Anyone got Moureens number?

[Beefymcfc]

Mourinho beats United in the CL then signs with us the next day. How good would that be?

[Ted Hughes]

We'll be stronger next year if we sign Mourinho as well. Just it would be a bit unfair, cause upheaval & we would have to put up with his bellend antics. I'd still back us to win the league though.

We'd be ace for three years and then he'd fuck off and set us back five. He'd sign a load of 28 year-olds on hefty contracts with no resale potential, just as he did at Chelsea and Inter.

No thanks. Plus he's an utter minge.

If you aint noticed that's what Mancini is gonna leave behind.
That's the one thing that puts me off dumping him, it will be expensive to shift some of the shit we have on big wages.

Both of these are only partially true.

His legacy at Chelsea was a top side that even Avram Grant could manage. And Bob has brought in some quality players at the right age, which I recon Avram Grant could also manage.

[Beefymcfc]

We'll be stronger next year if we sign Mourinho as well. Just it would be a bit unfair, cause upheaval & we would have to put up with his bellend antics. I'd still back us to win the league though.

We'd be ace for three years and then he'd fuck off and set us back five. He'd sign a load of 28 year-olds on hefty contracts with no resale potential, just as he did at Chelsea and Inter.

No thanks. Plus he's an utter minge.

If you aint noticed that's what Mancini is gonna leave behind.
That's the one thing that puts me off dumping him, it will be expensive to shift some of the shit we have on big wages.

Piccs, serious question mate. Who is this shit we have?

[Ted Hughes]

Mourinho beats United in the CL then signs with us the next day. How good would that be?

I would rather stick with Bob personally.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

We'll be stronger next year if we sign Mourinho as well. Just it would be a bit unfair, cause upheaval & we would have to put up with his bellend antics. I'd still back us to win the league though.

We'd be ace for three years and then he'd fuck off and set us back five. He'd sign a load of 28 year-olds on hefty contracts with no resale potential, just as he did at Chelsea and Inter.

No thanks. Plus he's an utter minge.

If you aint noticed that's what Mancini is gonna leave behind.
That's the one thing that puts me off dumping him, it will be expensive to shift some of the shit we have on big wages.

Piccs, serious question mate. Who is this shit we have?

Players who will be difficult to shift, on big money, who aren't doing it. Off the top of me head.
Nasri
Garcia
Rodwell
Sinclair
Milner
Dzeko
Kolarov
Maicon
Is Kolo gone this summer?

[Im_Spartacus]

We'd be ace for three years and then he'd fuck off and set us back five. He'd sign a load of 28 year-olds on hefty contracts with no resale potential, just as he did at Chelsea and Inter.

No thanks. Plus he's an utter minge.

Not under ffp he wont.

He wouldl be a coach, hired to use the squad we have got, with additions within the financial scope of the club.

Thats the reality of FFP, it will sort the coaches out from the ones who can spend a bit of coin.

Mourinho's record in the man management dept is beyond reproach, although he seems to be doing a good job pissing some at madrid off right now I suspect that has something to do with the personality of the players involved too

[Im_Spartacus]

Players who will be difficult to shift, on big money, who aren't doing it. Off the top of me head.
Nasri
Garcia
Rodwell
Sinclair
Milner
Dzeko
Kolarov
Maicon
Is Kolo gone this summer?

Do you not think that if we get a new manager, they will be able to work with these.

Dzeko is our top scorer and has never been played in the right system for his strengths, milner has been exceptional these last few weeks and has the odd off day, there is time for the others to come good under a manager who makes an attempt to mould the system to the players he has, not the other way round.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Players who will be difficult to shift, on big money, who aren't doing it. Off the top of me head.
Nasri
Garcia
Rodwell
Sinclair
Milner
Dzeko
Kolarov
Maicon
Is Kolo gone this summer?

Do you not think that if we get a new manager, they will be able to work with these.



Dzeko is our top scorer and has never been played in the right system for his strengths, milner has been exceptional these last few weeks and has the odd off day, there is time for the others to come good under a manager who makes an attempt to mould the system to the players he has, not the other way round.

I think "exceptional" is perhaps stretching it a bit when talking of Milner. But it's about opinions.
I will certainly take your point about Dzeko and maybe one or two others being possibly better employed in a different system.
I think Barry needs to be shifted on too in all honesty. I know some wank over him, and I do see why they enthuse over certain aspects of his play, but I believe he is a big part of the reason we are so slow and unadventurous going forward. He brings little to the attacking table.
In the main though I would guess a new man would want to shift some of that lot on, and bring in some pace and width.

[Ted Hughes]

Players who will be difficult to shift, on big money, who aren't doing it. Off the top of me head.
Nasri
Garcia
Rodwell
Sinclair
Milner
Dzeko
Kolarov
Maicon
Is Kolo gone this summer?

Do you not think that if we get a new manager, they will be able to work with these.

I think "exceptional" is perhaps stretching it a bit when talking of Milner. But it's about opinions.
I will certainly take your point about Dzeko and maybe one or two others being possibly better employed in a different system.
I think Barry needs to be shifted on too in all honesty. I know some wank over him, and I do see why they enthuse over certain aspects of his play, but I believe he is a big part of the reason we are so slow and unadventurous going forward. He brings little to the attacking table.

Dzeko is our top scorer and has never been played in the right system for his strengths, milner has been exceptional these last few weeks and has the odd off day, there is time for the others to come good under a manager who makes an attempt to mould the system to the players he has, not the other way round.

Dzeko got some great balls in yesterday tbf & didn't get anywhere near them. He is a fucking fairy.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I'm still waiting for someone to come up with some names that would make me think "hmmmm.....he may have a point".

For starters, Jose Mourinho is employed by Real Madrid. You don't just go and steal Real's manager do you?
Someone said Rogers, I thought that was a joke but it actually got some responses. He is managing Liverpool team that cost hundreds of millions to put together as well and what does he have to show for it? 9 points behind Champion's League spot and just got kicked out of FA Cup by fucking Oldham Athletic. It's tragic that someone would even mention him.

So who else? Pep's gone to Munich (I predict he will fail there by the way) and then we got long list of Chelsea rejects. As a matter of fact Roberto Di Matteo is one of the few that would make any sense but can anyone say that he is better manager than Mancini?

[Beefymcfc]

Chris Hughton. There, I said it.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Its a shit argument to say that because you can't think of anybody to replace him, we stick with a failing manager.
Of course we can find one manager in the wide wide world of football with the opportunity and cash we can offer.

[sheblue]

There isn't exactly a long list of suitable replacements. If bob stepped down tomorrow, (which won't happen) who would replace him?

[Ted Hughes]

I'm still waiting for someone to come up with some names that would make me think "hmmmm.....he may have a point".

For starters, Jose Mourinho is employed by Real Madrid. You don't just go and steal Real's manager do you?
Someone said Rogers, I thought that was a joke but it actually got some responses. He is managing Liverpool team that cost hundreds of millions to put together as well and what does he have to show for it? 9 points behind Champion's League spot and just got kicked out of FA Cup by fucking Oldham Athletic. It's tragic that someone would even mention him.

So who else? Pep's gone to Munich (I predict he will fail there by the way) and then we got long list of Chelsea rejects. As a matter of fact Roberto Di Matteo is one of the few that would make any sense but can anyone say that he is better manager than Mancini?

It is difficult to make a case for anyone being a better option than Mancini but 'the powers that be' make that decision & know the feeling amongst the players, & from their own dealings with him.

If they decide to get rid, Mourinho is the obvious choice for someone with a proven track record but he's had a terrible season & is a wanker. I'm pretty sure he'll win trophies again somewhere though. I just don't want him.

I don't know enough about the Klopps of this world to make a judgement. I hate to say it but Moyes could do it imo. He was tactically better than Bob at our place & has proved he knows how to play proper football as well as result football. That would be a huge gamble as he has no record of success, so sacking Bob is a bigger gamble than keeping him imo.

If he loses the players though, it will happen. Something was a bit fishy yesterday. Whether it's that or something else I've no idea but something felt wrong other than just a bad day at the office.

[Ted Hughes]

Its a shit argument to say that because you can't think of anybody to replace him, we stick with a failing manager.
Of course we can find one manager in the wide wide world of football with the opportunity and cash we can offer.

It's a bit shit to sack a manager without a good reason for wanting his replacement.

You would be basically saying 'anybody' will do as long as it's not Bob. That's no way to run a football club unless your name is Swales.

[Beefymcfc]

Players who will be difficult to shift, on big money, who aren't doing it. Off the top of me head.

Nasri - I don't think he's shit but he hasn't lived up to expectation.
Garcia - Why would we get rid so quickly. He's been up and down for me, one of the last minute signings.
Rodwell - I always thought he was quality at Everton and expecting him to come good here. Worrying injury problems though.
Sinclair - Again, why get rid so early. I actually like Sinclair from seeing him previously and find it frustrating he doesn't get a shout.
Milner - Are you serious, this is MCF.nets poster boy.
Dzeko - A quality striker in the right set-up but I think he'll be gone at the end of the season.
Kolarov - Non-plussed.
Maicon - Brought in as back-up and also to change the formation. Short-term contract and on the cheap. Brings experience.
Is Kolo gone this summer? Sure is, as is RSC and Bridge. We may even buy some decent players with the money saved.

[Mark Garrett]

Ah, because we were shit once upon a time, makes this situation ok for us to be bent over and take it up the ricker like last night?

Glad you cleared that up, I cant get on with my Sunday now in a cheery mood

Calling for the manager's head and saying that you've never been so disgusted is beyond pathetic. Who are we, Chelsea? Liverpool?

We've always been known for our perspective, patience and sense of humour. Plenty of posters on here are seriously lacking in all three departments.

The league has gone this year, but the FA Cup hasn't. And I'm convinced we'll come back stronger next year. So long as we don't panic and hire a bell-end like Mourinho, that is.

We'll be stronger next year if we sign Mourinho as well. Just it would be a bit unfair, cause upheaval & we would have to put up with his bellend antics. I'd still back us to win the league though.

Ted - ok, say for instance in the summer, we sack Mancini and replace him with Jose. Will people want Mourinhio sacked if we finish 2nd or 3rd and don't win a trophy? What I mean is I do not want us to be a Chelsea or a Real Madrid model where we constantly have upheaval in the manager's office. I would like us to stick with a manager who has a lot of credit in the bank in managerial terms, through the good and bad times.

This same questions applies to Piccs.

[Beefymcfc]

Ah, because we were shit once upon a time, makes this situation ok for us to be bent over and take it up the ricker like last night?

Glad you cleared that up, I cant get on with my Sunday now in a cheery mood

Calling for the manager's head and saying that you've never been so disgusted is beyond pathetic. Who are we, Chelsea? Liverpool?

We've always been known for our perspective, patience and sense of humour. Plenty of posters on here are seriously lacking in all three departments.

The league has gone this year, but the FA Cup hasn't. And I'm convinced we'll come back stronger next year. So long as we don't panic and hire a bell-end like Mourinho, that is.

We'll be stronger next year if we sign Mourinho as well. Just it would be a bit unfair, cause upheaval & we would have to put up with his bellend antics. I'd still back us to win the league though.

Ted - ok, say for instance in the summer, we sack Mancini and replace him with Jose. Will people want Mourinhio sacked if we finish 2nd or 3rd and don't win a trophy? What I mean is I do not want us to be a Chelsea or a Real Madrid model where we constantly have upheaval in the manager's office. I would like us to stick with a manager who has a lot of credit in the bank in managerial terms, through the good and bad times.

This same questions applies to Piccs.

I'd always give the manager support, whoever it is, but I may find myself getting in the giddy camp if we lost a game. Just because I could.

[blues2win]

I remember a similar low point after the game at the Emirates last season but this seems worse. United aren't that great this season yet they could be 12 points clear today which isn't good enough. Add that to our dreadful CL campaign and Mancini has a crisis on his hands. If he can pull the team together and secure runner up plus the FA Cup he could survive I suppose but I can't help feeling that if Mourinho is available we'll come knocking. Hands up those who have real confidence that we'll improve next season under present management? I can't imagine Khaldoun thinks any different. Mancini's fighting for his job, there's no doubt about it.

[Im_Spartacus]

Ted - ok, say for instance in the summer, we sack Mancini and replace him with Jose. Will people want Mourinhio sacked if we finish 2nd or 3rd and don't win a trophy? What I mean is I do not want us to be a Chelsea or a Real Madrid model where we constantly have upheaval in the manager's office. I would like us to stick with a manager who has a lot of credit in the bank in managerial terms, through the good and bad times.

This same questions applies to Piccs.

You mean like ferguson?

Because that is a once in a generation manager. It is a freak. Every other club operates the way you mention because that is the reality of life in elite football, or for that matter any other results driven business.

Managers are paid for results, if they dont deliver them, they are moved on.