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Re: Summer transfer thread!

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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby ross.mcfc » Wed May 15, 2013 7:01 pm

Clowncrete wrote:We should get Alex McCarthy if Pants leaves. Everytime I have seen he has been impressive. He was immense against Liverpool and has been great against us so far. He is also fairly young and is English. Would be a great under-study to Hart.
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Why would he want to come and sit on our bench? To keep Sinclair company so he does not feel lonely when discussing putting money ahead of your career.

The number 2 keeper slot is a hard one to fill. You either have to get an experienced keeper at the end of his career looking for one last pay day or an unknown kid looking for a bit of big club experience like we did with Panto. The problem with taking an unknown is you are shitting bricks when he is called upon in a big game.

Someone like Thomas Sorensen or Jussi Jaaskelainen would be ideal.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Clowncrete » Wed May 15, 2013 7:12 pm

ross.mcfc wrote:
Clowncrete wrote:We should get Alex McCarthy if Pants leaves. Everytime I have seen he has been impressive. He was immense against Liverpool and has been great against us so far. He is also fairly young and is English. Would be a great under-study to Hart.
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Why would he want to come and sit on our bench? To keep Sinclair company so he does not feel lonely when discussing putting money ahead of your career.

The number 2 keeper slot is a hard one to fill. You either have to get an experienced keeper at the end of his career looking for one last pay day or an unknown kid looking for a bit of big club experience like we did with Panto. The problem with taking an unknown is you are shitting bricks when he is called upon in a big game.

Someone like Thomas Sorensen or Jussi Jaaskelainen would be ideal.


If he gets a chance to play for a big club, with a decent salary and a chance to win a couple of cups, he might be tempted. It could even help improve him, since he can get to work with Hart and good coaches. He could be the "unknown kid looking for big club experience".
(Although you can argue that since he plays in the PL, he does get exposure, but I haven't seen him hugely hyped or being connected with any other big club so far.)
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby ross.mcfc » Wed May 15, 2013 7:18 pm

Clowncrete wrote:
ross.mcfc wrote:
Clowncrete wrote:We should get Alex McCarthy if Pants leaves. Everytime I have seen he has been impressive. He was immense against Liverpool and has been great against us so far. He is also fairly young and is English. Would be a great under-study to Hart.
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Why would he want to come and sit on our bench? To keep Sinclair company so he does not feel lonely when discussing putting money ahead of your career.

The number 2 keeper slot is a hard one to fill. You either have to get an experienced keeper at the end of his career looking for one last pay day or an unknown kid looking for a bit of big club experience like we did with Panto. The problem with taking an unknown is you are shitting bricks when he is called upon in a big game.

Someone like Thomas Sorensen or Jussi Jaaskelainen would be ideal.


If he gets a chance to play for a big club, with a decent salary and a chance to win a couple of cups, he might be tempted. It could even help improve him, since he can get to work with Hart and good coaches. He could be the "unknown kid looking for big club experience".
(Although you can argue that since he plays in the PL, he does get exposure, but I haven't seen him hugely hyped or being connected with any other big club so far.)


He would be the next Ross Turnbull.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby freshie » Wed May 15, 2013 8:26 pm

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I heard this at Wembley via someone who once worked for the club and has very recently left and is not Italian.


Who, Platt?
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby BmoreBlue » Wed May 15, 2013 8:50 pm

Clowncrete wrote:
ross.mcfc wrote:
Clowncrete wrote:We should get Alex McCarthy if Pants leaves. Everytime I have seen he has been impressive. He was immense against Liverpool and has been great against us so far. He is also fairly young and is English. Would be a great under-study to Hart.
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Why would he want to come and sit on our bench? To keep Sinclair company so he does not feel lonely when discussing putting money ahead of your career.

The number 2 keeper slot is a hard one to fill. You either have to get an experienced keeper at the end of his career looking for one last pay day or an unknown kid looking for a bit of big club experience like we did with Panto. The problem with taking an unknown is you are shitting bricks when he is called upon in a big game.

Someone like Thomas Sorensen or Jussi Jaaskelainen would be ideal.


If he gets a chance to play for a big club, with a decent salary and a chance to win a couple of cups, he might be tempted. It could even help improve him, since he can get to work with Hart and good coaches. He could be the "unknown kid looking for big club experience".
(Although you can argue that since he plays in the PL, he does get exposure, but I haven't seen him hugely hyped or being connected with any other big club so far.)


i think you mean he "played" in the PL - he'll be back in the fizzy pop league next season, so maybe he would be interested in a move so he could stay in the PL.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Herb » Wed May 15, 2013 8:57 pm

Clowncrete wrote:
Herb wrote:
Clowncrete wrote:We should get Alex McCarthy if Pants leaves. Everytime I have seen he has been impressive. He was immense against Liverpool and has been great against us so far. He is also fairly young and is English. Would be a great under-study to Hart.


We should hold Costel to his contract but put him out on loan to a premiership side (newly promoted?) to get the exposure and experience he needs - as we did with Joe when Shay was with us.
Can't sell him while the juries out on who's the better of the 2 stoppers, would keep him if he gets the game-time and will, in any event, sell him for more if he proves himself in regular play.

IMHO it's a no brainer really.


But he said he wants to leave.


Yes, I agree that he said he wants to leave but listen up because he added a reason to support his statement. That reason was that he wants to leave because he needs game time - exactly as per Joe Harts noises prior to his loan spell with brum.
Think it over - Joe and Shay were both good keepers and Joe proven himself while on loan. You think we should have sold him? I'll guess not and I'm just applying that logic to the Joe v Costel situation that we now have - I suspect that Costel may prove himself the better of the two because he already has attributes that Joe hasn't developed (fast & accurate distribution / goal area domination etc.) I may be wrong in that but I'd like to see them both playing in the perm. If nothing else it'd at least focus Joe and dear me he needs some focus regardless of his clean sheet record (much to do with sitting behind the best defence in the country IMO). the FA final was a prime example of Joe not having a lot to do because our defence was superior to wigan's - but he was outperformed by the wigan keeper and we lost it. I wouldn't have mentioned it if it were an isolated incident but there have been many more across the season and I think that Joe's drop off in performance lost us at least 10 points this term - 1 at least against the rags at our end. Ergo; Don't sell Costel. :-)
If we had De Gea and the rags had Hart, we'd be top with a 9 point lead and they'd be in 12th place - that's the difference between a 'good' keeper and a 'top class' keeper - 12 places - think about it.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Mase » Wed May 15, 2013 9:21 pm

I'd take Weaver back as number 2.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby simplytolmie » Wed May 15, 2013 9:31 pm

I've never known a top 4 side with as many players up in the air pantillimon, Maicon, Richards, kolo, lescott, Kolarov, Sinclair, Aguero, nasri, dzeko and tevez all rumoured to be unhappy or looking for a way out.

Regardless of who we bring in we need to hold on to the majority of these players and then buy on top of that.

Isco - not seen enough
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Clowncrete » Wed May 15, 2013 9:33 pm

Herb wrote:
Yes, I agree that he said he wants to leave but listen up because he added a reason to support his statement. That reason was that he wants to leave because he needs game time - exactly as per Joe Harts noises prior to his loan spell with brum.
Think it over - Joe and Shay were both good keepers and Joe proven himself while on loan. You think we should have sold him? I'll guess not and I'm just applying that logic to the Joe v Costel situation that we now have - I suspect that Costel may prove himself the better of the two because he already has attributes that Joe hasn't developed (fast & accurate distribution / goal area domination etc.) I may be wrong in that but I'd like to see them both playing in the perm. If nothing else it'd at least focus Joe and dear me he needs some focus regardless of his clean sheet record (much to do with sitting behind the best defence in the country IMO). the FA final was a prime example of Joe not having a lot to do because our defence was superior to wigan's - but he was outperformed by the wigan keeper and we lost it. I wouldn't have mentioned it if it were an isolated incident but there have been many more across the season and I think that Joe's drop off in performance lost us at least 10 points this term - 1 at least against the rags at our end. Ergo; Don't sell Costel. :-)


Okay, I get what you are saying. So who would you suggest as a temporary number 2?

BmoreBlue wrote:i think you mean he "played" in the PL - he'll be back in the fizzy pop league next season, so maybe he would be interested in a move so he could stay in the PL.


That is what I meant. He is a PL level keeper in my eyes.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby xavi6 » Thu May 16, 2013 12:06 am

If you excuse the incorrect info about the release clause figure then this is kind of exciting -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/10060566/Manchester-City-ready-to-sign-Isco-from-Malaga-as-Manuel-Pellegrini-edges-closer-to-Etihad-Stadium-hot-seat.html

Manchester City ready to sign Isco from Malaga as Manuel Pellegrini edges closer to Etihad Stadium hot seat

Manchester City are aiming to complete a £17  million deal for Malaga winger Isco after moving closer to securing Manuel Pellegrini as successor to the sacked Roberto Mancini at the Etihad Stadium.

Although Malaga would not officially confirm reports in Spain on Wednesday that their 59-year-old coach would be free to leave the club following the last game of the season, at Barcelona on June 1, it is understood that the Chilean will not be held to his contract this summer.

With Malaga facing financial difficulties, the Champions League quarter-finalists will reluctantly sanction the sale of Isco, who was revealed as a Manchester City target by Telegraph Sport last November, to any club that triggers the £17  million escape clause in the 21-year-old’s contract.

City sporting director Txiki Begiristain has identified Isco as a target having watched the player in recent weeks, but having earned his first full Spain cap against Uruguay in February the youngster is also attracting the attention of Real Madrid.

Pellegrini’s impending move to Manchester City – the club are hopeful of an agreement being finalised at the beginning of June – is expected to boost the club’s prospects of winning the race for Isco, however.

City, meanwhile, will announce plans on Thursday to increase the capacity of the Etihad Stadium by 6,000 seats.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Saul Goodman » Thu May 16, 2013 12:12 am

The backup keeper bit is a tough one.

All of these keepr names: McCarthy, Sorensen, etc. are all good keepers but none of them will want to be #2, even if it is at a top club. Chances are, they're football players and want to play football.

I think this is the hardest position to recruit for. They have to be skilled but also willing to deputise Hart and hardly play...
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Wooders » Thu May 16, 2013 7:23 am

El habsi is the answer to that
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby simon12 » Thu May 16, 2013 11:04 am

freshie wrote:
simon12 wrote:
I heard this at Wembley via someone who once worked for the club and has very recently left and is not Italian.


Who, Platt?



No mate 1 of the other 3 but he wouldn`t thank me for putting his name up...sacked or not.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Dubciteh » Thu May 16, 2013 12:20 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:The backup keeper bit is a tough one.

All of these keepr names: McCarthy, Sorensen, etc. are all good keepers but none of them will want to be #2, even if it is at a top club. Chances are, they're football players and want to play football.

I think this is the hardest position to recruit for. They have to be skilled but also willing to deputise Hart and hardly play...


Mccarthy and Sorenson have been numbers tows for past few years, Mccarthy only getting a run after Federici got injured.

Anyway Shay Given for me as number two. May aswell be number two for us if no 2 for villa.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 16, 2013 12:27 pm

Mase wrote:I'd take Weaver back as number 2.


He said all the wrong things, Percival.

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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Blue In Bolton » Thu May 16, 2013 12:55 pm

Wooders wrote:El habsi is the answer to that


Can't see it being him mate as he fucked off from notlob to Wigwam for being permanent understudy to Jaaskelainen and as decent a keeper as he is, he is prone to spectacular cock-ups. Would prefer the previously mentioned McCarthy from Reading as I have a feeling that the number two keeper will be getting more game time next season.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 16, 2013 12:57 pm

Blue In Bolton wrote:
Wooders wrote:El habsi is the answer to that


Can't see it being him mate as he fucked off from notlob to Wigwam for being permanent understudy to Jaaskelainen and as decent a keeper as he is, he is prone to spectacular cock-ups. Would prefer the previously mentioned McCarthy from Reading as I have a feeling that the number two keeper will be getting more game time next season.


Why?
Personally I'm COMPLETELY opposed to changing keepers. I think you should have one number one keeper who plays always and every game.
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Saul Goodman » Thu May 16, 2013 3:27 pm

Edit: Oops, this is in Chinner's bollox

Seen on some sites that Pellegrini has a 5 man list for players to sign this summer:
Number 1 is Isco, then Jesus Navas & Geoffrey Kondogbia from Sevilla, Angel Di Maria (ugh),
and.......Reus.

The Daily Star claims that Manuel Pellegrini - whose current club, Malaga, confirmed that they will let him go this summer - has told Etihad chiefs that he wants Malaga star Isco to head that shortlist.
The Sun backs up the report, with both papers that a deal is all but done for the 21-year-old winger, who has also drawn interest from Real Madrid and Barcelona.
As for the other four players? Real Madrid's Angel di Maria, Sevilla duo Jesus Navas and Geoffrey Kondogbia, and Borussia Dortmund’s £32m-rated winger Marco Reus.


Frankly, aside from Isco, I dont really buy it. This guy is being heralded as being able to get the best out of players, why would he come in and drop ~100m euros right away?
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Re: Summer transfer thread!

Postby Wooders » Thu May 16, 2013 4:57 pm

If he's cheap I reckon di Maria would be a good buy

I can't see us signing 5 wingers though - isco and di Maria would be a start, isco and reus however....
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