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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Green & Blue » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:33 pm

mcfc1632 wrote:Not until Mancini gives up on him.

He is going to be a top player in the next few years - I just hope he makes it with us in time for us to be wishing to offer a new contract - otherwise it will be elsewhere


Same for me.

He will be top notch we need to be patient.He can frustrate the hell out of me i wish he had a better attitude but the ability he has is obvious.He just needs to get his head in the right place and develop some level of consistency in his performances.At the moment we just see the occasional flashes of brilliance.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:52 pm

The truth is that we have 4 possible World Class/excellent strikers, that alone causes problems. Can anybody remember a few years back when many people, including managers, were saying that you cannot have 4 top strikers as they can't all get games?

Well, we're in that situation now and it's very hard for a striker to play consistently without being a regular player.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Lev Bronstein » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:00 pm

Just caught an exchange on ESPN.

"Why is Balotelli so good for Italy and so inconsistent for Man City?"

"Perhaps because Italy play him in his best position as a central striker"

Hmmm
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby ant london » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:11 pm

I would never sell Mario....he should be kept at the Etihad until he retires.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Alex Sapphire » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:12 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:The truth is that we have 4 possible World Class/excellent strikers, that alone causes problems. Can anybody remember a few years back when many people, including managers, were saying that you cannot have 4 top strikers as they can't all get games?

Well, we're in that situation now and it's very hard for a striker to play consistently without being a regular player.


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he is currently the "best worst" (4th) striker any club could wish for and, given time and games he cpould develop into the best.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:54 pm

One of the biggest myths at City.
Produces very very little in reality, and is far more trouble than he is worth.
Any offer over 10 million sniffs and I'd take it.
Over rated toss pot.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Mase » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:26 pm

Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:One of the biggest myths at City.
Produces very very little in reality, and is far more trouble than he is worth.
Any offer over 10 million sniffs and I'd take it.
Over rated toss pot.


I think judging by this thread mate most City fans don't think he's good and are happy to get rid. The press slaughter him as playing shit every time he plays.

So where's the myth?
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby simplytolmie » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:18 pm

Absolutely would sell him. While he has undoubted talent he can't fit within a team structure nor can he be relied upon.

Good news is that the Italians would queue up for him.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:14 pm

Lev Bronstein wrote:Just caught an exchange on ESPN.

"Why is Balotelli so good for Italy and so inconsistent for Man City?"

"Perhaps because Italy play him in his best position as a central striker"

Hmmm

I'd like to think that we all understand that statement.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:01 am

Beefymcfc wrote:
Lev Bronstein wrote:Just caught an exchange on ESPN.

"Why is Balotelli so good for Italy and so inconsistent for Man City?"

"Perhaps because Italy play him in his best position as a central striker"

Hmmm

I'd like to think that we all understand that statement.



It's a valid point, but my thinkingis that if you want the shirt you must earn it. For Tevez or Aguero to me moved aside he has to produce more than them.

Clearly he won't out work them, so he has to out score them or play some wicked link up play every time and he doesn't.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:17 am

Mase wrote:
I think judging by this thread mate most City fans don't think he's good and are happy to get rid. The press slaughter him as playing shit every time he plays.

So where's the myth?


The myth is perpetuated by all those who see world domination in Mario.

He has never shown this potential as far as im concerned, he had a good game in the FA Cup final, which stood out more for the fact that he is usually so frustratingly shit. Mario gets a very easy ride from our fans, too many people willing to defend him on the basis that he might be a decent player in a few years time.

Had united spent 25m on a prospect who was still as erratic as balo at age 22 we would be taking the fucking piss out of them somat rotten.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby RodneyRodney » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:07 am

See how things go between now & Jan window
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby kinkylola » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:29 am

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Lev Bronstein wrote:Just caught an exchange on ESPN.

"Why is Balotelli so good for Italy and so inconsistent for Man City?"

"Perhaps because Italy play him in his best position as a central striker"

Hmmm

I'd like to think that we all understand that statement.



It's a valid point, but my thinkingis that if you want the shirt you must earn it. For Tevez or Aguero to me moved aside he has to produce more than them.

Clearly he won't out work them, so he has to out score them or play some wicked link up play every time and he doesn't.


how is he supposed to produce on their level if he isn't played in the same position?

Balotelli does try to create for teammates, but both your statement and mine are totally subjective, so I don't think either adds anything to the discussion.

And 'outworking' them is an interesting topic, I've never really noticed aguero doing much defending ... to be honest I notice mario back across the halfway line much more (probably because he's not played as a central striker). And I don't think that's a harsh criticism of Aguero, as I don't want him to be on our side of the halfway line. I don't want balotelli there either.

Balotelli is going to mature into an excellent CF for someone ... I hope it's us and I hope we start playing him there. He's not a winger and he's not a playmaker, and he's certainly not a defender, so why should we want him to be those things?

He's a goalscorer played mostly out of position. I think before we discard, it would be nice to see how he can play in his actual position more than 4 times per year.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Blue Since 76 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:54 am

kinkylola wrote:.

And 'outworking' them is an interesting topic, I've never really noticed aguero doing much defending ... to be honest I notice mario back across the halfway line much more (probably because he's not played as a central striker). And I don't think that's a harsh criticism of Aguero, as I don't want him to be on our side of the halfway line. I don't want balotelli there either
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You're right in that Mario is more likely to be found in his own half trying to help out, although it doesn't usually work out. I do think he's trying to work hard, he just doesn't really understand how to do it and therefore is ineffective which ends up in him being called lazy.

Aguero doesn't track back but what he does is harass the defenders and goal keeper and does it at pace. That's something that neither Mario or Dzeko do and it's that that makes the pair of them look 'lazy'. As I said earlier, I'm not sure they are, they just look it in comparison to Aguero and Tevez.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:58 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Mase wrote:
I think judging by this thread mate most City fans don't think he's good and are happy to get rid. The press slaughter him as playing shit every time he plays.

So where's the myth?


The myth is perpetuated by all those who see world domination in Mario.

He has never shown this potential as far as im concerned, he had a good game in the FA Cup final, which stood out more for the fact that he is usually so frustratingly shit. Mario gets a very easy ride from our fans, too many people willing to defend him on the basis that he might be a decent player in a few years time.

Had united spent 25m on a prospect who was still as erratic as balo at age 22 we would be taking the fucking piss out of them somat rotten.


Ignore the fact that he scored a goal every 102 minutes in the PL last year. Ignore the fact that his contribution led to us winning vital points against Everton, Spurs, Sunderland, QPR. Ignore his display at the Swamp in the Sickswan ( or the FA Cup semi the season before) Ignore his performance for Italy in the semi final of the European championships.

He has shown the potential on numerous occasions. I have no problem with people criticising his attitude, his strops or his lack of consistency but to say he has never shown the potential is frankly horseshit.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Hazy2 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:10 am

Mario does have it, as I said he chooses to be side tracked. Sergio, Tevez, Torres, Lavezi, Cavani, Villa, Messi, Ronaldo, work defenders hard for 90 mins without being involved in a verbal fight, If Mario was to look at himself and ask can I do more, the answer is YES. I see brilliance in him every so often, The others have no interest in the defenders games, they work back fours on a I will do what I want . Messi beats plans to stop week in week out twice a week, Mario beats himself most of the time and allows the likes of John O'shea to somehow get through a game without being run into the ground and exposed as crap.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby stefano » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:09 am

would you sell dzeko or tevez for 20M ?


well..... you can't. no one is willing to pay that kind of money to buy them.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:23 am

stefano wrote:would you sell dzeko or tevez for 20M ?


well..... you can't. no one is willing to pay that kind of money to buy them.


Not sure what this has to do with this thread but I wouldn't be quite so sure that nobody would be willing to pay that kind of money for either of them.

City and PSG reportedly agreed a fee of £21million for Tevez last December. His wages were the sticking point.

And if Juve really want Dzeko they're going to have to pay at least that to make selling him worthwhile for City.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Mase » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:29 am

Vassell worked really hard, shall we get him back? Seen as though running yourself in to the ground is all we're bothered about now.
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Re: Would you sell balo?

Postby Hazy2 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:43 am

Mase wrote:Vassell worked really hard, shall we get him back? Seen as though running yourself in to the ground is all we're bothered about now.


Hard working forwards get lucky, Mario gets pissed off with the game, His school report would read easily distracted. My point on the running defenders into the ground is the harder you work them the more mistakes they make not just for you but for others, Yaya has to see work rate up front otherwise he makes runs for nothing which the crowd see as not tracking back, it's a team game look at Dortmund they gave us a dose of our own medicine, closed us down,we became 10 players watching Joe save us. They had the ball upfront in a split second with runners all over us, Mario could be the best forward anywhere if he realised his talent needs to be used for the club.
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