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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby DoomMerchant » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:58 pm

avoidconfusion wrote: everytime I think about last summer's transfer window fiasco and how much it fucked up our season my blood starts to boil.


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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby SmallTimeCharlie » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:47 pm

We played sublime football yesterday.
The little touches from Nasri, Tevez, Dzeko, Yaya, Barry, amd most of all Silva were just joyous to watch.
Yes we were only playing Barnsley, but we would have outplayed any team on the planet playing like that.
It wasn't just tiki-taka, we played long balls, unexpected acute diagonals to the 'second' man, crosses, as well as the quick one-twos through the middle.
It was even better than alot of last years' cream-inducing showings.
Scott Sinclair showed yesterday that he is nowhere near this level of football.
Yes, he has been given very few chances; yes, his confidence may be knocked, but it matters not:
He is nowhere near good enough for a trophy-chasing side. Just obvious. We knew it before we signed him -
possibly the most underwhelming signing of the last 4 years.
Sorry, he should be sold to someone shit like Liverpool in the summer, and we can get someone useful in,
like a better pie-maker or something.
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby freshie » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:15 pm

Some of the commments on this thread are very harsh on SS to say the least. He has hardly featured for us this season, so his confidence and match fitness are nowhere near where they should be. He has shown that he is a good Premier League player, as shown last season for Swansea. Mancini has ruined his season by refusing to select him and has admitted so himself in an interview a few weeks ago. To judge him on a handful of substitute appearances is premature and unfair
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby freshie » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:29 pm

twosips wrote:Thank god for Ted's post.

When Sinclair came on yesterday you could actually see how eager he was to make an impression. His work rate was exceptional. He was running around like a headless chicken. He just barely got a touch - and when he did get a touch he understandably probs tried to do a bit too much. It's not his fault. He probably can't remember what its like to be on a football pitch at the moment. It's impossible to judge him when he's barely played 90 minutes all year.

I personally think that if he was used as an impact sub a lot more frequently he'd actually probably do a half decent job.


He impressed me with his workrate too. I would rather Mancini had started Sinclair over Nasri, who can do one in the summer as far as I'm concerned, yesterday
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:37 pm

SmallTimeCharlie wrote:We played sublime football yesterday.
The little touches from Nasri, Tevez, Dzeko, Yaya, Barry, amd most of all Silva were just joyous to watch.
Yes we were only playing Barnsley, but we would have outplayed any team on the planet playing like that.
It wasn't just tiki-taka, we played long balls, unexpected acute diagonals to the 'second' man, crosses, as well as the quick one-twos through the middle.
It was even better than alot of last years' cream-inducing showings.
Scott Sinclair showed yesterday that he is nowhere near this level of football.
Yes, he has been given very few chances; yes, his confidence may be knocked, but it matters not:
He is nowhere near good enough for a trophy-chasing side. Just obvious. We knew it before we signed him -
possibly the most underwhelming signing of the last 4 years.
Sorry, he should be sold to someone shit like Liverpool in the summer, and we can get someone useful in,
like a better pie-maker or something.


And what exactly was it in Scott's play that convinced you that he was playing to his optimum level in that game & would be incapable of playing better ?
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby SmallTimeCharlie » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:13 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
SmallTimeCharlie wrote:We played sublime football yesterday.
The little touches from Nasri, Tevez, Dzeko, Yaya, Barry, amd most of all Silva were just joyous to watch.
Yes we were only playing Barnsley, but we would have outplayed any team on the planet playing like that.
It wasn't just tiki-taka, we played long balls, unexpected acute diagonals to the 'second' man, crosses, as well as the quick one-twos through the middle.
It was even better than alot of last years' cream-inducing showings.
Scott Sinclair showed yesterday that he is nowhere near this level of football.
Yes, he has been given very few chances; yes, his confidence may be knocked, but it matters not:
He is nowhere near good enough for a trophy-chasing side. Just obvious. We knew it before we signed him -
possibly the most underwhelming signing of the last 4 years.
Sorry, he should be sold to someone shit like Liverpool in the summer, and we can get someone useful in,
like a better pie-maker or something.


And what exactly was it in Scott's play that convinced you that he was playing to his optimum level in that game & would be incapable of playing better ?


Mostly, his complete inability to link up with any of his team-mates and keep the move flowing. He got tackled or intercepted every time. Chose the wrong option almost every time, and has every time he's played for us - runs on when he should turn and pass, though I remember one bit of play yesterday when he made some progress down the right, got blocked off, and did manage to pass it back to a team-mate safely. One. Then the rest of the team mostly chose any other route forward. Didn't matter at 4-0.

Look, I completely agree with you - he's nowhere near his best, he lacks confidence and match sharpness, but I also know that even if he had these things, he would still be nowhere near an intelligent or skilful enough player for us.
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby Goataldo » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:54 pm

SmallTimeCharlie wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
SmallTimeCharlie wrote:We played sublime football yesterday.
The little touches from Nasri, Tevez, Dzeko, Yaya, Barry, amd most of all Silva were just joyous to watch.
Yes we were only playing Barnsley, but we would have outplayed any team on the planet playing like that.
It wasn't just tiki-taka, we played long balls, unexpected acute diagonals to the 'second' man, crosses, as well as the quick one-twos through the middle.
It was even better than alot of last years' cream-inducing showings.
Scott Sinclair showed yesterday that he is nowhere near this level of football.
Yes, he has been given very few chances; yes, his confidence may be knocked, but it matters not:
He is nowhere near good enough for a trophy-chasing side. Just obvious. We knew it before we signed him -
possibly the most underwhelming signing of the last 4 years.
Sorry, he should be sold to someone shit like Liverpool in the summer, and we can get someone useful in,
like a better pie-maker or something.


And what exactly was it in Scott's play that convinced you that he was playing to his optimum level in that game & would be incapable of playing better ?


Mostly, his complete inability to link up with any of his team-mates and keep the move flowing. He got tackled or intercepted every time. Chose the wrong option almost every time, and has every time he's played for us - runs on when he should turn and pass, though I remember one bit of play yesterday when he made some progress down the right, got blocked off, and did manage to pass it back to a team-mate safely. One. Then the rest of the team mostly chose any other route forward. Didn't matter at 4-0.

Look, I completely agree with you - he's nowhere near his best, he lacks confidence and match sharpness, but I also know that even if he had these things, he would still be nowhere near an intelligent or skilful enough player for us.


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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby freshie » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:09 pm

SmallTimeCharlie wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
SmallTimeCharlie wrote:We played sublime football yesterday.
The little touches from Nasri, Tevez, Dzeko, Yaya, Barry, amd most of all Silva were just joyous to watch.
Yes we were only playing Barnsley, but we would have outplayed any team on the planet playing like that.
It wasn't just tiki-taka, we played long balls, unexpected acute diagonals to the 'second' man, crosses, as well as the quick one-twos through the middle.
It was even better than alot of last years' cream-inducing showings.
Scott Sinclair showed yesterday that he is nowhere near this level of football.
Yes, he has been given very few chances; yes, his confidence may be knocked, but it matters not:
He is nowhere near good enough for a trophy-chasing side. Just obvious. We knew it before we signed him -
possibly the most underwhelming signing of the last 4 years.
Sorry, he should be sold to someone shit like Liverpool in the summer, and we can get someone useful in,
like a better pie-maker or something.


And what exactly was it in Scott's play that convinced you that he was playing to his optimum level in that game & would be incapable of playing better ?



Mostly, his complete inability to link up with any of his team-mates and keep the move flowing. He got tackled or intercepted every time. Chose the wrong option almost every time, and has every time he's played for us - runs on when he should turn and pass, though I remember one bit of play yesterday when he made some progress down the right, got blocked off, and did manage to pass it back to a team-mate safely. One. Then the rest of the team mostly chose any other route forward. Didn't matter at 4-0.

Look, I completely agree with you - he's nowhere near his best, he lacks confidence and match sharpness, but I also know that even if he had these things, he would still be nowhere near an intelligent or skilful enough player for us.


How do you know that when you haven't seen him at his best in a City shirt?
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:14 pm

Complete waste of a squad number. Whichever scout filled in the dossier and whoever sanctioned the signing should be having their collar felt by the owner. His value has gone down faster than Wayne Bridge's.
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:20 pm

freshie wrote:
How do you know that when you haven't seen him at his best in a City shirt?


He's a Swansea fan, get him!

On a more serious note I agree with those who say that there is little proof in either direction regarding Sinclair's abilities. Actually, for those of you who think you've seen enough of Sinclair to be ready to discard him, I feel you have a pretty heavy burden on you in the form of providing evidence. And this proof has to be beyond stuff that generally are exhibited by players who are brought in late during the window or hasn't featured a lot during the season.

Either you are football geniuses or you've prematurely turned your back on a player who's done nothing to deserve your lack of belief. It's time to let your true colours shine!
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby Wooders » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:26 pm

he must be gutted he left Swansea this season - he was fantastic for them and I am surprised that he hasn't had more chances here
players need time playing real games with their teammates, unfortunately we're at too high a level to afford him that
I reckon he'll go back to Swansea this summer, part of me hopes he does, I feel sorry for him
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby bleedBlue » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:32 pm

Hazy2 wrote:He has been ruined by us. whatever he had we have mishandled it and I feel sorry for him, as he as caused no issue for US.


Whenever i see him, be it in the training clips on the OS or on the pitch, he seems to lack confidence.. "Like what am I doing here, these guys are better than me".. Until he gets over that, we will not see the best of him... I really had high hopes for him...
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:21 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
He's a Swansea fan, get him!

On a more serious note I agree with those who say that there is little proof in either direction regarding Sinclair's abilities. Actually, for those of you who think you've seen enough of Sinclair to be ready to discard him, I feel you have a pretty heavy burden on you in the form of providing evidence. And this proof has to be beyond stuff that generally are exhibited by players who are brought in late during the window or hasn't featured a lot during the season.

Either you are football geniuses or you've prematurely turned your back on a player who's done nothing to deserve your lack of belief. It's time to let your true colours shine!


So a player who's been here since August; isn't new to the PL; is living with his girlfriend rather than away from her; and has been trusted for about 2 hours in total by the manager and in that time has given us nothing and yet those who think he might not be good enough for a top two side need to provide the evidence?

Odd, but I'll call Mancini as my first witness.
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:30 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
So a player who's been here since August; isn't new to the PL; is living with his girlfriend rather than away from her; and has been trusted for about 2 hours in total by the manager and in that time has given us nothing and yet those who think he might not be good enough for a top two side need to provide the evidence?

Odd, but I'll call Mancini as my first witness.


I noticed that you provided no evidence there. Have another go!
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby SmallTimeCharlie » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:32 pm

We wanted Eden Hazard. Fast, tricky, confident, goalscorer; young, unpolished, but hungry & clearly talented.

We didn't get him. We really, really didn't.
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:35 pm

Not every single player inthe squad can be David Silva class.

Sinclair certainly won't be, but some of the stuff about all these technical things he can't do, is bollocks. He played pass & move football at Chelsea & at Swansea.

The question is; can he be effective as a squad player ? We can never know that if he never gets chance to bed in.
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby freshie » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:48 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
He's a Swansea fan, get him!

On a more serious note I agree with those who say that there is little proof in either direction regarding Sinclair's abilities. Actually, for those of you who think you've seen enough of Sinclair to be ready to discard him, I feel you have a pretty heavy burden on you in the form of providing evidence. And this proof has to be beyond stuff that generally are exhibited by players who are brought in late during the window or hasn't featured a lot during the season.

Either you are football geniuses or you've prematurely turned your back on a player who's done nothing to deserve your lack of belief. It's time to let your true colours shine!


So a player who's been here since August; isn't new to the PL; is living with his girlfriend rather than away from her; and has been trusted for about 2 hours in total by the manager and in that time has given us nothing and yet those who think he might not be good enough for a top two side need to provide the evidence?

Odd, but I'll call Mancini as my first witness.


So your first witness is the man who signed him? OK
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:50 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:
I noticed that you provided no evidence there. Have another go!


Tell you what, why don't you provide some evidence from his time at City of some positive things he's done which make you think he could be a valuable member of the squad. A goal maybe, or an assist, or even a time when he beat a fullback.
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby freshie » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:33 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:
I noticed that you provided no evidence there. Have another go!


Tell you what, why don't you provide some evidence from his time at City of some positive things he's done which make you think he could be a valuable member of the squad. A goal maybe, or an assist, or even a time when he beat a fullback.


Cos that'd be really fair. He's only played a total of about 180 minutes, if that, for us. I seem to remember he beat the Villa fullback on a few occasions during the 5-0 home win against them
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Re: Underwhelmed By Scott Sinclair Yesterday

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:01 pm

freshie wrote:
Cos that'd be really fair. He's only played a total of about 180 minutes, if that, for us. I seem to remember he beat the Villa fullback on a few occasions during the 5-0 home win against them


As I keep saying tho, he's not even beaten a single player in that time.

Throw AJ on for 15 mins and hell run at a fullback. Put Sinclair on and he'll chat up the corner flag.
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