I Just Blue Myself wrote:
There's loads of posters trying to find excuses tho (Bob elbowing him in the chest first etc.). For me "showing bottle" means pushing back (which he did prior to the stamp), giving shit, scoring goals, playing hard but fair... not trying to injure players who are already on the ground.
zuricity wrote:Im_Spartacus wrote:
The ref saw Adebayor on van persie a few years back, that got a retrospective ban cos the ref claimed he didnt see it even though he gave a foul
It's fairly honest of the ref in reality to say he saw it, he could easily claim to have missed it which would be less of a problem for his career than seeing it and doing nothing
At first i thought this thread was a rude reference to the lads "Tackle"
I Just Blue Myself wrote:
There's loads of posters trying to find excuses tho (Bob elbowing him in the chest first etc.). For me "showing bottle" means pushing back (which he did prior to the stamp), giving shit, scoring goals, playing hard but fair... not trying to injure players who are already on the ground.
zuricity wrote:I Just Blue Myself wrote:
There's loads of posters trying to find excuses tho (Bob elbowing him in the chest first etc.). For me "showing bottle" means pushing back (which he did prior to the stamp), giving shit, scoring goals, playing hard but fair... not trying to injure players who are already on the ground.
Er .... pushing back , or Elbowing back is also a foul and could easily be seen as a red card offense. Elbow to the face for sxample , re Joey Barton. Sideshow Bob isn't a hardman , he's a coward, like Keane, Barton , Norman Hunter was.
Lee_R wrote:Maybe the FA just love Augero. Hes normally a model pro and a great advert for the English game. Or maybe like me.. they just saw that Luiz dived under his feet ;)
zuricity wrote:I Just Blue Myself wrote:
There's loads of posters trying to find excuses tho (Bob elbowing him in the chest first etc.). For me "showing bottle" means pushing back (which he did prior to the stamp), giving shit, scoring goals, playing hard but fair... not trying to injure players who are already on the ground.
Er .... pushing back , or Elbowing back is also a foul and could easily be seen as a red card offense. Elbow to the face for sxample , re Joey Barton. Sideshow Bob isn't a hardman , he's a coward, like Keane, Barton , Norman Hunter was.
DoomMerchant wrote:it's really bad and embarrassing. You can't say it's not anything but a straight red if you are an honest football fan.
I'm glad we've got the rub of the green for a change i suppose in avoiding a ban, but karma is a bitch which means we'll get fucked over when we least deserve it.
Kun was a little edgy vs the filth last week as well for a bit. I'm glad he's got his temper flaring and he's up for it, but he needs to chillax a teeny bit. And keep scoring. :)
cheers
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I Just Blue Myself wrote:
That's why I didn't mention elbowing. Pushing with your shoulder or arse or even hands might get you a foul, but never a red card, at least not on this planet.
You are right about the cowards, tho. Elbowing in the face, targeting knees & ankles, stamping on players lying on the ground... all cowardly acts, which is why I don't want our players acting like that.
I realise it was a one-off from Aguero, I certainly can't remember any other similar incident involving him & have only heard good things from Spain. Same goes for diving, he's really one of the most sportsmanlike forwards in the game. With his talent & reputation & all the shit he has to cope with every game, that's no small feat. And I get it, he was frustrated & lost his cool, it happens to the best of us.
However, it was what it was, we were lucky he didn't walk for it & I'd rather not see it again.
DoomMerchant wrote:but karma is a bitch which means we'll get fucked over when we least deserve it.
hyper wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:but karma is a bitch which means we'll get fucked over when we least deserve it.
Or rather this is finally a bit of positive karma to balance out all the negativity that we've faced? I think we've already been fucked over plenty.
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:hyper wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:but karma is a bitch which means we'll get fucked over when we least deserve it.
Or rather this is finally a bit of positive karma to balance out all the negativity that we've faced? I think we've already been fucked over plenty.
Exactly. I don't get why this is embarrasing for anyone either. The lad gets wound up having been elbowed and body checked all game and he eventually snaps, everyone has their breaking point, stop being so precious.
zuricity wrote:Dwaring wrote:
No ones saying they want it but its pretty obvious what's going to happen. Sorry I back city with all my heart but I'm not back that stamp. It was an embarrassment to the club. There's no place for that in the game.
I find it difficult to criticise our striker when Luis had been after him all game. when Luis decided to Lunge at him , when closer to the ball, with his elbow in Kuns chest, both collided and for me Kun showed remarkable balance and determination to attempt to stay on his two feet. Unfortunately he landed on his two feet on the overturned and bent double body of the out of control and crazed defender that David Luis is.
Kuns landing can't be seen in isolation from the overall incident. Sideshow bobs Elbow to Kuns body brought about the rest of the actions and reactions. If ssb hadn't used his elbow Kun would have been first to the ball.
Unlike Rooney's viscious and unnecessary lung at Jimmy or Torres's deliberate rake on Kun , Kun was not the initiator of an attack on a player.
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