from tired to me against Arsenal.His work rate was spot on he worked really hard off the ball aswell as on the ball.

The only problem i can see is his passing range seems to have deserted him thus far this season.At times last season he could split defences at will with precison perfect passes.He is having no problem getting himself on the ball but when he trys the killer pass it's just not happening for him.Time and again he is passing to the opposition conceding possesion and it's causing us problems.

He hasn't had the passing options that he had last year cos the strikers/midfielders have been less than perfect in their movement off the ball or injured. And, like it or not, we did miss Nasri in this respect at weekend; he also takes some of the onus away from Dave.

I think a lot of it has to do with the point raised in the other thread, I don't see us maintaining any lengthly period of possession. Everrything is rushed, last year Dave would keep the ball until an opening was made. This year he's trying to force the opening resulting in us losing possession.


This is true but tiredness is as much in the mind as the body, probably more so. He still works physically hard off the ball but his decision making isn't there & his inspiration to find a brilliant pass isn't what it was at this stage last season.
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:07 pm

Tiredeness and a lack of full break has the new Barca coach expecting his team to be at full tilt by November, Maybe David is suffering the same.
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby simplytolmie » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:22 pm

When he was playing well we had 3 up top Aguero to the left Dzeko through the middle and him on the right but drifting. He has looked unfit since January and I think we should have given him a longer break. I'd happily sit him on the bench for the next 4 and only use him if we are desperate. Also pull him out of the odd Spain friendly like the scum do with all their players.
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby dbinod » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:56 am

has anyone thought silva plays good with micah richards.richards usually make runs for silva.atleast he takes a defender away so he can pass shoot or give to micah himself.may be when micah comes his form will improve as well
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:20 am

dbinod wrote:has anyone thought silva plays good with micah richards.richards usually make runs for silva.atleast he takes a defender away so he can pass shoot or give to micah himself.may be when micah comes his form will improve as well


Sometimes with Milner too but there's more to it than that. He's not at his best & Bob knows it.
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby Mike J » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:41 am

Form is temporary, class is permanent. He'll be back soon, i have no doubt.
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby dazby » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:56 am

And when he does we'll start flogging teams again and those on here moaning about our current form will go off in the other direction and say that we will finish the league season undefeated.
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:06 am

dazby wrote:And when he does we'll start flogging teams again and those on here moaning about our current form will go off in the other direction and say that we will finish the league season undefeated.


Haha what numpty would say that?
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby dazby » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:09 am

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
dazby wrote:And when he does we'll start flogging teams again and those on here moaning about our current form will go off in the other direction and say that we will finish the league season undefeated.


Haha what numpty would say that?


It's a feeling in my waters Lee. We'll get off to a slow start and this will continue for the next month. In November we will find a bit and by Christmas be an unstoppable juggernaut.
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Re: What's wrong with David Silva

Postby AG7 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:34 am

I have said this before in some thread and I say it again, whoever has signed a long term contract with us has gone absolute shit this season ... Kompany, Silva, Mancini ...

I hope they are not getting too comfortable in the back of their minds somewhere ... won the FA cup, won the League ... this year should target winning both together but that kind of hunger is just not on display yet from anyone in the team.
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