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Re: pellegrini

Postby zuricity » Tue May 14, 2013 10:28 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:Pellegrini oooh-oh
Pellegrini oooh-oh
He's come from the Costa del Sol
To a two-restaurant hell-hole


The waterboy, gets promoted to manager at city.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Crossie » Tue May 14, 2013 10:29 am

49% win record in his managerial career,

Propped up massively by 75% during a year at Madrid.

If Barca appointed him, I really wouldn't be scared.

He is average.

We are making a mistake.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 14, 2013 10:32 am

Crossie wrote:49% win record in his managerial career,

Propped up massively by 75% during a year at Madrid.

If Barca appointed him, I really wouldn't be scared.

He is average.

We are making a mistake.


That's precisely it. It's possible that he learned from his fuck up with Real and has all of the sudden learned how to make squad assembled with top dollar into functioning TEAM but i think this time next year when we are replacing him with some other puppet he will be moaning the exact same thing as he did when he was appointed in Madrid and got Tranny, Alonso and Benzema (who he couldn't use AT ALL). He didn't get the right kind of players.

He will take us further in Champion's League though. Maybe even quarterfinals. And that's the most important competition thre is for these new breed of fans.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Original Dub » Tue May 14, 2013 10:36 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Crossie wrote:49% win record in his managerial career,

Propped up massively by 75% during a year at Madrid.

If Barca appointed him, I really wouldn't be scared.

He is average.

We are making a mistake.


That's precisely it. It's possible that he learned from his fuck up with Real and has all of the sudden learned how to make squad assembled with top dollar into functioning TEAM but i think this time next year when we are replacing him with some other puppet he will be moaning the exact same thing as he did when he was appointed in Madrid and got Tranny, Alonso and Benzema (who he couldn't use AT ALL). He didn't get the right kind of players.

He will take us further in Champion's League though. Maybe even quarterfinals. And that's the most important competition thre is for these new breed of fans.


His "fuck up" with Real??

Listen, I'm not saying this guy is definitely going to be a success if he comes, but that statement is bordering on simple.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby john68 » Tue May 14, 2013 10:39 am

Speculation, speculation, speculation....

The straight fact is that we have no manager. We THINK we have a replacement with Pellegrini but City have issued no statement and Pellegrini himself has denied it.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Original Dub » Tue May 14, 2013 10:41 am

Fuck it, just get Jose and let's win more trophies.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 14, 2013 10:42 am

Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Crossie wrote:49% win record in his managerial career,

Propped up massively by 75% during a year at Madrid.

If Barca appointed him, I really wouldn't be scared.

He is average.

We are making a mistake.


That's precisely it. It's possible that he learned from his fuck up with Real and has all of the sudden learned how to make squad assembled with top dollar into functioning TEAM but i think this time next year when we are replacing him with some other puppet he will be moaning the exact same thing as he did when he was appointed in Madrid and got Tranny, Alonso and Benzema (who he couldn't use AT ALL). He didn't get the right kind of players.

He will take us further in Champion's League though. Maybe even quarterfinals. And that's the most important competition thre is for these new breed of fans.


His "fuck up" with Real??

Listen, I'm not saying this guy is definitely going to be a success if he comes, but that statement is bordering on simple.


Would you agree that not winning a trophy with club like Real should always be considered failure? I would. And apparently people in Real Madrid organization agreed so. Pretty simply innit? People were saying the exact same thing about Mancini with us this season and he didn't get Ronaldo, Alonso and Benzema delivered to him, now did he. Pretty simplistic but clearly the nature of the beast in big clubs these days.

Don't get me wrong by the way, I will give this guy fair crack at the whip, I'm just saying that he has been in this situation before and failed to meet the expectations. That is not matter of opinion but a fact.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 14, 2013 10:43 am

john68 wrote:Speculation, speculation, speculation....

The straight fact is that we have no manager. We THINK we have a replacement with Pellegrini but City have issued no statement and Pellegrini himself has denied it.


That's an excellent point by the way mate. How many tiems we have seen this with other clubs (and even ours). Someone touted as "guaranteed" doesn't end up coming after all. Fact of the matter is that we don't have a manager right now.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Original Dub » Tue May 14, 2013 10:45 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Crossie wrote:49% win record in his managerial career,

Propped up massively by 75% during a year at Madrid.

If Barca appointed him, I really wouldn't be scared.

He is average.

We are making a mistake.


That's precisely it. It's possible that he learned from his fuck up with Real and has all of the sudden learned how to make squad assembled with top dollar into functioning TEAM but i think this time next year when we are replacing him with some other puppet he will be moaning the exact same thing as he did when he was appointed in Madrid and got Tranny, Alonso and Benzema (who he couldn't use AT ALL). He didn't get the right kind of players.

He will take us further in Champion's League though. Maybe even quarterfinals. And that's the most important competition thre is for these new breed of fans.


His "fuck up" with Real??

Listen, I'm not saying this guy is definitely going to be a success if he comes, but that statement is bordering on simple.


Would you agree that not winning a trophy with club like Real should always be considered failure? I would. And apparently people in Real Madrid organization agreed so. Pretty simply innit? People were saying the exact same thing about Mancini with us this season and he didn't get Ronaldo, Alonso and Benzema delivered to him, now did he. Pretty simplistic but clearly the nature of the beast in big clubs these days.

Don't get me wrong by the way, I will give this guy fair crack at the whip, I'm just saying that he has been in this situation before and failed to meet the expectations. That is not matter of opinion but a fact.


He had half the team arrive in one go mate and they were one classico away from beating one of the best teams ever to the league. That is not a fuck up.

A fuck up is something like what Mancini did this season, when we were supposed to kick on and regressed.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 14, 2013 10:48 am

Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Crossie wrote:49% win record in his managerial career,

Propped up massively by 75% during a year at Madrid.

If Barca appointed him, I really wouldn't be scared.

He is average.

We are making a mistake.


That's precisely it. It's possible that he learned from his fuck up with Real and has all of the sudden learned how to make squad assembled with top dollar into functioning TEAM but i think this time next year when we are replacing him with some other puppet he will be moaning the exact same thing as he did when he was appointed in Madrid and got Tranny, Alonso and Benzema (who he couldn't use AT ALL). He didn't get the right kind of players.

He will take us further in Champion's League though. Maybe even quarterfinals. And that's the most important competition thre is for these new breed of fans.


His "fuck up" with Real??

Listen, I'm not saying this guy is definitely going to be a success if he comes, but that statement is bordering on simple.


Would you agree that not winning a trophy with club like Real should always be considered failure? I would. And apparently people in Real Madrid organization agreed so. Pretty simply innit? People were saying the exact same thing about Mancini with us this season and he didn't get Ronaldo, Alonso and Benzema delivered to him, now did he. Pretty simplistic but clearly the nature of the beast in big clubs these days.

Don't get me wrong by the way, I will give this guy fair crack at the whip, I'm just saying that he has been in this situation before and failed to meet the expectations. That is not matter of opinion but a fact.


He had half the team arrive in one go mate and they were one classico away from beating one of the best teams ever to the league. That is not a fuck up.

A fuck up is something like what Mancini did this season, when we were supposed to kick on and regressed.


By standards set for him he fucked up. Were standards fair? I don't know. Fact is though that he won NOTHING with them just like with any team he has managed in Europe. Not single Cup or anything.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Mike J » Tue May 14, 2013 10:49 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Crossie wrote:49% win record in his managerial career,

Propped up massively by 75% during a year at Madrid.

If Barca appointed him, I really wouldn't be scared.

He is average.

We are making a mistake.


That's precisely it. It's possible that he learned from his fuck up with Real and has all of the sudden learned how to make squad assembled with top dollar into functioning TEAM but i think this time next year when we are replacing him with some other puppet he will be moaning the exact same thing as he did when he was appointed in Madrid and got Tranny, Alonso and Benzema (who he couldn't use AT ALL). He didn't get the right kind of players.

He will take us further in Champion's League though. Maybe even quarterfinals. And that's the most important competition thre is for these new breed of fans.


His "fuck up" with Real??

Listen, I'm not saying this guy is definitely going to be a success if he comes, but that statement is bordering on simple.


Would you agree that not winning a trophy with club like Real should always be considered failure? I would. And apparently people in Real Madrid organization agreed so. Pretty simply innit? People were saying the exact same thing about Mancini with us this season and he didn't get Ronaldo, Alonso and Benzema delivered to him, now did he. Pretty simplistic but clearly the nature of the beast in big clubs these days.

Don't get me wrong by the way, I will give this guy fair crack at the whip, I'm just saying that he has been in this situation before and failed to meet the expectations. That is not matter of opinion but a fact.


Would you not consider not landing a trophy with our multi million ££ squad a failure and giving up the title like that?? I would.

Yet you seem to thing we are making a big mistake.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 14, 2013 10:51 am

Mike J wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Crossie wrote:49% win record in his managerial career,

Propped up massively by 75% during a year at Madrid.

If Barca appointed him, I really wouldn't be scared.

He is average.

We are making a mistake.


That's precisely it. It's possible that he learned from his fuck up with Real and has all of the sudden learned how to make squad assembled with top dollar into functioning TEAM but i think this time next year when we are replacing him with some other puppet he will be moaning the exact same thing as he did when he was appointed in Madrid and got Tranny, Alonso and Benzema (who he couldn't use AT ALL). He didn't get the right kind of players.

He will take us further in Champion's League though. Maybe even quarterfinals. And that's the most important competition thre is for these new breed of fans.


His "fuck up" with Real??

Listen, I'm not saying this guy is definitely going to be a success if he comes, but that statement is bordering on simple.


Would you agree that not winning a trophy with club like Real should always be considered failure? I would. And apparently people in Real Madrid organization agreed so. Pretty simply innit? People were saying the exact same thing about Mancini with us this season and he didn't get Ronaldo, Alonso and Benzema delivered to him, now did he. Pretty simplistic but clearly the nature of the beast in big clubs these days.

Don't get me wrong by the way, I will give this guy fair crack at the whip, I'm just saying that he has been in this situation before and failed to meet the expectations. That is not matter of opinion but a fact.


Would you not consider not landing a trophy with our multi million ££ squad a failure and giving up the title like that?? I would.

Yet you seem to thing we are making a big mistake.


Have I EVER ONCE claimed that this season didn't end up in failure? No. I think Mancini failed to meet the expectations. Of course I did. However unlike Pellegrini with Real, Mancini had more than met the expectations in all of his previous seasons so therefore he deserved the chance to fix that shit next year.

Let me put this other way. Tell me what Pellegrini has done to deserve that chance over Mancini?
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Original Dub » Tue May 14, 2013 10:55 am

Maybe his footballing philosophy and attitude fits better with the barca boys. Actually, that can't be a maybe, it's a definite.

Couple that with the fact that he apparently gets the best out of his players once he and they have had time, whereas our guy seemed to be on a mission to make sure not one player liked him by the time he was done with them.

That can be enough sometimes and it looks like it is in this case.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 14, 2013 10:59 am

Original Dub wrote:Maybe his footballing philosophy and attitude fits better with the barca boys. Actually, that can't be a maybe, it's a definite.

Couple that with the fact that he apparently gets the best out of his players once he and they have had time, whereas our guy seemed to be on a mission to make sure not one player liked him by the time he was done with them.

That can be enough sometimes and it looks like it is in this case.


How does it look so? Pellegrini hasn't done anything, good or bad, for us yet. He has not even signed yet!!!
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Hazy2 » Tue May 14, 2013 11:01 am

Socrates wrote:Don't give a stuff what managers have achieved at smaller clubs with smaller budgets, we need a manager who can cut it at the top level, nothing in Pellegrini's CV says that he can, he is a huge risk and with little upside given his age, Hope we look elsewhere!


Wenger's CV was what mate.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby sheblue » Tue May 14, 2013 11:02 am

can pellegrini speak english?
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Original Dub » Tue May 14, 2013 11:02 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Maybe his footballing philosophy and attitude fits better with the barca boys. Actually, that can't be a maybe, it's a definite.

Couple that with the fact that he apparently gets the best out of his players once he and they have had time, whereas our guy seemed to be on a mission to make sure not one player liked him by the time he was done with them.

That can be enough sometimes and it looks like it is in this case.


How does it look so? Pellegrini hasn't done anything, good or bad, for us yet. He has not even signed yet!!!


I realise that.

I also realise these barca boys don't sign someone and then have a look at how they fit with their own ideas. They have studied him for years and are obviously quite confident that he is a far better fit for them than Bob was.

That isn't my opinion, because I don't really know the chap. But we're not talking about my opinion.
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Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 14, 2013 11:20 am

Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Maybe his footballing philosophy and attitude fits better with the barca boys. Actually, that can't be a maybe, it's a definite.

Couple that with the fact that he apparently gets the best out of his players once he and they have had time, whereas our guy seemed to be on a mission to make sure not one player liked him by the time he was done with them.

That can be enough sometimes and it looks like it is in this case.


How does it look so? Pellegrini hasn't done anything, good or bad, for us yet. He has not even signed yet!!!


I realise that.

I also realise these barca boys don't sign someone and then have a look at how they fit with their own ideas. They have studied him for years and are obviously quite confident that he is a far better fit for them than Bob was.

That isn't my opinion, because I don't really know the chap. But we're not talking about my opinion.


Like I said earlier, I think that's the main reason for Mancini getting sack rather than the artificial reasons talked in press and among supporters like seasont that didn't go according to plan or some unhappy players. Barcelona boys want to run the Director of Football system and have head coach rather than old fashioned manager in charge.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue May 14, 2013 11:29 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Maybe his footballing philosophy and attitude fits better with the barca boys. Actually, that can't be a maybe, it's a definite.

Couple that with the fact that he apparently gets the best out of his players once he and they have had time, whereas our guy seemed to be on a mission to make sure not one player liked him by the time he was done with them.

That can be enough sometimes and it looks like it is in this case.


How does it look so? Pellegrini hasn't done anything, good or bad, for us yet. He has not even signed yet!!!


I realise that.

I also realise these barca boys don't sign someone and then have a look at how they fit with their own ideas. They have studied him for years and are obviously quite confident that he is a far better fit for them than Bob was.

That isn't my opinion, because I don't really know the chap. But we're not talking about my opinion.


Like I said earlier, I think that's the main reason for Mancini getting sack rather than the artificial reasons talked in press and among supporters like seasont that didn't go according to plan or some unhappy players. Barcelona boys want to run the Director of Football system and have head coach rather than old fashioned manager in charge.


The unhappy players bit is very very true I believe but I have never thought that Sheikh Mansour had in mind the kind of continued lavish spending we have seen so far. I recon they were hoping Mancini would come round to a similar way of thinking but his constant complaining about not getting a 28 year old 5th centre forward, etc allied to the fact that nobody seems to like him, has sadly sealed his fate.

Don't know if this bloke is the answer as I don't know if he's another Wenger who can't organise a defence, but we had to head down this road to change sooner rather than later imo, & Bob has indicated he won't change.
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Re: pellegrini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 14, 2013 11:49 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Maybe his footballing philosophy and attitude fits better with the barca boys. Actually, that can't be a maybe, it's a definite.

Couple that with the fact that he apparently gets the best out of his players once he and they have had time, whereas our guy seemed to be on a mission to make sure not one player liked him by the time he was done with them.

That can be enough sometimes and it looks like it is in this case.


How does it look so? Pellegrini hasn't done anything, good or bad, for us yet. He has not even signed yet!!!


I realise that.

I also realise these barca boys don't sign someone and then have a look at how they fit with their own ideas. They have studied him for years and are obviously quite confident that he is a far better fit for them than Bob was.

That isn't my opinion, because I don't really know the chap. But we're not talking about my opinion.


Like I said earlier, I think that's the main reason for Mancini getting sack rather than the artificial reasons talked in press and among supporters like seasont that didn't go according to plan or some unhappy players. Barcelona boys want to run the Director of Football system and have head coach rather than old fashioned manager in charge.


The unhappy players bit is very very true I believe but I have never thought that Sheikh Mansour had in mind the kind of continued lavish spending we have seen so far. I recon they were hoping Mancini would come round to a similar way of thinking but his constant complaining about not getting a 28 year old 5th centre forward, etc allied to the fact that nobody seems to like him, has sadly sealed his fate.

Don't know if this bloke is the answer as I don't know if he's another Wenger who can't organise a defence, but we had to head down this road to change sooner rather than later imo, & Bob has indicated he won't change.


To some extent you are making a fair point about Mancini not willing to change. He really never was that sort of character. He was manager of old breed who wanted to be in charge of everything, especially the player signings. Felt about the owners and execs like Clough used to did.... they are there to sign the checks. These Barcelona lads are going to run completely different sort of set up and probably completely different sort fo manager (or rather head coach) was needed for the system to work.

I would just be happier if we were aiming for really top quality manager.

But, if he is to sign for us then I'll back him fo so.
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