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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Nigels Tackle » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:18 pm

way he played last night, won't be long before barry gets a call from findus...
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:22 pm

When we lost to Spurs for 4th place, Barry was shite then too.

Since then, he's been largely excellent, but if he plays a lot of games his legs go. When his legs go, he is shite. He needs resting more often.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:36 pm

Honestly, Gareth Barry is perhaps the most overrated player I've ever seen for City. Is he bad player? No. But he is amazingly overrated by supporters. He makes numerous of silly mistakes in just about every game and is very slow. I thought yesterday was pretty ordinary Gareth Barry performance if you take away that own goal.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:40 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Honestly, Gareth Barry is perhaps the most overrated player I've ever seen for City. Is he bad player? No. But he is amazingly overrated by supporters. He makes numerous of silly mistakes in just about every game and is very slow. I thought yesterday was pretty ordinary Gareth Barry performance if you take away that own goal.


Having been one of his most savage critics in his forst 18 months, I would say he is what has made the team tick since.

Aberration yesterday and there can be no repeat, but if he is on the wane, we have a huge problem as we cant afford to replace everybody!
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:50 pm

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Honestly, Gareth Barry is perhaps the most overrated player I've ever seen for City. Is he bad player? No. But he is amazingly overrated by supporters. He makes numerous of silly mistakes in just about every game and is very slow. I thought yesterday was pretty ordinary Gareth Barry performance if you take away that own goal.


Having been one of his most savage critics in his forst 18 months, I would say he is what has made the team tick since.

Aberration yesterday and there can be no repeat, but if he is on the wane, we have a huge problem as we cant afford to replace everybody!


There is no other player I've seen in recent times who reads a game like Barry. Some of the positions he takes up when the ball is elsewhere, then suddenly the oppo pass it straight to Gareth Barry, it's like a 6th sense. I've seen him running to make a challenge then suddenly he'll change direction & the ball just lands at his feet. It's fantastic imo. But he's slow & he can't afford to be slower.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Florida Blue » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:02 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Honestly, Gareth Barry is perhaps the most overrated player I've ever seen for City. Is he bad player? No. But he is amazingly overrated by supporters. He makes numerous of silly mistakes in just about every game and is very slow. I thought yesterday was pretty ordinary Gareth Barry performance if you take away that own goal.


Having been one of his most savage critics in his forst 18 months, I would say he is what has made the team tick since.

Aberration yesterday and there can be no repeat, but if he is on the wane, we have a huge problem as we cant afford to replace everybody!


There is no other player I've seen in recent times who reads a game like Barry. Some of the positions he takes up when the ball is elsewhere, then suddenly the oppo pass it straight to Gareth Barry, it's like a 6th sense. I've seen him running to make a challenge then suddenly he'll change direction & the ball just lands at his feet. It's fantastic imo. But he's slow & he can't afford to be slower.


Ted, reading the game is one thing. I have seen "older" players in other sports make some fine decisions, only to see their body no longer be able to execute it. That is what Barry looked like today: good intentions, but no execution. I cannot say the same about many other players on the pitch yesterday, they lacked any intensity. Joe Hart's howler pretty much summed up how much the team seemed to care.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:06 pm

Florida Blue wrote:
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Im_Spartacus wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Honestly, Gareth Barry is perhaps the most overrated player I've ever seen for City. Is he bad player? No. But he is amazingly overrated by supporters. He makes numerous of silly mistakes in just about every game and is very slow. I thought yesterday was pretty ordinary Gareth Barry performance if you take away that own goal.


Having been one of his most savage critics in his forst 18 months, I would say he is what has made the team tick since.

Aberration yesterday and there can be no repeat, but if he is on the wane, we have a huge problem as we cant afford to replace everybody!


There is no other player I've seen in recent times who reads a game like Barry. Some of the positions he takes up when the ball is elsewhere, then suddenly the oppo pass it straight to Gareth Barry, it's like a 6th sense. I've seen him running to make a challenge then suddenly he'll change direction & the ball just lands at his feet. It's fantastic imo. But he's slow & he can't afford to be slower.


Ted, reading the game is one thing. I have seen "older" players in other sports make some fine decisions, only to see their body no longer be able to execute it. That is what Barry looked like today: good intentions, but no execution. I cannot say the same about many other players on the pitch yesterday, they lacked any intensity. Joe Hart's howler pretty much summed up how much the team seemed to care.


Imo it's down to the fact that he's knackered. Before Mancio hung himself from the leaning tower, he & I predicted this would happen to Barry; that he would tire & become ineffective in this period due to playing too much.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Mase » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:55 pm

I wasn't a fan of Barry but this season he's won me over. Not only with his reading of the game but he's also got forward more this season and been useful.

I suppose he's allowed one bad game in ten. Nasri has one good game in ten.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Spurge » Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:11 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Honestly, Gareth Barry is perhaps the most overrated player I've ever seen for City. Is he bad player? No. But he is amazingly overrated by supporters. He makes numerous of silly mistakes in just about every game and is very slow. I thought yesterday was pretty ordinary Gareth Barry performance if you take away that own goal.


Having been one of his most savage critics in his forst 18 months, I would say he is what has made the team tick since.

Aberration yesterday and there can be no repeat, but if he is on the wane, we have a huge problem as we cant afford to replace everybody!


There is no other player I've seen in recent times who reads a game like Barry. Some of the positions he takes up when the ball is elsewhere, then suddenly the oppo pass it straight to Gareth Barry, it's like a 6th sense. I've seen him running to make a challenge then suddenly he'll change direction & the ball just lands at his feet. It's fantastic imo. But he's slow & he can't afford to be slower.


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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Dameerto » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:26 pm

He's carried the midfield since just before Yaya left, if people can't see that after watching all the games then they shouldn't be allowed to have opinions of their own. Had shite game yesterday though, but so did the rest of the team.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby MilnersJaw » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:25 pm

zuricity wrote:
Im_Spartacus wrote:
Why? Honest question.

Not like the midfield against Liverpool shone is it?


Well, he's been missing for six weeks and i think it shows respect to those that have carried the team during that period to let them continue. You can always ease one player back into the team, slowly.

I know i would be pissed off if the manager dropped me for someone who had been on a six week jolly. Especially since before he buggered off his form had already dipped in preparation for the African jolly. It sends the wrong signals to players. Some can do what they want and still play. Poor old James was the scapegoat for this yesterday. Good lad Jim , just gets on with it.

Yaya needs to understand he has to pull his finger out , every game.


if I recall, yaya has been shite all this season bar the odd game here and there.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby zuricity » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:27 pm

MilnersJaw wrote:
if I recall, yaya has been shite all this season bar the odd game here and there.


I was being kind to yaya
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby MaineRoadMemories » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:41 pm

When Barry plays badly it tends to be an absolute stinker. The same happened when he played for Villa too. Thankfully they don't happen too often. I think a game or two's rest would work wonders for him but I don't really trust Rodwell to do his job like I did De Jong.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:53 pm

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There is no other player I've seen in recent times who reads a game like Barry. Some of the positions he takes up when the ball is elsewhere, then suddenly the oppo pass it straight to Gareth Barry, it's like a 6th sense. I've seen him running to make a challenge then suddenly he'll change direction & the ball just lands at his feet. It's fantastic imo. But he's slow & he can't afford to be slower.


Didi Hamann. I never saw him move and yet the opposition just kept passing to him.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby ross.mcfc » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:58 pm

I have always like Barry as a player even before he was at City. A no nonsense, no thrills type of player who due to being a good pro never really got the credit he deserved.

He has had a good spell at City but he is one I would consider cutting loose at the end of the season. He may still do a job for another season but he is not going to get any better as a player.

I think he has been below par this season, I wonder if his motivation has dipped. He probably never thought he would play in a league winning side. He has his medal now. He will never play in a CL winning side. He's peaked.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:39 am

ross.mcfc wrote:I have always like Barry as a player even before he was at City. A no nonsense, no thrills type of player who due to being a good pro never really got the credit he deserved.

He has had a good spell at City but he is one I would consider cutting loose at the end of the season. He may still do a job for another season but he is not going to get any better as a player.

I think he has been below par this season, I wonder if his motivation has dipped. He probably never thought he would play in a league winning side. He has his medal now. He will never play in a CL winning side. He's peaked.


That is absolutely 100% how I feel about him.
He IS and always WAS a solid pro and dependable player (who always had amazing amount of handballs, mind) who never quite got the credit he deserved....but it almost seems like he went through that tunnel and came out from the other end with lot of our supporters. People talk about him like he is some super world class performer. The heart of our midfield. He isn't. And never was. He was just quietly really good for a long time.

The way I see it, the problem with him is and always was lack of pace. While his amazing anticipation usually covered for his lack of pace, it seems to me that it is finally starting to catch up with him. People will keep saying how he does amazing things quietly (and make completely overboard statements like him being best player in our midfield) but he does them less and less frequently. I agree that he has been below par most of the season. Not by a big margin but still below par. He is going to turn 32 in few weeks and he could fall off the cliff any second with him getting slower and slower every day.

I hope we move him on in summer and keep the good memories. I'd hate it all to turn bitter in the end. Funny how someone mentioned Didi Hamann. He was 32 when he joined us. Former legit world class player who had lost what little pace he ever had. He was still competent for lower mid-table team but his days at the top were past him. Three years on from that and he was done with Premier League football. I'd love us to sell him back to Aston Villa for some nominal fee. Let him finish his career with HIS team.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Goaters 103 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:37 am

Barry's been excellent for us the past 2 seasons; he's a players player who does the dirty work in tracking the runner, sticking the foot in to win the ball, and maintaining position keeping the ball moving and ensuring the ball gets to the feet of the skill players as often as possible.

When he's bad, he has a real stinker and Saturday was one of those days. Id certainly keep him in the squad but agree with others that he should be rotated more. I would play Milner in the anchor central midf role more often as he's far more dynamic and can essentially do the job Barry does and with a bit more of a goal threat and mobility.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby ross.mcfc » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:34 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
ross.mcfc wrote:I have always like Barry as a player even before he was at City. A no nonsense, no thrills type of player who due to being a good pro never really got the credit he deserved.

He has had a good spell at City but he is one I would consider cutting loose at the end of the season. He may still do a job for another season but he is not going to get any better as a player.

I think he has been below par this season, I wonder if his motivation has dipped. He probably never thought he would play in a league winning side. He has his medal now. He will never play in a CL winning side. He's peaked.


That is absolutely 100% how I feel about him.
He IS and always WAS a solid pro and dependable player (who always had amazing amount of handballs, mind) who never quite got the credit he deserved....but it almost seems like he went through that tunnel and came out from the other end with lot of our supporters. People talk about him like he is some super world class performer. The heart of our midfield. He isn't. And never was. He was just quietly really good for a long time.

The way I see it, the problem with him is and always was lack of pace. While his amazing anticipation usually covered for his lack of pace, it seems to me that it is finally starting to catch up with him. People will keep saying how he does amazing things quietly (and make completely overboard statements like him being best player in our midfield) but he does them less and less frequently. I agree that he has been below par most of the season. Not by a big margin but still below par. He is going to turn 32 in few weeks and he could fall off the cliff any second with him getting slower and slower every day.

I hope we move him on in summer and keep the good memories. I'd hate it all to turn bitter in the end. Funny how someone mentioned Didi Hamann. He was 32 when he joined us. Former legit world class player who had lost what little pace he ever had. He was still competent for lower mid-table team but his days at the top were past him. Three years on from that and he was done with Premier League football. I'd love us to sell him back to Aston Villa for some nominal fee. Let him finish his career with HIS team.



No matter what Barry does in his career now, in ten years time all I will remember from him was being shown up to be out of his depth at against Germany in the World Cup. They played fast flowing counter attacking football which he simply could not live with. It was that game that showed me that he will never play at the highest table of football.

I recall the race between him and Ozil for Germany's 4th goal. At first I thought he was playing for offside, or that he had torn a hamstring.
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby Blue Since 76 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:41 pm

ross.mcfc wrote:
No matter what Barry does in his career now, in ten years time all I will remember from him was being shown up to be out of his depth at against Germany in the World Cup. They played fast flowing counter attacking football which he simply could not live with. It was that game that showed me that he will never play at the highest table of football.

I recall the race between him and Ozil for Germany's 4th goal. At first I thought he was playing for offside, or that he had torn a hamstring.


A game in which he was exposed by the rest of team of the team providing no cover and a game in which he wasn't fully fit.

But yeah, remember him for one game for England and not for winning three trophies with City
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Re: Gareth Barry

Postby london blue 2 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:11 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
ross.mcfc wrote:
No matter what Barry does in his career now, in ten years time all I will remember from him was being shown up to be out of his depth at against Germany in the World Cup. They played fast flowing counter attacking football which he simply could not live with. It was that game that showed me that he will never play at the highest table of football.

I recall the race between him and Ozil for Germany's 4th goal. At first I thought he was playing for offside, or that he had torn a hamstring.


A game in which he was exposed by the rest of team of the team providing no cover and a game in which he wasn't fully fit.

But yeah, remember him for one game for England and not for winning three trophies with City

Was gonna post something similar. Scapegoat for that campaign. Ozil would burn most of that team.
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