Mancini lately.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Gradually people are learning that Mancini is not all that. He has fucked up this season by December...

Mancini is wasting vast resources available to him, that only a few managers in world football enjoy.
He has to go.
As soon as possible.

I am glad someone is happy with the result.

Oh yeah, I absolutely fucking love losing to a last minute deflected goal against the shite after giving them a two goal start.
I was just fucking thrilled!

[Chinners]

After all this time with us and managers you'd think knee-jerking 'sack the manager' lessons would have been learnt by now ...

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

How many people genuinely miss Mark Hughes, or Sven, or Keegan or Frank Clark, or Alan Ball?
If you've got the wrong man he needs to go.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Actually, Keegan, with this amount of cash, would be great fun.

[carl_feedthegoat]

After all this time with us and managers you'd think knee-jerking 'sack the manager' lessons would have been learnt by now ...

To be fair its been nearly 4 years...

[ruralblue]

Ok so mancini goes cause we lost a derby game, we still sit second so getting rid of the manager right now makes loads of sense??. So he goes we get pep, team become rattled and cause of fiancial fair play Shit we cannot spend much in Jan. Are we going to push for first or maybe drop down a little more? The latter i suspect. For fucks sake the mans brought us a league after all these years, he fa cup and people still have no patience and expect we can just run away with everything. Yes i am as pissed about yesterday and champions league exit as he next blue but do people want ua to end up like another chelsea?. Stick with him this will come to pass.

8 points with six games left proves for fact that leagues are not won before February let alone xmas. Utd lost to norwich ffs, they can and will drop more points along he way¡¡¡

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

>>>>Ok so mancini goes cause we lost a derby game.


No not because we lost a derby game at all.
He is fucking this season up royally.
Most of his time here has seen dour grinding football. Results have dried up, form is down and he is showing no signs of knowing what to do about it.
I'm not even sure DDR or Falcao would solve it.

[Craig B]

After all this time with us and managers you'd think knee-jerking 'sack the manager' lessons would have been learnt by now ...

To be fair its been nearly 4 years...

To be factually correct Carl it's not even 3 yet m8 (we appointed Bobby 19th December 2009).

[carl_feedthegoat]

After all this time with us and managers you'd think knee-jerking 'sack the manager' lessons would have been learnt by now ...

To be fair its been nearly 4 years...

To be factually correct Carl it's not even 3 yet m8 (we appointed Bobby 19th December 2009).

To be fair its been nearly 3 years....

[lets all have a disco]

Unless we can get Klopp,Special one or Pep then Bobby must stay.

BUT...............

He is writing his own P45 at the moment.

[john68]

If we are to be truly fair Carl, those 3 or 4 years haven't been barren ones.
In that time Mancini has brought us the FA Cup and the League title. That is hardly the result of failure.

The only season he can be reasonably criticised for is the current one and that my Pal is a long way from the end. Piccs is projecting his own fears into the future and assuming Mancini's failure, despite the evidence of previous success.

Despite the fact that when other coaches worked out how to slow or stop us last season, Mancini DID turn it round and evolved a strategy that was so successful it overhauled an 8pt deficit and won us the title, Piccs now asserts Mancini doesn't have that ability.

If we consider that our close season was catastrophic due to events well beyond Mancini's control, and we know his thoughts on that.
We know how unhappy and hamstrung Mancini felt when he was unable to get his main targets of de Rossi, Hazard or Van Penis, whilst the rags and Chelsea both strengthened.

Regarding any plan B, I have previously directed Piccs to the "City Analytics" download, where he would see that Mancini actually set City up in several different plans last season. Piccs chooses to ignore any positive evidence and focus only on the negative.

[carl_feedthegoat]

If we are to be truly fair Carl, those 3 or 4 years haven't been barren ones.
In that time Mancini has brought us the FA Cup and the League title. That is hardly the result of failure.

The only season he can be reasonably criticised for is the current one and that my Pal is a long way from the end. Piccs is projecting his own fears into the future and assuming Mancini's failure, despite the evidence of previous success.

Despite the fact that when other coaches worked out how to slow or stop us last season, Mancini DID turn it round and evolved a strategy that was so successful it overhauled an 8pt deficit and won us the title, Piccs now asserts Mancini doesn't have that ability.

If we consider that our close season was catastrophic due to events well beyond Mancini's control, and we know his thoughts on that.
We know how unhappy and hamstrung Mancini felt when he was unable to get his main targets of de Rossi, Hazard or Van Penis, whilst the rags and Chelsea both strengthened.

Regarding any plan B, I have previously directed Piccs to the "City Analytics" download, where he would see that Mancini actually set City up in several different plans last season. Piccs chooses to ignore any positive evidence and focus only on the negative.

Im actually still fucked off with Hart mate so the Mancini bashing is not yet on my agenda......yet.

[john68]

If we are to be truly fair Carl, those 3 or 4 years haven't been barren ones.
In that time Mancini has brought us the FA Cup and the League title. That is hardly the result of failure.

The only season he can be reasonably criticised for is the current one and that my Pal is a long way from the end. Piccs is projecting his own fears into the future and assuming Mancini's failure, despite the evidence of previous success.

Despite the fact that when other coaches worked out how to slow or stop us last season, Mancini DID turn it round and evolved a strategy that was so successful it overhauled an 8pt deficit and won us the title, Piccs now asserts Mancini doesn't have that ability.

If we consider that our close season was catastrophic due to events well beyond Mancini's control, and we know his thoughts on that.
We know how unhappy and hamstrung Mancini felt when he was unable to get his main targets of de Rossi, Hazard or Van Penis, whilst the rags and Chelsea both strengthened.

Regarding any plan B, I have previously directed Piccs to the "City Analytics" download, where he would see that Mancini actually set City up in several different plans last season. Piccs chooses to ignore any positive evidence and focus only on the negative.

Im actually still fucked off with Hart mate so the Mancini bashing is not yet on my agenda......yet.

:-)

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

If we are to be truly fair Carl, those 3 or 4 years haven't been barren ones.
In that time Mancini has brought us the FA Cup and the League title. That is hardly the result of failure.

The only season he can be reasonably criticised for is the current one and that my Pal is a long way from the end. Piccs is projecting his own fears into the future and assuming Mancini's failure, despite the evidence of previous success.

Despite the fact that when other coaches worked out how to slow or stop us last season, Mancini DID turn it round and evolved a strategy that was so successful it overhauled an 8pt deficit and won us the title, Piccs now asserts Mancini doesn't have that ability.

If we consider that our close season was catastrophic due to events well beyond Mancini's control, and we know his thoughts on that.
We know how unhappy and hamstrung Mancini felt when he was unable to get his main targets of de Rossi, Hazard or Van Penis, whilst the rags and Chelsea both strengthened.

Regarding any plan B, I have previously directed Piccs to the "City Analytics" download, where he would see that Mancini actually set City up in several different plans last season. Piccs chooses to ignore any positive evidence and focus only on the negative.

Well in his first season the first thing he did was throw away a semi final first leg lead against the shite. Then with a monumental fuck up went to Arsenal for a point that ultimately cost us Champions league football. "We aren't ready for Champions League football yet" (one of the most baffling, nonsensical and cowardly pieces of management I have ever seen from any of City's many managers) Now when we have failed in Europe, we're being told we haven't had enough European experience. Well Bob pissed one year of experience away with negativity.
The season after all season long YOU, John, claimed all season long we could win the League, but we never really challenged. Yes we won the FA Cup, Yes it was fantastic, but we did have an easy run right til the semi final.
Last season he lost his way and away from home we suffered. I had the misfortune to go to Lisbon and Swansea in the space of four days to watch two negative non performances, then soon after we had the feeble effort again at Arsenal (where Mancini always seems to lose his bottle). I believe it was only once the title was blown that they ripped up his hopeless plans and just went out and attacked....Shit or bust. Not because of any tactical genius from Bob.

This season has been pretty rancid, This calendar year has been poor away from home. That carve up yesterday had been coming for a while.
And yes our home league record is good, but seven teams have left with a result this season. And don't forget that the filth and Scouse beat us in cup games this year. The problems are spreading to our home form.

Against Everton, last game, I said that if we play like that in the 'derby', United would do the same as Everton. They'd break up our narrow and plodding attack, but the difference would be that Van Turd and The Grannyshagger, would punish us on the counter attack in a way that Scouse II didn't. Hey what a surprise, that's exactly what happened. Bob sleepwalked into it. Fuck me, if I can see it, why can't he?
So for all his plan B, plan C or D E F or G he hasn't managed to find something that works.
Pace and Width Bob. Try that.

[s1ty m]

His not selecting Tevez yesterday was met with a chorus of groans outside the gorund, by the throngs around the big screens. Amazing to hear it when Mario's name was read out. I thought it was a dire tactical error and cost us the impetus. Most 1st halves this season have been horrible. Then they improve beyond all recognition. That I cannot understand at all.

My biggest concern is Mancini's inabiltity to spot shit footballers, Garcia being his latest amazing waste of a vast transfer fee. What was he, 14m or something daft?

If Mancini stays, so be it. If he leaves and it is, say, Pep, then fine. Mancini may well have taken us as far as he can and to some extent, I think that is being demonstrated this season. Yes, we are in a way better place than when he came in, but progressing? Not really, not for me. I don't see Sinclair, Garcia and Rodwell as any form of progress and the football is going backwards.

[Hazy2]

Hand on heart we are not playing like champions, Mancini has the tools he just seems to be stubborn in his way is the only way. Sorry Bobby you blew a big chance yesterday as the scum are shite and we failed big time to blow them away. Mario, is not justifying a starting place ahead of Tevez who wears our shirt as we want to see it. We have somehow stagnated at best.

[Redna]

He'll have to sort things out and imo will do. I don't understand this Pep thing. He would be a big misstake. What's his merits?
Coaching Barcelona is a totaly different ballgame compared to our hot seat. Barcelona gets what they want in terms of media, reffering etc. Wouldn't last long.
CTID!!

[Chockyblue]

I've had to come and join this forum to vent my anger at what happened yesterday..we all know bobby has lost the plot..he has to prove to everyone he's right all the time with his apparently clever ideas ..3 at the back,balotelli over revel???? Are just two. He needs to leave now before he's sacked .if we lose points over Xmas we won't recover and I can see us finishing forth ...

[s1ty m]

If we are to be truly fair Carl, those 3 or 4 years haven't been barren ones.
In that time Mancini has brought us the FA Cup and the League title. That is hardly the result of failure.

The only season he can be reasonably criticised for is the current one and that my Pal is a long way from the end. Piccs is projecting his own fears into the future and assuming Mancini's failure, despite the evidence of previous success.

Despite the fact that when other coaches worked out how to slow or stop us last season, Mancini DID turn it round and evolved a strategy that was so successful it overhauled an 8pt deficit and won us the title, Piccs now asserts Mancini doesn't have that ability.

If we consider that our close season was catastrophic due to events well beyond Mancini's control, and we know his thoughts on that.
We know how unhappy and hamstrung Mancini felt when he was unable to get his main targets of de Rossi, Hazard or Van Penis, whilst the rags and Chelsea both strengthened.

Regarding any plan B, I have previously directed Piccs to the "City Analytics" download, where he would see that Mancini actually set City up in several different plans last season. Piccs chooses to ignore any positive evidence and focus only on the negative.

Well in his first season the first thing he did was throw away a semi final first leg lead against the shite. Then with a monumental fuck up went to Arsenal for a point that ultimately cost us Champions league football. "We aren't ready for Champions League football yet" (one of the most baffling, nonsensical and cowardly pieces of management I have ever seen from any of City's many managers) Now when we have failed in Europe, we're being told we haven't had enough European experience. Well Bob pissed one year of experience away with negativity.
The season after all season long YOU, John, claimed all season long we could win the League, but we never really challenged. Yes we won the FA Cup, Yes it was fantastic, but we did have an easy run right til the semi final.
Last season he lost his way and away from home we suffered. I had the misfortune to go to Lisbon and Swansea in the space of four days to watch two negative non performances, then soon after we had the feeble effort again at Arsenal (where Mancini always seems to lose his bottle). I believe it was only once the title was blown that they ripped up his hopeless plans and just went out and attacked....Shit or bust. Not because of any tactical genius from Bob.

This season has been pretty rancid, This calendar year has been poor away from home. That carve up yesterday had been coming for a while.
And yes our home league record is good, but seven teams have left with a result this season. And don't forget that the filth and Scouse beat us in cup games this year. The problems are spreading to our home form.

Against Everton, last game, I said that if we play like that in the 'derby', United would do the same as Everton. They'd break up our narrow and plodding attack, but the difference would be that Van Turd and The Grannyshagger, would punish us on the counter attack in a way that Scouse II didn't. Hey what a surprise, that's exactly what happened. Bob sleepwalked into it. Fuck me, if I can see it, why can't he?
So for all his plan B, plan C or D E F or G he hasn't managed to find something that works.
Pace and Width Bob. Try that.

I think this is an excellent post and is a better summing up of my view that I attempted.

[bleedBlue]

How many people genuinely miss Mark Hughes, or Sven, or Keegan or Frank Clark, or Alan Ball?
If you've got the wrong man he needs to go.

How many people genuinely miss Mark Hughes, or Sven, or Keegan or Frank Clark, or Alan Ball?
If you've got the wrong man he needs to go.

As much as the guy sucked,one thing like about Hughes was the pace injected into the squad...Mancini doesnt appreciate that...the first thing he did was to get rid of Bellamy and our speedsters..and Aj is no Bellamy,Scott Sinclair is neither... I keep preaching - this until we start playing with pace and purpose ,we will struggle against good teams esp. in the CL. rags are not a good team. They simply copy a page from our CL opponents and exploited our weakness... I got the feeling that Mancini is not getting the best out of our current team...and his footballing philosophy has reached its limits...he has done all he can..the owners have spent millions on improving our team, unfortunately, we are no longer progressing. That all stopped since the beginning of the season..WTF man...