*** Sunderland v Champions - Official Match Thread ***

[Goaters 103]

weve not improved since last season imo, too much pissing about sideways and backwards passing and hardly any shooting, reading nearly sussed us last week sunderland did today. no width and no crosses ,scum are experts at width and crossing, its won them countless titles, weve bought in sub standard during the summer, bar nastasic.been on the off website mancini is blaming the ref for not giving us a free kick before their goal, we could still be playing now and would,nt have scored.

Blaming the ref is embarrassing. It should have been a free kick but that doesn't mean a totally half arsed speculative effort should beat England's No1 keeper, or that we can't break down a defence that didn't even play that well.

When we beat the rags at our place under Sven, we defended 10 times better than that & had to be that good to survive. Sunderland only needed to be average. That is the problem.

Spot on Ted. You could see that we weren't going to score at all at about the 60 min mark - that game was like a really shit panto where you know how it ends. Blaming the ref hides our many problems - we got away with it on saturday, not today.

[Cocacolajojo1]

I'm asking a legitimate question, not playing with words ffs. You are the one who made the comparison to last year, not me, I just corrected you. I made the point that we have had this problem & some time & I am questioning whether we have improved.

We did cause we won the league. I answered your question but you were too busy ranting to notice that. And don't give me the cushion thing. The reason we were initiallm on top and the reason we clawed back title is because the players and the manager have proven that they are capable of doing what they need to do to win the title.

They're not doing it now though. That's a problem. You can't solve that by asking leading questions. I wish mancini could solve this problem but I don't think he'll do it this season.

[Ted Hughes]

I'm asking a legitimate question, not playing with words ffs. You are the one who made the comparison to last year, not me, I just corrected you. I made the point that we have had this problem & some time & I am questioning whether we have improved.

We did cause we won the league. I answered your question but you were too busy ranting to notice that. And don't give me the cushion thing. The reason we were initiallm on top and the reason we clawed back title is because the players and the manager is because they have proven that they are capable of doing what they need to do to win the title.

They're not doing it now though. That's a problem. You can't solve that by asking leading questions. I wish mancini could solve this problem but I don't think he'll do it this season.

IM NOT TALKING ABOUT WHETHER WE WON THE LEAGUE OR NOT. I'M NOT EVEN INTERESTED IN AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

I think we have fucked that up but nothing will please me more than to be wrong but I'M NOT ASKING THAT QUESTION.

[Cocacolajojo1]

IM NOT TALKING ABOUT WHETHER WE WON THE LEAGUE OR NOT. I'M NOT EVEN INTERESTED IN AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

I think we have fucked that up but nothing will please me more than to be wrong but I'M NOT ASKING THAT QUESTION.

Well if you're incapable of understanding of how you yourself and I have answered several of your questions, I can't help you mate. The caps lock was impressive though.

[Mase]

I wonder if Hart went out with AJ tonight to celebrate like he did with the rag lot the other week?

[carl_feedthegoat]

I wonder if Hart went out with AJ tonight to celebrate like he did with the rag lot the other week?

He is making too many stupid fuckign mistakes,I think RW has been impressive in training , Id drop HART and also drop that greedy little cunt Aguero for a while put wright in and play Dzeko from the off...fuck knows where Balo is,injured?holidays?headaches?

Mancini will probably carry on with plan A though as he hasnt got any other fuckign plan....fucking embarrassing it is.

[Ted Hughes]

IM NOT TALKING ABOUT WHETHER WE WON THE LEAGUE OR NOT. I'M NOT EVEN INTERESTED IN AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

I think we have fucked that up but nothing will please me more than to be wrong but I'M NOT ASKING THAT QUESTION.

Well if you're incapable of understanding of how you yourself and I have answered several of your questions, I can't help you mate. The caps lock was impressive though.

You can't help with anything at all, no.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

I remember people here saying they didnt want Van Persie. I don't care if he's a cunt, if we had him it would be us 7 points clear rather than them.

[Superbia]

Yous lot are embarassing van persie is not the reason their 7 points ahead thats down to our team and the ball stops with the manager hes causing us to play with these pedestrian and our strikers aint the problem its the little chances that our created

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Yous lot are embarassing van persie is not the reason their 7 points ahead thats down to our team and the ball stops with the manager hes causing us to play with these pedestrian and our strikers aint the problem its the little chances that our created

Yes it is. He's carried them this season, just like he carried Arsenal last season. He's exactly the type of player we need, someone who can create something out of nothing.

[Sister of fu]

I remember people here saying they didnt want Van Persie. I don't care if he's a cunt, if we had him it would be us 7 points clear rather than them.

We should have gone all out for him. Don't care about his age etc, he would have improved us and instead has improved them. They want fuck up a 2nd time in 2 seasons and I fee sick about that. Too many players who have rested on their laurels and too many average players in the squad. We have gone backwards big time and I don't know how we are going to move on. Really gutted this evening.

[Im_Spartacus]

Yes it is. He's carried them this season, just like he carried Arsenal last season. He's exactly the type of player we need, someone who can create something out of nothing.

How many goals has he scored from nothing, and I mean purely from his own skill and ability?

And how many goals has he scored because the team delivered the ball to a point where he had a scoring opportunity?

Serious question, because reading past week, sunderland this week, and many of the other games this season we have been laboured in, would not have seen a single ball delivered into a position for RVP to prosper.

RVP would have been just as useless as Aguero, Tevez, Dzeko and balotelli have been for the majority of this season without the service United give him

Same goes for Rooney

[Beefymcfc]

I remember people here saying they didnt want Van Persie. I don't care if he's a cunt, if we had him it would be us 7 points clear rather than them.

We should have gone all out for him. Don't care about his age etc, he would have improved us and instead has improved them. They want fuck up a 2nd time in 2 seasons and I fee sick about that. Too many players who have rested on their laurels and too many average players in the squad. We have gone backwards big time and I don't know how we are going to move on. Really gutted this evening.

I agree mate. Total downer.

[Mase]

Some of you want RvP but would say no to Ronaldo??!!!

[sidSmith]

Some of you want RvP but would say no to Ronaldo??!!!

No to Neymar too or anybody else that wasn't considered a grafter who can put a shift in.

[Mase]

No to Neymar too or anybody else that wasn't considered a grafter who can put a shift in.

I was thinking more of a horrible rapist cunt!

[sidSmith]

I was thinking more of a horrible rapist cunt!

A clinical rapist, perhaps

[Redna]

Well , we're almost safe ;)
CTID!!

[carolina-blue]

Some of you want RvP but would say no to Ronaldo??!!!

Good point , We have three of the best strikers in the prem and Balo :) . Imo Its the slow build up play that is causing us the problems Any striker in the world would struggle if the opposition have time to put a couple of men on them every time they turn around Somebody like Ronaldo who is prepared to speed things up and run at defenders will free up space for the strikers Bale would do the same thing . This slow methodical jab jab jab drives me insane sometimes you just need the Ali windmill knockout punch .

[johnny crossan]

the forum has gone very ugly in places, sad to see.