Summer Clear Out

[Beefymcfc]

Jesus how spoilt are we becoming. Second in the league, in semis of fa cup and people are calling for a brand fire sale. Odd. One or two may go, one or two may come in but that should be normal for any teams development. A mass sale would mean selling for a lot less than we paid and remember who we buy we pay a 'city' premium.

What we just need is a few players to give there all week in week out rather than just the game the choose to turn it on for.

Yes there are times when I am baffled and yes for sure question some of Mancini tactics. Though we all read Dougs reports the players seem train well. Its just keeping up that momentum for 90 mins in a game.

But no lets get rid of half a squad cause we arent running away with the league. Odd

Totally agree mate.

[Peter Doherty (AGAIG)]

Mario and Dzeko out = £35m and £300k per week

RSC, Bridge, Kolo, Maicon = £380k per week

Lescott, Barry = £8m and £150k per week

Other possibles

Nasri and Tevez = £30m and £350k per week

So we should have an exciting summer, without further funds we could have £73m and £1.2m per week to spend.

And no players.

but you see peter, you can buy players - thats how the transfer window works

insightful.

[Wooders]

Tevez Lescott Kolo & Barry all leaving would be quite a break up of the spine of the team imo.

If that was to happen, we would have to hope that their replacements were bloody good & took to Premier League football very quickly, or we would be in for a season that makes this one look like the rags' treble year.

I don't agree - I think all of those players, and a few more (Dzeko, kolorov, nasri) are expendable - and I can think of several replacements who would be interested in coming and would be an upgrade to them all
I might be swayed into keeping Barry as he's a total professional with tons of experience and would have a general positive contribution to the squad - however I would see an additional player fill his position alongside yaya

[Beefymcfc]

Can anybody see some of our 'Big' players going such as Yaya, Silva or Sergio?

[Wooders]

Can anybody see some of our 'Big' players going such as Yaya, Silva or Sergio?

don't think so with yaya - silva and sergio I am less convinced by however - the lure of playing for real madrid for spanish/south american players is pretty powerful - so if they come calling, we could be in trouble

[Beefymcfc]

Can anybody see some of our 'Big' players going such as Yaya, Silva or Sergio?

don't think so with yaya - silva and sergio I am less convinced by however - the lure of playing for real madrid for spanish/south american players is pretty powerful - so if they come calling, we could be in trouble

One thing the club do have to look at is the wage bill so if somebody does come calling then I can see them being interested. We'll be looking at keeping certain quality players and paying them good money but I think gone are the days where we need to lure people in with over the top contracts.

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

Why would anyone get rid of Tevez? He's been the standout for most of the season.

Agree with what other peogle have said re volume. Though a lot get excited about transfer rumors half our squad will not be leaving.

If I could pick one place to improve it has to be midfield so, personally, I would get rid of a few from there. Most of what we have are too old, too slow or too shit. In some cases all three.

[City64]

Can anybody see some of our 'Big' players going such as Yaya, Silva or Sergio?

Deffo Beefy. It is possible that at least one of them will be moving on this summer. It is also very possible several mindblowing transfers could be heading to the Etihad ....... infact anything is possible ! :)

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

To illustrate further, the average number of points for champions in 20-team Premier League era is 85.41 - Even if you took the median of 87, we'd still be in the hunt more years than not. We just have to say too good/ too lucky/ bit of both this year and prepare for next year. Scum finished 18 points off Chelsea one year they didn't panic. The key is not to panic and take it in our stride. Last 5 minutes of 2 games went wrong and set the tone for the season, Real Madrid away and the Scum at our place. With a lack of squad depth and bad luck with injuries we have failed to get into full flow, we are still in with a chance of silverware though and there is more to come from this squad as players settle in or recover from injury. A big clear out isn't the answer.

Is three points usually enough to go close in a Champions League group too?

You don't think that impacted the whole campaign? My summer clearout would start with twats like you.

Ok fuckflaps. I answered your apologist post with a flippant remark to make a point.
But here's the rub. We haven't competed this year in the slightest. The Real Madrid game was a defining game, but not in the way you're hinting at. We went to Madrid and were set up to lose, and unsurprisingly lost. We played like frightened men. They absolutely took us to the cleaners and should have been five up by half time, the fact they weren't was almost entirely down to Joe Hart playing out of his skin.
When discussing games that defined are season, you should include are, Sunderland , Ajax , Liverpool , Stoke and West Ham all away. Games where we have struggled and stuttered our way to poor results without ever looking like winning, when we should have done. They are ultimately what has cost us this season.
It is a nonsense to talk of a weak squad and injuries, because we have the most expensive squad in the Premier League. We haven't had a freakishly long injury list and even yesterday still fielded a team littered with international players. A forward pairing costing over fifty milllion and probably earning 350k a week between them. A defence that cost tens of millions and again paid some of the highest wages in the league. We fielded players that other clubs could only dream of having. So that is a load of bullshit excuses.
The reason for this season's poor effort is Bob. That's it, get used to it.

[Herb]

Yes I think there's sense in Tevez leaving. Regardless of the fact that he's been perhaps our most influential forward this season - he doesn't have too long left on his contract and it will be good to get a half-decent price for him to fund a replacement.
Aguero? I'm not too sure. He's not met his promise as yet, I thought he was improving towards the end of last season but this season he's been pretty crap to be honest - always hard working - always has it in him to score an amazing goal but has rarely scored. In his defence though his injuries this season are bound to have been a major contribution to his poor record and I expect the club to keep him because he's young - still has promise and he's the poster boy.
Dzeko? I'm sorry to say it but while Edin has improved in our system, he's never going to be anything other than awkward without crosses raining in on him and he doesn't have the fight in him to take the rough stuff and scrap it out. He'll do well in germany but, but imho, he'll never settle properly into the prem.

Nasri? Not a happy bunny so let's let him go. Silva? He's pure class but looking tired so often nowadays - we need to bring another 'silvaesque' player so that we can rotate and keep him fresh which is what he is when at his brilliant best.

Elsewhere, Kolo is prime to depart but I'd like to see him kept because, despite his age, he's still a class act and could be a cost effective retention. Garci? Not every fans favourite player but I think he's good and getting better so keep him.
Barry is a goer for me. He's had his good times but I think they're mostly behind him now as is the case with JL.
Maicon? Hard to judge as he's not had a run in the team but he's not a youngster so can't be one for the future anyhow.
Sinclair? I've not seen anything special in him as yet but can only presume he was bought as one for development so either develop him or push him out the nest.

So, according to my logic we'll lose Carlos & Edin this summer. Kolo will be kept as defensive cover but Barry and Lescott will go. Maicon and Sinclair are likely to depart and Bridge and crock will be gone as their contracts will be finished.
That's at least 6 and more likely 8 to go this summer with say 4 top class players coming in and, I hope, a few of the EDS moving up.

If things stay as they are though it won't break my heart because we have a very competitive squad as it is and I think we'll do well next season especially without the ACoN to deal with.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

I can't see a mass clear out somehow and I don't think it would be a good idea anyway.

Do we really want to get rid of Barry and Lescott. Maybe they are not the top leading players we need to move forward but aren't they exactly what we need in the squad.Really good experienced players who can do a good job when drafted in to give the "first team" a break.Maybe the pertinent question is whether such players would be happy to stay if their expected role is diminished.I would put Carlos in this category as well.For me he is still quality and if it's true that he is now enjoying Manchester he would be great to have in the squad.

I get the feeling both would.Others like Sinclair should go as they need to make a career playing somewhere at their true standard. Kolarov I would be happy to see go and maybe Edin but that might be it for me.We could go out and get the real deal striker,another star midfield attacking goalscorer and a couple of top defenders

I take your point Doug, you talk sense. However, the wages they are commanding as 'squad players' may mean they have to go. Will they accept less money and a diminished role are the questions that will decide their future. Money matters.

[Beefymcfc]

I wonder if Kolo will be extending ;-)

I think there might be a good chance that Lescott will force a move as he has been pushed back down the pecking order whereas I can see Gaz Baz renegoiating a new but reduced contract to see out his years at City. I wouldn't mind him moving behind the scenes either as his knowledge of play is exceptional, it has to be with that pace.

The big question is, who is willing to move from their excellent salary? I think Dzeko is in this mould as he will want to be playing as a star striker again, he's put enough away in the bank now. And players like Milner, does he want to be playing a portion of the games when he is still in contention for the England jersey, I can see him going somewhere like Liverpool.

Either way, we'll see a few ins and outs this summer and it couldn't come sooner.

[edgeley blue]

I would get rid of the lot of them and bring back Richard Dunne, SWP,Joey Barton,Nedum,Danny Mills, Ben Thatcher etc... because we did really well with them didnt we?

[Wooders]

I would get rid of the lot of them and bring back Richard Dunne, SWP,Joey Barton,Nedum,Danny Mills, Ben Thatcher etc... because we did really well with them didnt we?

3rd place and an FA cup?

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

Pretty funny how everyone always uses the team circa 2004 as the barometer of what the team is now.

[edgeley blue]

All that im saying is that over the 36 years I've been going, I have never had it so good. It,s been a pleasure to watch this City side bar the odd hiccup. In the old days them hiccups were very regular and the players on show werent as good as the ones we are watching now. Of course the squad needs refreshing, but a couple in and a couple out is all that needs to be done. The players we have need to gain their confidence and try and stay injury free and I do believe Bobby will bring us the title next season.

[kennyboy]

Maicon, Sinclair, Nasri, Lescott, Kolarov, Dzeko.

[Sideshow Bob]

Maicon, Sinclair, Nasri, Lescott, Kolarov, Dzeko.

Agree with all except lescott. Think he's worth more to us as a squad player than we'd get from selling him.

[Blue Since 76]

Defence
Kolo is one who was nailed on to go, but I could now see staying, if he'd accept a realistic wage as a squad player.

I could see Lescott going, as Mancini doesn't rate him so it may depend on whether he'll accept lower wages just to play.

Kolarov will go.

Richards - I could see Mancini selling him due to his injury record. Not sure it's a good idea, but I could see it.

Maicon - how long was his contract? If it was only a year, gone please.

From that lot, we need a new left back and one or two centre halves. I could see us bringing in younger players like Nastasic, although it's a risk if Kompany gets injured again.

Midfield
Sinclair should probably go, for his own good if nothing else

Nasri should go - just not brought enough to a side for a £24m player. Not brought enough for a £2.4m player, to be honest.

We need two quick players, preferably wingers. Players who can be our alternative plan to actually stretch teams who don't want to come out an play.

Forwards
Mario was sold to guarantee we had space to bring one in, regardless of who goes and, more importantly, when.

Dzeko seems odds on to go to Germany

Tevez - who knows.

I could see us starting September with Aguero, Tevez, Guidetti and a new one (Cavani/Falcao etc). The sale of Mario and Edin virtually pays for one of them and the wages would more than cover it.

[mr_nool]

The only player I think is really sub-standard is Kolarov. I really want to see him go. Apart from him Sinclair is the only one I would like to see the back off, but that's more for the lads own sake. I don't think he will ever make it with City, but he's too young to be a bit part player.